What is the cmavo for converting brivla into an attitudinal?

[gleki]

Just a short question, wWhat is the cmavo for converting brivla into an attitudinal?

Loglan used to do that using "soi".

[Miles Forster]

You can use {sei} for that.

.i lo cinki �sei mi se rigni� cu zvati
"eww there is an insect!

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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[tijlan]

A couple of experimental options from jbovlaste:

{ze'ei} creates a nonce word by joining one that defines its meaning
on the left and another that defines its grammar on the right.
http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/ze%27ei
ex.
rigni ze'ei ge'e = ewww (a valsi that means {rigni} and has the
grammar of {ge'e})
papsurla ze'ei co'o = R.I.P. ({co'o} adds nothing to the meaning of
this nonce valsi, but it's a nice hint)

{ki'ai} creates a nonce UI from cmevla or zoi-quote but not brivla.
http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/ki%27ai
ex.
ki'ai .zing. = Zing!
ki'ai .zanrur. = Defecately!
ki'ai zoi zoi 401KO'd zoi sai = totally got 401KO'd

mu'o

[ianek]

{ki'ai} is of selma'o COI, so it's grammatical for it to convert brivla (or even more complex selbri). So maybe the definition is misleading?

mu'o mi'e ianek

[tijlan]

On 8 May 2012 20:43, ianek <jan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> {ki'ai} is of selma'o COI, so it's grammatical for it to convert brivla (or
> even more complex selbri). So maybe the definition is misleading?

Yes, it's classified as COI, while the actual definition says
"attitudinal" (UI), which is usually differentiated from "vocative"
(COI).

Yes, a COI can grab a sumti or (if any) its content selbri / cmevla
(without the gadri) to specify the referent of {do} that's implied by
the meaning of the COI cmavo itself. But is that really a
'conversion'?

mu'o