Re: [lojban-beginners] Ebauche à propose de Galilée/Micro-stub about Galileo Galilei

[.arpis.]

The first thing I noticed is that you used {zoi} incorrectly: you need a word to serve as the terminator (any word; it doesn't matter which); for example, {zoy cmy Galileo Galilei cmy}.

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 6:31 AM, lomicmenes <axelg...@gmail.com> wrote:

coi rodo

j'ai écrit une petite ébauche sur Galilée. Je veux juste savoir quelles fautes j'ai faites. Toute remarque est la bienvenue.

Joie et bonheur.

I wrote a micro-stub about Galileo Galilei. I want to know what I wrote wrong. Any comment is welcome

Enjoy

http://jbo.wikipedia.org/wiki/galileos.galileis

la galile'os. galile'is. no'u la'o zoi. Galileo Galilei zoi. goi ko'a cu termu'eskepre je cmacypre je pijyskepre je kesyskepre

[stika ti]mivcitri

ni'o ko'a jbena li 15 pi'e 2 pi'e 1564 fo la .italias. gi'e mrobi'o li 8 pi'e 1 pi'e 1642

[stika ti]kesyske

ni'o ko'a xagzengau lo pilno befi lenu zgana lo kensa .iseni'ibo ko'a facki vo lo vajni mluni la xupiter .i ko'a darlu lesi'o lo solri cu midju lo munje kei lesi'o lo terdi cu midju lo munje

[stika ti]termu'eske

ko'a xusra ledu'u lo kamsutra pe lo farlu dacti na lacri le junta

mu'o mi'e lomicmenes

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mu'o mi'e .arpis.

[ianek]

Doesn't matter which, but should be a Lojban word, wich "cmy" isn't.

mu'o mi'e ianek

On 10 Gru, 17:05, ".arpis." <rpglover64+jbo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The first thing I noticed is that you used {zoi} incorrectly: you need a
> word to serve as the terminator (any word; it doesn't matter which); for
> example, {zoy cmy Galileo Galilei cmy}.
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> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 6:31 AM, lomicmenes <axelgou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > coi rodo
>
> > j'ai écrit une petite ébauche sur Galilée. Je veux juste savoir quelles
> > fautes j'ai faites. Toute remarque est la bienvenue.
> > Joie et bonheur.
>
> > I wrote a micro-stub about Galileo Galilei. I want to know what I wrote
> > wrong. Any comment is welcome
> > Enjoy
>
> >http://jbo.wikipedia.org/wiki/galileos.galileis
>

> > la *galile'os. galile'is.* no'u la'o zoi. Galileo Galilei zoi. goi ko'a
> > cu termu'eskepre <http://jbo.wikipedia.org/wiki/termu%27eskepre> je
> > cmacypre <http://jbo.wikipedia.org/wiki/cmacypre> je pijyskepre<http://jbo.wikipedia.org/wiki/pijyskepre>
> >  je kesyskepre <http://jbo.wikipedia.org/wiki/kesyskepre>
> >  [stika ti<http://jbo.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=galileos.galileis&action=e...>
> > ]mivcitri
>
> > ni'o ko'a jbena li 15 pi'e 2 pi'e 1564 fo la .italias.<http://jbo.wikipedia.org/wiki/.italias.> gi'e

> > mrobi'o li 8 pi'e 1 pi'e 1642

> >  [stika ti<http://jbo.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=galileos.galileis&action=e...>

> > ]kesyske
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> > ni'o ko'a xagzengau lo pilno befi lenu zgana lo kensa .iseni'ibo ko'a

> > facki vo lo vajni mluni la xupiter <http://jbo.wikipedia.org/wiki/xupiter> .i

> > ko'a darlu lesi'o lo solri cu midju lo munje kei lesi'o lo terdi cu midju
> > lo munje

> >  [stika ti<http://jbo.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=galileos.galileis&action=e...>

[Pierre Abbat]

On Monday, December 10, 2012 11:05:42 .arpis. wrote:
> The first thing I noticed is that you used {zoi} incorrectly: you need a
> word to serve as the terminator (any word; it doesn't matter which); for
> example, {zoy cmy Galileo Galilei cmy}.

I saw "la'o zoi. Galileo Galilei zoi.", in which "zoi" is used correctly, as
the terminator. "la'o" and "zoi" are in the same selma'o' and it's not
uncommon to use "zoi" as the terminator.

The dates, though, I'd write the other way around, if they're all numbers.
Numbers connected with "pi'e" should be ordered most significant first, if one
is more significant than another; also this agrees with the ISO format. ISO
8601 was apparently issued shortly after the fork of Lojban, so I don't blame
Bob or John for not knowing about it; but it's now in common use on
international Web pages, including Wikipedia. The order is day-month-year when
the month is spelled out: le 8moi be le .ianvari be le 1642moi.

The veldetri should be given; the change from Julian to Gregorian started
during his lifetime. See https://jbo.wikipedia.org/wiki/latmo_veldetri .

"mivcitri" needs an interfix. I'd leave the apostrophes out of his name.

At first I thought you meant Galilee in Israel (the end of the subject line
didn't appear until I clicked on the message). :)

Pierre
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[Alex Rozenshteyn]

> Doesn't matter which, but should be a Lojban word, wich "cmy" isn't.

> I saw "la'o zoi. Galileo Galilei zoi.", in which "zoi" is used correctly, as the terminator. "la'o" and "zoi" are in the same selma'o' and it's not uncommon to use "zoi" as the terminator.

This is why I shouldn't try to contribute before fully waking up.

Sorry for any confusion that may have resulted.

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[lomicmenes]

I made the fixes.

Now I wonder if ni'o ko'a jbena li 1564 pi'e 2 pi'e 15 boi bevede'i lo latmo veldetri pe la iulius.kaisar. is correct. Does boi correctly end the number but not the sumti ?

Thank you for your answers.

I'll remember for the dates. By the way I wrote a lot of them wrong already...

mu'o mi'e la lomicmenes

[Pierre Abbat]

On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:56:42 lomicmenes wrote:
> I made the fixes.
> Now I wonder if ni'o ko'a jbena li 1564 pi'e 2 pi'e 15 boi bevede'i lo
> latmo veldetri pe la iulius.kaisar. is correct. Does boi correctly end the
> number but not the sumti ?

That should be "pe", not "be". "be" links an argument to a selbri, and "li
1564-02-15" does not contain a selbri.

"boi" is unnecessary (but not wrong) here. It's needed in, for instance,
"abuboi za'ure'u" (she again - "abu" refers to Alice), because "za'u" is a
number. "vede'i" is not a number, so it's not needed.

Pierre
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La sal en el mar es más que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.

[lomicmenes]

Ok. Thank you for your answers.

Merci pour vos réponses.