I vote YES.Salut to Dr. Joe Buchman!~David PrattFreedom, Nothing More, Nothing Less~David Pratt DemarestLNC Region 6 RepresentativeLSLA Vice-ChairLPNE SCC SecretaryLPRC Board MemberLPRC Nebraska State CoordinatorRoads to Freedom Foundation, Founder
On Jul 15, 2017 3:16 AM, "Alicia Mattson" <agma...@gmail.com> wrote:
-AliciaWe have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 25, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Bilyeu, Demarest, Starchild
Motion: for the LNC to contribute $5,000 to support the Congressional campaign of Joe Buchman (Utah)
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I vote no.
Dear colleagues:
I hope all is well with you. I am writing in my capacity as Region 5 representative to vote "nay" on the motion.
As always, thanks for your work for liberty.
Take care,
Jim
James W. Lark, III
Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering
Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society
Affiliated Faculty, Dept. of Statistics
University of Virginia
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
University of Virginia
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
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On 7/15/2017 4:15 AM, Alicia Mattson wrote:
-AliciaWe have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 25, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Bilyeu, Demarest, Starchild
Motion: for the LNC to contribute $5,000 to support the Congressional campaign of Joe Buchman (Utah)
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I hope I am proved wrong but it looks like we have a vicious circle – Continuing ‘No’ votes on candidate support motions until we develop guidelines and no appointees or volunteers so far to develop guidelines.
Am I missing something here?
I am sure there are more qualified LNC and LP members but I will volunteer to be part of an effort to develop candidate support guidelines. We will need a strong leader to meet this challenge. Is this a matter of Nick either appointing a committee leader and supporting committee members or soliciting volunteers? I suggest that both LNC and non-LNC members be part of this initiative. Any other volunteers? Might be a good opportunity for new or aspiring LNC members.
Thoughts?
~David
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~David Pratt Demarest
LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)
LSLA Vice-Chair
LPNE State Central Committee, Secretary
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From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-busine...@hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of Brett Bittner
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TL; DR - I vote nay on email ballot 2017-16.
My thoughts: I find myself in the same situation as I did when the Wicks motion was presented. At that time, promises to come up with a procedure we made (and we even delayed considering a request from Senator Ebke for that procedure to be in place), yet action has yet to materialize. I believe that our first duty is to win elections, and without a process to vet funding requests, we are ill-equipped to determine which campaigns should receive our limited funds.
As both Arvin and Sam have outlined my concerns, I don't feel the need to reiterate them.
I appreciate Dr. Buchman's many years of service to the Party and as an activist, and I think very highly of him. I also enjoyed seeing his debate performance online, and I think he did a tremendous job of offering a different perspective in that debate.
Unfortunately, I believe that we will never create a process for these type of requests if we continue to fulfill them in the ad hoc manner from our limited funds. As such, I must cast a nay vote. I will continue to do so for all candidate funding requests until we've established a process to vet such requests.
Brett C. Bittner
Region 3 Representative
Libertarian National Committee
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What committee would be charged with coming up with these guidelines? Another committee? I'm pretty busy so I don't think I want to commit to direct action on another committee. But as a former campaign manager, and former candidate, I would like to give some suggested guidelines or watermarks.ken
Sam,
I suggest that the motion include a committee selection method (appointed and/or volunteer). Since this will obviously be an important committee of interest to us all, I suggest that the motion specify a minimum of three LNC members and two non-LNC members [substitute your own numbers].
Thoughts?
~David
2018 Omaha Roads to Liberty Un-Convention
Freedom, Nothing More, Nothing Less
~David Pratt Demarest
LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)
LSLA Vice-Chair
LPNE State Central Committee, Secretary
Cell: 402-981-6469
Home: 402-493-0873
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Yes, I'm working on a motion to create a Candidate Support Committee to be tasked with first
I vote YES.Salut to Dr. Joe Buchman!
~David Pratt
Freedom, Nothing More, Nothing Less~David Pratt DemarestLNC Region 6 Representative
LSLA Vice-ChairLPNE SCC SecretaryLPRC Board MemberLPRC Nebraska State CoordinatorRoads to Freedom Foundation, Founder
On Jul 15, 2017 3:16 AM, "Alicia Mattson" <agma...@gmail.com> wrote:_______________________________________________-AliciaWe have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 25, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
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I have already weighed in but do want to put this here for ease of those reading at the the list. I fully understand why some are voting against this and agree that there needs to be a system in place for this. However, I do NOT feel that we should punish candidates for this committees failure to have already addressed this lack. If we agree that a system needs to be implemented and we KNOW that candidates will continue to reach out, we should in my opinion, address that lack of system in a far more timely manner so that we do not continue to face these types of "dilemmas" and in the mean time, we should not hamper candidates for our failure to do so.I vote Yes
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynan...@gmail.com> wrote:
I concur with Jeff wholeheartedly.-Caryn Ann
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Alicia Mattson <agma...@gmail.com> wrote:
Passing along Jeff Hewitt's vote below. -Alicia
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From Jeff Hewitt hdigger2004 at aol.com
Wed Jul 19 16:52:09 CDT 2017
I vote YES! on donating $5000 to Joe Buchman. We are a national political party. I took the time to watch the debate in Provo and I realized we do have smart, normal, libertarian candidates that kick ass when standing on a stage with mere mortals. If for no other reason, let's show him the love he deserves so he will step from behind the lines and continue as a warrior in the limelight now and in the future. Furthermore, if and when he does get elected I believe he could serve his constituents well. Jeff Hewitt Region 4 RepresentativeSent from AOL Mobile Mail
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-AliciaWe have an electronic mail ballot.
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--In Liberty,Caryn Ann HarlosRegion 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.orgCommunications Director, Libertarian Party of ColoradoColorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical CaucusChair, LP Historical Preservation CommitteeA haiku to the Statement of Principles:We defend your rightsAnd oppose the use of forceTaxation is theft
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I change my vote to yes.I was too hasty in casting my vote before watching Buchman's debate and talking to him about his campaign.I will point out that since Dr. Buchman is in a federal race, the LNC may solicit funds for his race. I have no problem with staff sending an e-mail informing members about his campaign and directing how to donate to his campaign.Tim Hagan
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I vote no.Tim Hagan
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_______________________________________________-AliciaWe have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 25, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Bilyeu, Demarest, Starchild
Motion: for the LNC to contribute $5,000 to support the Congressional campaign of Joe Buchman (Utah)
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