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Juneau Smog

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Mar 10, 2012, 3:17:26 AM3/10/12
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Here’s the rundown on the monthly employment report from the Department of Labor.

-647,000…the number of jobs created lost in state and local governments since August 2008.

-22,000…the average number of public sector jobs created lost each month in 2011, thanks to ongoing spending cuts at all levels of government which in turn continue to drive layoffs at the state and local level.

-14,000…the number of construction industry jobs created lost last month, something which could have been avoided and turned into a net positive for the economy if Republicans had not blocked the infrastructure investments in the American Jobs Act.

-6,000…the number of public sector jobs created lost last month, thanks to ongoing spending cuts at all levels of government which in turn continue to drive layoffs at the state and local level.

3…the number of consecutive months with more than 200,000 jobs gained.

24…the number of consecutive months of private sector job growth.

31,000…the number of manufacturing jobs created last month.

61,000…the additional jobs created during the months of December and January, according to revised figures released today.

61,000…the number of new health care jobs created last month.

227,000…the number of net new jobs created in February.

233,000…the number of private sector jobs created in February.

245,000…the average number of new jobs created over the past three months.

444,000…the number of jobs in durable goods manufacturing added since January 2010.

Obama's socialistic job-killing economic policies have helped create 1.5 million jobs in the last 6 months.

GOP Austerity in Action: Public Sector Job Losses Drag Down the Recovery

While Republicans are calling for tens or even hundreds of thousands more public sector workers to be axed, it’s clear that the public sector has already severely contracted even as the private sector recovers. Check out this chart (red is public sector employment, blue is private sector employment):

If Republicans had not blocked further aid to state and local governments and insisted on deep spending cuts, it’s almost certain that hundreds of thousands of public workers would still be gainfully employed and helping to fuel a strong recovery thanks to their own personal consumption. Instead, the 647,000 public sector jobs lost since August 2008 continue to provide a drag on the overall economy, in addition of course to creating untold hardship for those who lost their jobs.

(In case you’re wondering, that spike in public sector employment was due to the hiring of temporary census workers in 2010.)

Opposite Day: GOP Uses Improving Economy to Attack the President

When the news on jobs day was less encouraging than in recent months, the GOP had a singular strategy: blame Obama. And now in the face of months of solid job growth, the GOP’s strategy: ignore reality, find a way to blame Obama. Here’s a sample of some of the reactions to today’s good news on the economy:

Mitt Romney: “This president has failed.”

Speaker Boehner: “It is a testament to the hard work and entrepreneurship of the American people that they are creating any jobs in the midst of the onslaught of anti-business policies coming from this administration.”

RNC Chair Rience Priebus: “Today’s jobs report is yet another reminder that far too many Americans are out of work, and the situation is clearly not improving.”


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Kyle Curtis

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Mar 10, 2012, 11:37:45 AM3/10/12
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Republicans, denial aint just a river in Egypt.

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Brent Wolters

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Mar 10, 2012, 2:42:30 PM3/10/12
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I'm guessing that river flows both ways, Kyle...
 
 
 
Here's your change!
 
SOME WILL APPRECIATE THIS AND SOME WILL NOT.
HOWEVER, ALL OF IT IS TRUE.
 
After two years of Obama ....
Here's your change!
January 2009
TODAY
% chg
Source
Avg. Retail price/gallon gas in U.S.
$1.83
$3.77
99%
1
Crude oil, European Brent (barrel)
$43.48
$99.02
127.7%
2
Crude oil, West TX Inter. (barrel)
$38.74
$91.38
135.9%
2
Gold: London (per troy oz.)
$853.25
$1,369.50
60.5%
2
Corn, No.2 yellow, Central IL
$3.56
$6.33
78.1%
2
Soybeans, No. 1 yellow, IL
$9.66
$13..75
42.3%
2
Sugar, cane, raw, world, lb. Fob
$13.37
$35..39
164.7%
2
Unemployment rate, non-farm, overall
7.6%
9.4%
23.7%
3
Unemployment rate, blacks
12.6%
15.8%
25.4%
3
Number of unemployed
11,616,000
14,485,000
24.7%
3
Number of fed. Employees
2,779,000
2,840,000
2.2%
3
Real median household income
$50,112
$49,777
-0.7%
4
Number of food stamp recipients
31,983,716
43,200,878
35.1%
5
Number of unemployment benefit recipients
7,526,598
9,193,838
22.2%
6
Number of long-term unemployed
2,600,000
6,400,000
146.2%
3
Poverty rate, individuals
13.2%
14.3%
8.3%
4
People in poverty in U.S.
39,800,000
43,600,000
9.5%
4
U.S.. Rank in Economic Freedom World Rankings
5
9
n/a
10
Present Situation Index
29.9
23.5
-21.4%
11
Failed banks
140
164
17.1%
12
U.S.. Dollar versus Japanese yen exchange rate
89.76
82.03
-8.6%
2
U.S.. Money supply, M1, in billions
1,575.1
1,865.7
18.4%
13
U.S.. Money supply, M2, in billions
8,310.9
8,852.3
6.5%
13
National debt, in trillions
$10.627
$14.052
32.2%
14
 
Just take this last item: In the last two years we have accumulated national debt at a rate more than 27 times as fast as during the rest of our entire nation's history.
 
Sources:
(1) U.S. Energy Information Administration;
(2) Wall Street Journal;
(3) Bureau of Labor Statistics;
(4) Census Bureau;
(5) USDA;
(6) U.S. Dept. Of Labor;
(7) FHFA;
(8) Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller;
(9) RealtyTrac;
(10) Heritage Foundation and WSJ;
(11) The Conference Board;
(12) FDIC;
(13) Federal Reserve;
(14) U.S. Treasury
 
So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all this in 29 months -- so you'll have one year and five months to come up with an answer. Every statement in this email is factual and directly attributable to Barrack Hussein Obama. Every bumble is a matter of record and completely verifiable.

Kyle Curtis

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Mar 10, 2012, 2:53:47 PM3/10/12
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Brent, the days of the hate talk of a small percentage of right-wing nut jobs dominating the nation's airwaves has run its course.  The sooner you accept that, the better.  Especially as advertisers are now telling stations to not have their products linked with any shows that might have "controversial content"--and have specifically cited Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, etc.  I'm interested in how you right-wingers are going to bend over backwards to justify how 98% of talk radio needs to be hate-talk that is 100% advertiser-free, which completely flies in the face of your "magic of the market" meme.

As for your list of statistics, I can only imagine how explosive the economic recovery under Obama would be if the Republicans didn't insist on public sector layoffs.  And what is the national debt accumulated under Obama composed of?  His stimulus package, which is less than $800 billion?  Or the as-of-yet unpaid for health care reform?  Or is it paying off the unpaid wars, Medicare expansion, and loss of revenues that occurred due to the economic implosion that occurred under the watch of his predecessor?  I know you guys hate paying off your bills--as in the threat by Republicans to not raise the debt limit to pay off spending that has all ready occurred--but it sure would be nice if you would perhaps blame those who irresponsibly rang up the bills as opposed to those who are being responsible and paying them off.

I find it interesting that you didn't even bother to argue my point that the only way to not pay out the nose at the pump is to no longer have our economy enslaved to the oil companies.  Its pretty hard to argue against facts, I know....

Brent Wolters

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Mar 20, 2012, 11:12:02 PM3/20/12
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Alex Romero

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Mar 20, 2012, 11:21:49 PM3/20/12
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those are just the ones that can read....Brent, poll forgot all those Reps with cinder blocks holding up their homes.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Brent Wolters <brenton...@comcast.net> wrote:

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Kyle Curtis

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Mar 20, 2012, 11:47:12 PM3/20/12
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Yeah, I read the first paragraph.  I had to double-check and make sure I wasn't reading something from 2010.  Thanks for the *news.*

I heard something today on the radio that basically sums up Tea Party supporters.  They've never struggled, they've reaped every benefit due to their position in society, they've never served in the armed forces, they've never relied on government support, they've never worked a $5/ hour job.  And they wouldn't think twice to metaphorically push others off the road and into the ditch.

But they'll be damned if their gonna go down there with 'em.

Brent, I've noticed a lack of conservatives regarding the cold-blooded murder of Trayvan Martin from "pro-life" conservatives.  Too bad he was only a 17-year old unarmed black kid and not, you know, a fetus.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Brent Wolters <brenton...@comcast.net> wrote:

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Alex Romero

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Mar 20, 2012, 11:51:38 PM3/20/12
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not all of um never worked a $5 hour job Kyle...from what i saw written on a lot of those signs during the HC protest, most of those Tea Party folks probably can't fill out an application let alone this complicated poll.

Brent Wolters

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Mar 21, 2012, 10:46:28 AM3/21/12
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The death of Trayvan Martin is unfortunate.  Too bad he was unarmed because dialing 911 doesn't appear to be a very good defense.

Brent Wolters

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Mar 21, 2012, 11:00:19 AM3/21/12
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No need to get ugly...
 
Oops.  Too late.

Alex Romero

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Mar 21, 2012, 12:16:51 PM3/21/12
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wait wait...when does a wealthy Tea Partier admit they are dumb?....look at Dubya, he is rich and clueless as to how stupid he is. Poll us Libs and we can tell you how stupid they are and prove it.

Don't blame me Tubby, I had lunch with Captain Obvious, and we pointed out how obviously stupid Tea Party members actually are. We remembered how those liberal journalists would go in and interview folks that had no real idea why they were there other than they heard the word 'socialist' at church. We also remembered how obvious it was that these folks lacked certain grammar skills, apparent in their elaborate sign making. All this was Obvious and not anywhere near your poll....Buh Bye

Kyle Curtis

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Mar 21, 2012, 2:43:44 PM3/21/12
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Too bad Trayvan wasn't armed so he could shoot that crazy armed guy who was following and chasing him.

Daniel Curtis

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Mar 21, 2012, 3:45:36 PM3/21/12
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did you hear the audio from the guy calling 911 : uh yeah, there's a kid walking around acting funny, like he's up to no good. I think he's on drugs

and then when you see the picture of the guy...are we then to assume he's a child molester just because he looks like one?

Brent Wolters

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Mar 21, 2012, 5:47:44 PM3/21/12
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Wow.  We actually agree on something, Kyle.  FTTY
 
I wonder who got the skittles.

Daniel Curtis

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Mar 21, 2012, 6:06:02 PM3/21/12
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too bad ya'll can't agree on not making light of wrongly murdered, innocent people. 

*actual people.

Alex Romero

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Mar 21, 2012, 6:22:18 PM3/21/12
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arming the innocent kid would have sealed the deal on the racist murderer getting away with it...i have to disagree, arming that young man would have surely been a bad thing to do.

With that said, what about the "equal or lesser force" rule when it comes to self defense? I realize Florida has different rules, but shooting a an unarmed kid, and claiming self defense is just not jiving with anyone right now....i don't care if he was a rent a cop.

Brent Wolters

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Mar 21, 2012, 6:56:49 PM3/21/12
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So Alex thinks that black kids should be killed and not allowed to defend themselves.
 
Alex does your rule only apply to black kids or does it also apply to Asians and Hispanics?

Alex Romero

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Mar 21, 2012, 7:03:15 PM3/21/12
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I think a 17 year old with a handgun is a bad idea...did i say black kid?...wait let me put in in really bold letters like kindergarten...


"arming the innocent kid would have sealed the deal on the racist murderer getting away with it"

i don't see any reference for race at all there....but we know you only see them colors now don't cha Brent?

FACT: Rent a cop shot this unarmed kid and walked out of the police station.
FACT: Had he been armed he would have been given a medal on his way out.

There is no need to arm yourself against people targeting youth based on their race. I grew up where every black kid i knew was packing heat...they died too, just gave the shooters a reason to walk away. Black kids that want to defend yourself against racist murderers with badges have a tough time, and arming them is not the answer.

Kyle Curtis

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Mar 21, 2012, 7:06:42 PM3/21/12
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The black kid did defend himself.  And got shot down in cold blood.

Alex is just pointing out that if the black kid was armed, you'd be on here saying he deserved it and that defense that Zimmerman is using wouldn't be exposed for being as full of shit as it clearly is.

Once again, Brent displays his ignorance for all to see.

Brent Wolters

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Mar 21, 2012, 7:37:16 PM3/21/12
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Somehow I'm guessing that Trayvan would rather be alive despite your stupid assertions that I'd be defending either one of these Floridians.

Alex Romero

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Mar 21, 2012, 7:41:11 PM3/21/12
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No Brent, i disagree with Kyle, you wouldn't be defending either of these US Citizens, it wouldn't have ever made the news if he was armed so you would never have seen it in your church newsletter, it woulda just been another day in Florida...at least the real threat is hopefully going off the streets...that would be the guy with the gun....not the unarmed kid. I hate to break it to your NRA ass but, arming that kid wouldn't have saved his life.

Anyone know if this douchbag was part of the NRA...my guess is he was, yet another armed douche off the streets.

Alex Romero

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Mar 21, 2012, 8:14:54 PM3/21/12
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Hey Captain Obvious called and wanted me to pass this on to you Brent:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jgG2mmvhU3MZ6o4GAE9HuW6K0FkA?docId=CNG.3563c0c8bcb14d5370bbd418163e59e6.b81

Poll says most Americans want churches out of politics

(AFP) – 2 hours ago 

WASHINGTON — Fifty-four percent of Americans think churches should steer clear of politics, according to a Pew Research Center poll announced Wednesday during a presidential campaign tinged with faith issues.

Pew said it was the third consecutive poll in four years to reveal that Americans who favor churches speaking out on political and social issues are outnumbered by those who believe they should not.

Of the 1,503 adults it surveyed by telephone on March 7-11, Pew said 40 percent believed churches and other houses of worship "should ... express their views on day-to-day social and political questions."

Sixty percent of Catholic respondents said the church should keep out of political issues, according to Pew's findings.

Early this month, New York's Cardinal Timothy Dolan, leader of the increasingly outspoken US Conference of Catholic Bishops, said the church was called upon to be "very active, very informed and very involved in politics."

With President Barack Obama up for re-election in November, the Catholic church is fiercely opposing his proposal for all employee health plans -- including those at religious-affiliated institutions, such as hospitals -- to cover the cost of contraceptives.

The Pew survey also found that 38 percent of Americans say there has been "too much expression of religious faith and prayer by political leaders." Another 30 percent said there has been too little.

"The percentage saying there is too much expression ... has increased across party lines, but this view remains far more widespread among Democrats than Republicans," said Pew in a summary of its findings.

Pew, which posted full details of its research on its website (www.pewforum.org), said its survey had a margin of error of plus or minus three percentage points.


Juneau Smog

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Mar 22, 2012, 12:37:48 AM3/22/12
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Typical. Zimmerman is the victim and Tayvon is totally guilty... of being black. If only he were armed then the confrontation would have truly been a  polite society situation. Just like if you want to live in a non-rapist society, then women shouldn't dress like they are asking for it all the time. 

Juneau Smog

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Mar 22, 2012, 12:43:32 AM3/22/12
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Let's just review some of the details about Zimmerman from the Trayvon Martin tragedy shall we?
  • He followed Trayvon because Trayvon was black.
  • He called the police because Trayvon was black.
  • He jumped out of his car because Trayvon was black.
  • He got into a physical altercation with Trayvon because Trayvon was black.
  • He shot Trayvon in the chest because Trayvon was black.
  • He told police afterwards that he felt threatened by Trayvon because Trayvon was black.
  • The veracity of George Michael Zimmerman’s account of how he came to murder Trayvon Martin wasn’t questioned by police because George Michael Zimmerman wasn’t black.
That about covers everything.

Brent Wolters

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Mar 22, 2012, 10:50:54 AM3/22/12
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While the black community is angry about Zimmerman, perhaps they need to yank a little harder at pulling the following plank out of their own eye first...
 
"Blacks are 13% of the population, but commit 51.2% of the murders."
 

Kyle Curtis

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Mar 22, 2012, 11:11:15 AM3/22/12
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Why do you think that is, Brent?

Brent Wolters <brenton...@comcast.net> wrote:

>While the black community is angry about Zimmerman, perhaps they need to
>yank a little harder at pulling the following plank out of their own eye
>first...
>
>"Blacks are 13% of the population, but commit 51.2% of the murders."
>
>http://www.hhscenter.org/bonbstat.html
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>Let's just review some of the details about Zimmerman from the Trayvon
>Martin tragedy shall we?
>

>* He followed Trayvon because Trayvon was black.
>
>* He called the police because Trayvon was black.
>
>* He jumped out of his car because Trayvon was black.
>
>* He got into a physical altercation with Trayvon because Trayvon was
>black.
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>* He shot Trayvon in the chest because Trayvon was black.
>
>* He told police afterwards that he felt threatened by Trayvon because
>Trayvon was black.
>
>* The veracity of George Michael Zimmerman's account of how he came to

Brent Wolters

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Mar 22, 2012, 12:03:08 PM3/22/12
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Not sure. What do you think?

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Kyle Curtis

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Mar 22, 2012, 12:19:05 PM3/22/12
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Why have the numbers of black people killed as "justifiable homicides" skyrocketed since the Stand Your Ground law was passed?

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 12:22:53 PM3/22/12
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Because they are treated unfairly by white people.

They can commit 100% of the murders, still no excuse to stalk kill an innocent 17 year old with candy.

Kyle Curtis

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Mar 22, 2012, 12:26:56 PM3/22/12
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Brent = Captain Oblivious.

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 12:30:21 PM3/22/12
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Oh yeah i like that Kyle....so basically Brent is saying, "the guy with the gun should just shoot any black person he can find, because they commit more murders"

WHA???

Brent Wolters

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Mar 22, 2012, 12:37:23 PM3/22/12
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Please note:  I'm not defending Zimmerman.  I'm of the opinion that two people really know what went down.  And one of them is dead. 
 
Was it foolish for Zimmerman to follow Trayvon?  Absolutely. 
 
Was it ignorant of him to ignore the 911 dispatcher?  Absolutely.
 
Is there any evidence that would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Zimmerman wasn't attacked first and felt the need to defend himself?  ?  ?  ?  And that is the question that nobody can answer.
 
And thus, Zimmerman isn't behind bars.
 
One thing about law enforcement is that they will not arrest someone unless they believe that they have a decent chance, backed by evidence, to make a case that will stick. 

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 12:40:45 PM3/22/12
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Sorry, but i saw the kid, he was a skinny kid and the guy you ARE defending, Zimmerman, is a giant man...so even if the kid was acting like a threat, he had no reason to shoot him. The guy was gun happy, and out targeting black folk in the community. Stop defending every jack hammer with a god damn gun already! FFS

Brent Wolters

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Mar 22, 2012, 12:43:27 PM3/22/12
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Statistically a black kid is safer growing up in a "white" neighborhood than in a "black" neighborhood.
 
The opposite is NOT true... Here is just another recent example...  http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-03-04/news/31122324_1_white-boy-fire-tv-station
 
Apparently Allen Coons is one of 20 white kids at this urban Kansas City HS.

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 12:51:41 PM3/22/12
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again, you could say that black people are on a bloody Mad Max rampage....still no excuse for shooting a 17 year old with candy.

If he was white and the shooter was black, you would defend the kid with the skittles. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR SHOOTING BLACK KIDS.

Brent Wolters

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Mar 22, 2012, 12:52:29 PM3/22/12
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On March 16th, the Sanford police department released new details to the Orlando Sentinel. Once again, these details have been ignored or changed by the media.

  1. The witness reports that George Zimmerman was on the ground and Trayvon is on top of him punching him.
  2. The witness says that George Zimmerman was screaming and yelling for help.
  3. Police arrive and find Zimmerman bleeding on his face and the back of his head. He also has had grass stains on his back. All this confirms the story told by Zimmerman and the witness.
  4. Police play the 911 tape for Trayvon Martin's father, who tells police that the voice screaming is not the voice of his son.

The neighborhood this took place in has seen a lot of crime. Would you be surprised to learn that there were eight burglaries, nine thefts, and a shooting just in the past year? In fact, the local homeowners' association reports that George Zimmerman actually caught one thief and aided in the apprehension of other criminals. The Miami Herald wrote about this on March 17th. None of the thousands of articles and cable news segments that came after, thought this was important.

In fact the Miami Herald goes on to interview neighbor, Ibrahim Rashada, who is black. Rashada ​confirms that there has been a lot of crime in the neighborhood and indicates to the reporter that the perpetrators are usually black.

The media also characterizes Trayvon as a "model student." In fact, he under a five day suspension when the shooting took place. That is why he was staying at a house so far from his school on a school night. A laywer for Trayvon's family has blocked access to his school records. However, you have to do something pretty bad to get suspended for five days.

Now that you know the suppressed facts of the case, you can for form a better more balanced opinion. Maybe you still think Zimmerman was wrong to pull the trigger. However, I think you will come to the conclusion that the "mainstream" clearly is pushing an agenda. Even when they have to grossly alter and adjust a story to fit that agenda.

http://www.examiner.com/charleston-conservative-in-charleston-sc/zimmerman-was-on-the-ground-being-punched-when-he-shot-trayvon-martin

 

Ironically, Zimmerman who is Hispanic, not white, has a black neighbor???  Yup he sounds racist.   Sarc/

 

 



Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 12:54:40 PM3/22/12
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are you defending the shooter again?

If i was being followed by a guy with a gun for no reason, I would also get the jump on him and start swinging. The boy was singled out and stalked by a mad shooter.

Juneau Smog

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Mar 22, 2012, 12:56:51 PM3/22/12
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Well, except for the transcript of Trayvon on the phone with a friend scared about a car the keeps following him and then saying "what's your problem?" as the car finally approached, followed by Zimmerman exiting the car and jumping Trayvon. Aside from that I guess there's no evidence of whether Zimmerman was trying to defend himself or not.


Kyle Curtis

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Mar 22, 2012, 12:57:56 PM3/22/12
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Once you chase after someone, you are no longer "defending" yourself.  And if Trayan was on top of Zimmerman, he was defending himself from a much larger, armed psycho who had been following Trayvan both in a car and on foot.

Zimmerman committed murder,  'Nuff said.  Oh, and he is a white Hispanic.  If you don't know WTF I'm talking about, looking at a census form or EEOC application.

Brent, I am very impressed by the awareness of your whiteness and how you aren't immediately identified or judged when you walk into a room, and can still feel extremely glib passing on remarks about other races and people with different skin colors.  Top notch, I say!

Juneau Smog

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Mar 22, 2012, 1:00:50 PM3/22/12
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Oh he's hispanic and not white? Phew! Here I was thinking this was a hate crime.

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 1:00:58 PM3/22/12
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all the guy had to do was ask the kid if he lived there...and the problem would have never happened...i bet this "neighborhood watch" dipshit never had any training on how to approach a suspicious person....just a douchebag jumping black kids....Brent would do the same i bet

Daniel Curtis

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Mar 22, 2012, 1:02:35 PM3/22/12
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i'm *shocked that Brent believes any of that examiner hogwash

Kyle Curtis

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Mar 22, 2012, 1:06:28 PM3/22/12
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Part of the rules of being the neighborhood's watch caption includes staying in the car, do not approach, and do not carry armed weapons.

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 1:08:11 PM3/22/12
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Also Zimmerman was arrested in 2005 for suspicion of battery on a law enforcement officer.

Brent's kind of people i guess.

Kyle Curtis

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Mar 22, 2012, 1:10:23 PM3/22/12
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Well, Brent does have a long track record of defending losers and douchebags....

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 1:14:37 PM3/22/12
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The other thing, is this guy wasn't part of the Neighborhood Watch Organizations that are recognized by the local Sheriff's office....He has called the local police 46 times in a year to report suspicious activity, and carried a gun and approached the suspect even tho told not to do so...this makes this douche a vigilante...not a rent a cop...im sorry for my assertations on giving Zimmerman that title.

Brent must be losing this argument...I can tell by the crickets.

Kyle Curtis

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Mar 22, 2012, 1:30:55 PM3/22/12
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Actually, Alex, it was 46 calls to 911 this year--as in since the first of January.

Alex Romero

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i read Jan 2011...which is still a lot, like 4 calls a month? Every week i guess...but if it is Jan 2012 then it just fuels my argument even more....that's like calling every other day....either way...he has no authority to act in such ways.

That is the flaw with our current gun laws, and probably why it causes Captain Oblivious to defend Zimmerman. Florida's "intent of bodily harm" law, puts unwarranted and un documented rights into the minds of the Gun toters. I own guns, but i do not carry them around and call the cops every other day, this guy needs to go to jail, and put on trial.

Brent Wolters

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Mar 22, 2012, 4:05:40 PM3/22/12
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Battery on a LEO...doesn't that put him in the Occupy crowd?

Brent Wolters

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Mar 22, 2012, 4:12:12 PM3/22/12
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are you defending the shooter again?   No.  I'm just reporting the facts.  For the record I wasn't there and we don't know exactly how things went down and probably never will.  Is there enough evidence to confict Zimmerman of being a total idiot?  Yes.  But that doesn't prove that he wasn't in self defense mode when he pulled the trigger. 

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 4:13:19 PM3/22/12
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I think the phone call is proof enough....weird those facts are...stop defending racist killers, and shut up already...fuck

Brent Wolters

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Mar 22, 2012, 4:17:49 PM3/22/12
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THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR SHOOTING BLACK KIDS.
 
Agreed.  But best of luck convincing those living in the black neighborhoods, where gang activity has become tribal, and their respect for the lives of others is severely limited.

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 4:43:15 PM3/22/12
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Restricting the gun laws you protect would make a lot of these neighborhoods you despise a lot safer.

Juneau Smog

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Mar 22, 2012, 4:48:17 PM3/22/12
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Again, we don't know exactly how things went down except for the transcript of Trayvon's last phone call 5 minutes before the police first arrived on the scene:

A phone call from slain black teenager Trayvon Martin to his girlfriend seconds before he was shot dead by a self-appointed neighborhood watch captain "blows ... out of the water" the shooter's self-defense claim and he should be arrested "right now," a lawyer for Martin's family said today.

Attorney Benjamin Crump spoke after ABC News reported exclusively the existence of a phone call between Martin and his girlfriend, which detailed the last terrifying moments of Martin's life as he was pursued, accosted and shot dead by George Zimmerman.

Police accepted Zimmerman's claim of self-defense and have charged him with no crime.

"This young lady connects the dots," said Crump. "Arrest George Zimmerman for the killing of Trayvon Martin in cold blood, today. 


"He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man," Martin's friend said. "I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run but he said he was not going to run."

Eventually he would run, said the girl, thinking that he'd managed to escape. But suddenly the strange man was back, cornering Martin.

"Trayvon said, 'What, are you following me for,' and the man said, 'What are you doing here.' Next thing I hear is somebody pushing, and somebody pushed Trayvon because the head set just fell. I called him again and he didn't answer the phone."

The line went dead. Besides screams heard on 911 calls that night as Martin and Zimmerman scuffled, those were the last words he said.

Trayvon's phone logs, also obtained exclusively by ABC News, show the conversation occurred five minutes before police first arrived on scene.


Follow even more exciting misadventures in politics on the Jsmog Live Blog: http://juneausmog.com

Juneau Smog

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The city of Sanford this week quietly released a 47-page log of some of George Zimmerman's previous phone calls to 911 and police dispatchers. A written detailed report on the fascinating contents. Here's the lede:

At 9:02 p.m. on September 21, 2005, he called 911 about a stray dog on Skyline Drive. At 7:22 p.m. on St. Patrick's Day, 2005, he called 911 about a "pothole that is blocking [the] road." Then there was the pile of trash in the road near the local Kohl's, which he reported on Nov. 8, 2010. "[Complainant] states it appears recently dumped and appears to contain glass," the dispatcher dutifully reported...the newly released police calls paint Zimmerman as a man obsessed with law and order, with the minutiae of suburban life, and with black males.

The full story is kind of amazing, and you can read it here.

We're also learning more about Zimmerman's background: The Daily Beast has a pretty encompassing profile here, and a Fox affiliate in Northern Virginia, where Zimmerman's family lived before moving to Florida, interviewed some of his old acquaintances. George Hall, a former neighbor, tells the station he once wrote Zimmerman a letter of recommendation for the local police academy. "He just said he always wanted to be a policeman, Hall says.

Juneau Smog

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Mar 22, 2012, 4:56:02 PM3/22/12
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Oh wait, now I know where Brent is getting his "Zimmerman was just defending himself from the black criminal" defense. It's from Glen Beck of course:

The Blaze, the website started by former Fox News host Glenn Beck, has lived up to its founder's penchant for reactionary racial paranoia. One post attacking Al Sharpton for criticizing local police for not arresting Zimmerman posits that Martin was once suspended from school for being tardy. The post then speculates that Martin could really have been suspended for any number of reasons, and offers a list that includes "armed robbery," "arson," "kidnapping" or "sexual battery" among others. (Perhaps even for Beck's audience a black kid being late to school may not be enough to justify summary execution.) While Zimmerman stated at the very beginning of his call to the police that Martin "looks black," the Blaze post interprets this to mean that "the audio weakens the racism charge, as it shows that Zimmerman was already suspicious of the teen before he could tell what race he was." The post goes to excruciating lengths to rationalize away the possible racial elements at play, while groping for some implicit justification for Martin's death.

The post's original URL (tawana-brawley-2-0-al-sharpton-sides-with-aggressor-in-self-defense-case) refers to Martin as the "aggressor," despite the fact that the police call establishes that Zimmerman chased down Martin rather than the other way around. The post also compares the situation to the 1987 Tawana Brawley case, which involved a young black woman who falsely accused several white men of rape—the incident that first brought Sharpton to national prominence. The comparison implies that the outrage over Martin's death exists solely to substantiate a groundless charge of racism against white people who are, let's face it, the real victims here. 

That doesn't mean The Blaze doesn't take racism seriously. After all, it does offer a lengthy post, complete with photographs, on the threat by the New Black Liberation Militia (no, I haven't heard of them before, either) to take Zimmerman into custody and turn him over to federal authorities. Buried down towards the bottom of the post, following several slideshows of black people in uniforms holding guns, is the recognition that "Martin may have been attacked, rather than the reverse." It's a matter of priorities—acknowledging the possibility that a teenager might have been murdered because he was black just doesn't warrant the kind of urgency that mocking Al Sharpton or highlighting a publicity-seeking black militia does. 

The black militia story is only the third most popular story on The Blaze at the moment, however. Ahead of it are two stories on Malia Obama's trip to Mexico.

Brent Wolters

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Mar 22, 2012, 4:57:31 PM3/22/12
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Dude, you are so right!  As recently as 2010 Chicago had some of the strictest gun laws on the books and there was absolutely no violent crime...
 
Oh snap!
 

Brent Wolters

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Mar 22, 2012, 4:59:16 PM3/22/12
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What's your point?  That he's a good neighbor who cares about his community?  Got it.

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 4:59:33 PM3/22/12
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national gun laws dip wipe......not gonna work in one city when they can traffic it all from states like Texas

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 5:00:18 PM3/22/12
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keep digging Brent, i can hardly see you in the hole you dug yourself...

Juneau Smog

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Mar 22, 2012, 5:00:57 PM3/22/12
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UPDATE: Sanford police chief steps down "temporarily"; town rally planned at 7 p.m.

I'm sure, just like Brent has said, thing about law enforcement is that they will not arrest someone unless they believe that they have a decent chance, backed by evidence, to make a case that will stick, unless of course they've completely botched the case, incompetent, and are racist enough to just accept Zimmerman's story.

In a dramatic midday statement, beleaguered Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee announced he was leaving his post until the city's investigation into the killing of Trayvon Martin is complete.

"I am aware that my role as a leader in this agency has become a distraction from the investigation," he announced from behind an outdoor podium this afternoon. "It is apparent that my involvement in this matter is overshadowing the process."

Lee announced that he was "temporarily removing" himself from the department's lead as it retraced its steps in an investigation that got off on the wrong foot.

In earlier updates, we explained how Lee's position had grown precarious after the police department failed to arrest or charge shooter George Zimmerman after the killing, and Lee defended that course. "[L]aw enforcement was PROHIBITED from making an arrest based on the facts and circumstances they had at the time," he had stated in response to questions about the case posed by Sanford's city manager.

A sergeant in the department, Scott O'Connor, will take over Lee's duties during the investigation.

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 5:05:09 PM3/22/12
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Cops should do cop work, not wanna be cops.....why didn't he become a cop then? What stopped him from his dream...did he ever apply to become a police man?

I always wanted to be one of those guys who tamed lions...lemme get my whip and hit the local zoos!

Kyle Curtis

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Mar 22, 2012, 5:37:25 PM3/22/12
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I sure as hell wouldn't feel safe with some dipshit like Zimmerman gunning people down in my neighborhood in cold-blood, all for the sake of so-called "self defense."

Brent, why are you defending this murderous racist asshole?

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 5:55:55 PM3/22/12
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Bud said it...because Beck said something, and Brent regurgitates it here...he thinks he is Moses of the Smog for pete's sake...its a complex of some sort im sure of it...Glenn Beck Syndrome...look for it in the DSM-IV in the near future.

Brent Wolters

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Mar 22, 2012, 6:08:48 PM3/22/12
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Call me crazy but I still believe that someone is innocent until proven guilty.  I'm sure it would make life easier for the Sanford cops if they could arrest him...but with what evidence?  A vague phone call?

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 6:11:19 PM3/22/12
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Unless they are Black kids with Skittles. Then they deserve to die.

Kyle Curtis

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Mar 22, 2012, 6:20:19 PM3/22/12
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Alex nailed it.  Clearly, Trayvan Martin wasn't innocent before he crossed paths with Zimmerman, who was judge, jury & executioner.

Call me crazy, but standing over a dead body with a gun in your hand, that typically is more than enough evidence to arrest somebody for the murder they obviously committed.

For some reason, I doubt Brent would be saying the same thing if Trayvan was standing over Zimmerman's body with a smoking gun...

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 6:22:49 PM3/22/12
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its simple, shoot the black kid and then lie to police to cover up your story, hit yourself in the nose...and call it proof....coulda got away scott free if it wasn't for the cell phone...DAMN YOU TECHNOLOGY!

Kyle Curtis

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Mar 22, 2012, 6:25:31 PM3/22/12
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Or if he hadn't chased after the kid, nullifying his "self defense" argument.

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 6:27:15 PM3/22/12
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Yes i read about the guys who wrote that law in Florida...and they said he lost his protection the law dictates ones he chases the kid. You chase someone and they retaliate, is different than being attacked...more like instigating an attack.

Brent Wolters

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Mar 22, 2012, 6:28:17 PM3/22/12
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More than ever cops have become crime historians. 
 
The lesson to be learned here is that when every second counts, don't go armed with skittles,

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 6:29:25 PM3/22/12
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No lesson to be learned here is the more handguns in untrained wanna be cops, the more dead black folk you will see.

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 6:31:34 PM3/22/12
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limit the guns to those with training and clear mental health assessments. Any gun you carry that isn't licensed will be confiscated. Any one with a gun and no trainign to use it, should be confiscated. Want it back...get your butt to training so you don't become a loose cannon.

Brent Wolters

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Mar 22, 2012, 6:33:53 PM3/22/12
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Your ignorance is so glaring.  Predictable, but glaring.
 
The guns are easily accessible from the Chi-town 'burbs...not Texas.

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 6:35:09 PM3/22/12
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Yes im sure they grow out of the ground out there in Chicago....Sorry but the AK-47 you see on the street are not manufactured in Chi-town

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 6:39:03 PM3/22/12
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And anyone calling me ignorant about guns, needs to know i grew up in Arizona. Arizona has some of the most lax gun laws around, and every Saturday night you can hear the gang bangers firing them in the air. I have owned self defense weapons, hunting weapons and even classic firearms. I am an avid reloader, hunter and marksman. I have had training in every weapon I have ever owned, except for my most recent purchase.

Do I want to keep my guns? Yes. Do I go around pretending im a cop? No, because I have been trained no to do so. You wanna argue guns...bring it Brent, I will put you down so fast your conceal permit will spin.

Kyle Curtis

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Mar 22, 2012, 6:47:06 PM3/22/12
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Ha ha, Brent calling someone else ignorant.  Truly hilarious!

Brent Wolters

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Mar 22, 2012, 7:05:03 PM3/22/12
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So Kyle, do you agree with Alex that the guns in Chicago come from Texas?

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 7:06:29 PM3/22/12
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I said states like Texas, by the way...but they are not manufactured in Chicago. How did they get there Brent?

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 7:08:59 PM3/22/12
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Also when it comes to gun traffic....I have had dealings on both sides of the table when it comes to black market guns. Bikers smuggling across state lines? yep...Cops busting underground gun rings? yep....legally trafficking guns myself...yep....seeing my friend shot down in the street by an illegal firearm....yep.

Brent Wolters

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Mar 22, 2012, 7:10:24 PM3/22/12
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Keep digging dumbshit.

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 7:11:49 PM3/22/12
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Im not doing anything but putting your sorry ass in your place...what? you read one NRA pamphlet....?

What kind of training and exposure to gun traffic have you had? ever work with local law enforcement?....i expect crickets dip wad

Brent Wolters

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Mar 22, 2012, 7:31:36 PM3/22/12
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Enjoy your crickets for I haven't the time (or desire) to debate with someone who is so clueless.   Texas???   Ha!

Kyle Curtis

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Mar 22, 2012, 7:43:52 PM3/22/12
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So for some reason, we are talking about Chicago and Texas...

I can see how that is completely relevant to the subject of an unarmed 17-year old black kid getting gunned down in cold blood by a racist wanna-be cop.

Alex Romero

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Mar 22, 2012, 7:51:27 PM3/22/12
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As expected, you are the ignorant one. I have shipped automatic weapons thru an FFL to chicago, but your right, they grow on trees up there. Sarc
Alex

From: "Brent Wolters" <brenton...@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:31:36 -0700
Subject: RE: From Captain Obvious...

Alex Romero

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If you need a gun in Chicago, you can simply drive to another state, have your buddy buy you a weapon, or go to a gun show and drive it back home....until the ATF cracks down on illegal FFL dealers, and cross state regulations are in place, we will see increasing amounts of stories like the innocent young man in Florida.


is the Midwest Chi-town?...im just asking?

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/03/11/us/how-criminals-get-guns-in-short-all-too-easily.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Two years ago James M. Ryan was one of the 270,000 Americans with a Federal firearms license. The easy-to-obtain $30 license is good for three years and allows the person to buy and sell guns across state lines. The license holders are also subject to state and local laws, but some, like Mr. Ryan, use their Federal license to obtain weapons and then sell them illegally.

He had traveled the Midwest buying weapons from gun shops. He took them back to Chicago, where most handgun sales are illegal, and sold the guns in alleys and parking lots. He was tracked down after three pistols recovered in a gang shooting were traced to his home business in the Englewood section of the South Side, the neighborhood with the most homicides in the city last year. 600 Guns From One Man

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