possible feature: Add column to each pane with "plus" or "minus" sign

[pieter]

The UI would benefit from a column in each pane where you can select and unselect just like in Dolphin. This would also make Krusader even more KDE-isch. I attached a self-made mockup  with a detail-view in this post.

I'm a great fan of Krusader b.t.w.

Pieter

[afro...@gmail.com]

Why add another column when Ctrl-->left-click already does this and keeps each
choice highlighted? IMO it will just add more bloat, when it works well now.


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[pieter]

Thank you for your quick reaction.
You ask "Why add another column..." Well I have two reasons to suggest that:
- krusader would fit better into kde and
- I am allways searching for a nice selection policy in Krusader. To be honest I haven't found one yet. In my opinion this would be a straight forward solution.

Op donderdag 10 januari 2013 13:30:44 UTC+1 schreef swammi het volgende:

[Dirk Eschler]

Am Donnerstag, 10. Januar 2013, 13:30:44 schrieb afro...@gmail.com:
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:20:36 -0800 (PST)
>
> pieter <pieterkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The UI would benefit from a column in each pane where you can select and
> > unselect just like in Dolphin. This would also make Krusader even more
> > KDE-isch. I attached a self-made mockup with a detail-view in this post.
> >
> > I'm a great fan of Krusader b.t.w.
> >
> > Pieter
>
> Why add another column when Ctrl-->left-click already does this and keeps
> each choice highlighted? IMO it will just add more bloat, when it works
> well now.

In addition Krusader has a highly customizable selection model. I for one use
right-click or space/alt+- only to change the selection. Leftclick just
changes the focus. I remember bugging Heiner really hard for this feature back
in the days. :-)

Best Regards,
Dirk

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[pieter]

I realized that my underlying issue is that it would be smart to move away from the keyboard as mean of control. When Krusader wants to stay in the game, there should at least be a possibility to (un)select files without using the keyboard.
There will be more and more computers without keyboard.
A column with plus and minus signs to my opinion would be an elegant option.
Also because you could toggle it if you don't like it.

Op donderdag 10 januari 2013 13:43:05 UTC+1 schreef Dirk Eschler het volgende:

[Dirk Eschler]

> Am Donnerstag, 10. Januar 2013, 09:08:42 schrieb pieter:
>
> I realized that my underlying issue is that it would be smart to move away
> from the keyboard as mean of control. When Krusader wants to stay in the
> game, there should at least be a possibility to (un)select files without
> using the keyboard. There will be more and more computers without keyboard.
> A column with plus and minus signs to my opinion would be an elegant option.
> Also because you could toggle it if you don't like it.

So your request is about touch devices, why don't you say that? :)
In such a context the column makes sense i guess. It's hardly enough to make
Krusader very usable with touch though. The entire ui and workflow is taylored
towards traditional desktop and console use.

[Richard]

Windows Commander works well enough on Android.

That said, I believe the future will be towards Android and such. 

Traditional desktop/console will probably not die in your lifetime, 

but everyday, and in every way, smartphones and tablets 

are are getting better and better. (And more capable.  :)

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[jan]

Hi,

apart from what was said already, I have to add that I started using
Krusader BECAUSE everything can be done with keyboard.
While I have nothing against adding more mouse functionality, I don't
think I will be the one implementing it.

Jan

On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:08:42 -0800 (PST)
pieter <pieterkr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I realized that my underlying issue is that it would be smart to move
> away from the keyboard as mean of control. When Krusader wants to
> stay in the game, there should at least be a possibility to
> (un)select files without using the keyboard.
> There will be more and more computers without keyboard.
> A column with plus and minus signs to my opinion would be an elegant
> option.
> Also because you could toggle it if you don't like it.
>
> Op donderdag 10 januari 2013 13:43:05 UTC+1 schreef Dirk Eschler het
> volgende:
> >
> > Am Donnerstag, 10. Januar 2013, 13:30:44 schrieb

> > afro...@gmail.com<javascript:>:

> > Dirk Eschler <esc...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
> >
>

[Dirk Eschler]

Am Donnerstag, 10. Januar 2013, 17:32:44 schrieb Richard:
> Windows Commander works well enough on Android.

It does! But the user interface is _completely_ different from the desktop
version. And i think that Ghisler did many things right. Total Commander for
Android is basically a different program. Image how great a 1:1 port of the
interface had looked on a smartphone. :)

And that was my whole point, classic desktop interfaces optimized for mouse
and keyboard are rarely easy to adopt to a touch device. Especially to
something with a small display like a smartphone has. The whole interaction is
different.

> That said, I believe the future will be towards Android and such.
> Traditional desktop/console will probably not die in your lifetime,
> but everyday, and in every way, smartphones and tablets
> are are getting better and better. (And more capable. :)

To get back to your mockup. What's wrong with the way it is implemented in
Dolphin? I liked how the +/- icons overlayed the file icon on hover - no waste
of space.

Best Regards,
Dirk

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[pieter]

There is nothing wrong with the way Dolphin works with the overlays. And it can do so because within each icon there is vertical space. This is different in Krusader. In Krusader there is horizontal space. That is why I made that choice.

Op zondag 13 januari 2013 22:41:24 UTC+1 schreef Dirk Eschler het volgende: