pluja-sampu

[A J]

Saluton,

 Mi dume lernas gismu-ojn kaj trovas ke du gismu SAMPU kaj PLUJA havas diversan kvanton de sumti-lokoj.

Ŝajnas al mi ke la du vortoj estas antonimoj unu de la alia. Ĉu eble  unu sumti-loko estas superflua aŭ unu nenecesa?

julin

[MorphemeAddict]

Jes, la du gismuoj estas tre similaj unu al la alia. Sed tio ne suficxe gravas por sxangxi la difinojn, kiuj estas cxiukaze nesxangxeblaj. 

(Yes, the two gismu "sampu" and "pluja" are very similar to each other. But that is not sufficiently important to change the definitions, which are in any case baselined.)

stevo

2012/5/10 A J <sei...@mail.ru>

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[Jonathan Jones]

What language is that, out of curiosity?

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

[MorphemeAddict]

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Jonathan Jones <eye...@gmail.com> wrote:

What language is that, out of curiosity?

It's Esperanto. 

stevo

[Michael Turniansky]

  I knew the language was Esperanto, but I am curious what the original question was.  Because your answer appears to imply that pluja and sampu are near synonyms, when in fact they are antonyms.  Or was the question why one is not simply tol- the other?

              --gejyspa

[Miles Forster]

The question was: "I just found out that the two gismu {sampu} and {pluja} have a different number of sumit places. To me it seems that these two words are antonyms, so could it be that one place is superfluous (in one definition) or that one is lacking (in the other definition)?"

—mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

-- 
.i da xamgu ganse fi no na'ebo lo risna 
.i lo vajrai cu nonselji'u lo kanla

[Michael Turniansky]

ki'e

[ianek]

This is the place to gather such issues:
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-editpage.php?page=BPFK+Section%3A+gismu+Issues

I've just added the pluja-sampu issue. If you know about some issue
not listed there, please add it.

mu'o mi'e ianek

On May 11, 5:54 pm, Michael Turniansky <mturnian...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ki'e
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> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Miles Forster <m...@plasmatix.com> wrote:
> >  The question was: "I just found out that the two gismu {sampu} and
> > {pluja} have a different number of sumit places. To me it seems that these
> > two words are antonyms, so could it be that one place is superfluous (in
> > one definition) or that one is lacking (in the other definition)?"
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> > —mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
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> > Am 11.05.2012 17:40, schrieb Michael Turniansky:
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> >   I knew the language was Esperanto, but I am curious what the original
> > question was.  Because your answer appears to imply that pluja and sampu
> > are near synonyms, when in fact they are antonyms.  Or was the question why
> > one is not simply tol- the other?
> >               --gejyspa
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> > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:29 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytl...@gmail.com>wrote:

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> >>  On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeo...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> >>> What language is that, out of curiosity?
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> >>  It's Esperanto.
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> >>  stevo
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[Lindar]

I think I remember Robin saying something about removing those stupid "by standard" and "in epistemology" places after CLL1.1.

[ianek]

I think it's better to have to many issues on that list than to few.
Also, sorry about posting link to the edit form instead of the proper
page:
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+gismu+Issues

[ianek]

s/to/too/g
aargh.

[Jacob Errington]

Isn't it Esperanto?