Response to Dick's iPhone 4S comments on episode 367

[phil swenson]

First on Siri: Dick commented that it was uncool that Apple bought Siri and didn't keep the Siri App alive.  It's a server side service, so keeping the app alive means maintaining a legacy service.  If this is uncool then it's also uncool that Google has killed off a bunch of services they bought.  Notable to me was JotSpot (I was a happy JotSpot user) - Google bought and killed it and never replaced it with anything decent.

There were a lot of comments about the 4s being a disappointing upgrade.  4S has a better camera, faster processor - just like all the Android updates.  And of course the "global phone" feature - but that's probably a bigger deal to the Apple manufacturing process than most users.  In reality, specs don't matter much.  most consumers don't pay attention to specs - what really matters is real world performance.  Is it easy to use?  Is it responsive?  Does it take good pictures?  Does the battery make it through the day?  Is it cool?

I don't think Apple is going to update the look just to say they updated the look.  The iPhone 4 IMO is the best looking/designed phone out there.  If you notice, they have the same philosophy with the macs and iPods.  They keep case designs for more than one product cycle.  No change just for the sake of change.

Most of the improvements are software.  And they are huge.  Apple addressed almost all the irritants:  wifi synching with iTunes, doesn't lock your phone on sync, OTA updates, notifications.  And added a bunch of cool stuff:  siri, iMessage, iCloud, iTunes match, airplay, photostream.

I agree on the glass back being a mostly bad idea on the iPhone 4 (well, it's great until you drop it).  But you can always buy a case.  From what I see, I bet 80% of smartphone users use a case (I don't, but I never drop mine).

The main iOS/iPhone irritants left are:  

no background processing for grabbing data (this is partially mitigated by newsstand)

no way to set different default apps (like a browser)

iMessage only works on iOS devices (no mac, no open protocol)

no user defined widgets (just the canned ones)

no LTE (here is why:  http://www.anandtech.com/show/4925/why-no-lte-iphone-5-blame-28nm-maturity .  basically, Apple would have had to have a much larger phone to have anywhere close to decent battery life)

only one screen size offered (I think this one matters more to the techies, but I personally would like something closer to 4")

[work only]

I for one will never listen to Java Posse, just so ant Apple.

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[phil swenson]

I for one enjoy hearing opinions even if I don't agree.  Listening to people you agree 100% with is often boring.

[Paulo "JCranky" Siqueira]

Not only boring, but you learn a lot less as well :-)

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[Mark Derricutt]

Wow - full circle.  It was only last year people were dropping the Posse from their listener because they were overly PRO Apple.  Geez people - stop with the fragmentation :)

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[Fabrizio Giudici]

On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:26:45 +0200, Mark Derricutt <ma...@talios.com> wrote:

> Wow - full circle. It was only last year people were dropping the Posse
> from their listener because they were overly PRO Apple. Geez people -
> stop
> with the fragmentation :)

I think it's so annoying that the Posse is (almost) at the same time pro
and anti Apple ;-)

Seriously, please, no fanboysm here.

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[Vince O'Sullivan]

On Oct 26, 6:20 pm, work only <vorlonsw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I for one will never listen to Java Posse, just so ant Apple.

Spoken like a true Apple fan. :)

Unfortunately, I haven't gotten around to listening to the show yet
because my iPod has died. :(

Vince.

[Chris Adamson]

While we're on the topic of abandoned users, I'm outraged that my TiVo
hasn't had a software update in years. I'm going to switch to a Linux-
based DVR that posts their source as required by the GPL, perhaps one
that ironically derives most of its profits from patent trollery.

[Vince O'Sullivan]

On Oct 27, 12:25 pm, Chris Adamson <invalidn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> While we're on the topic of abandoned users, I'm outraged that my TiVo
> hasn't had a software update in years.

Same goes for my Oric computer ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oric#Oric-1
). It must be twenty-five years since they issued an update. If this
keeps up, I'm going to switch over to the 'dark side' and get a
Sinclair Spectrum ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum )!

[Jan Goyvaerts]

What wrong with the Sinclair computers ?! :-)

I was *very* pleased with my ZX-81 (1K ram), ZX Spectrum(48KB ram) and finally the QL (128KB ram). Never ran out of memory ! :-P

[Fabrizio Giudici]

On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:48:22 +0200, Jan Goyvaerts <java.a...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> What wrong with the Sinclair computers ?! :-)
>
> I was *very* pleased with my ZX-81 (1K ram), ZX Spectrum(48KB ram) and
> finally the QL (128KB ram). Never ran out of memory ! :-P
>

Sorry... Commodore rocks!

[Uberto Barbini]

Well with QL you could go up to... 1 Megabyte (well 640k actually) :)

Uberto

[Jan Goyvaerts]

Damn right ! And 32-bits & multitasking ! The microdrives however were a real danger to their content. Cute though. :-)

[ricky.c...@gmail.com]

I seem to recall that RANDOMIZE USR 16 would cause the 48k to reboot. Not until much later did I realise that it was crashing, I just thought it was a hidden feature.

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[ricky.c...@gmail.com]

C64 BASIC had no PLOT command, making it much less fun than the Spectrum line.

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[Uberto Barbini]

I remember there was a rumor about some dirty trick in assembler to
have more than 2 colors on the same 8x8 cell on the Spectrum. Never
knew it was true or not...

Uberto

[Jan Goyvaerts]

It was the time bugs were published in newspapers. :-)

[work only]

Spoken like a true Apple fan.  :)

Not really an Apple Fan, would NOT care if the information was correct 90% of the time BUT it's not and done with the patent crap.



 

[Reinier Zwitserloot]

If this is going to turn into a whine about the posse thread, I'll toss in my 2 cents:

If you guys don't stop whinging about the excellent content, I'll stop reading your posts. So there. This patent stuff is _in the news_, and extremely relevant to java.

[Scott Melton]

And the geeks shall inherit the earth...

On Oct 27, 5:17 am, Jan Goyvaerts <java.arti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Damn right ! And 32-bits & multitasking ! The microdrives however were a
> real danger to their content. Cute though. :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 14:10, Uberto Barbini <ube...@ubiland.net> wrote:
> > Well with QL you could go up to... 1 Megabyte (well 640k actually) :)
>
> > Uberto
>
> > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Fabrizio Giudici
> > <Fabrizio.Giud...@tidalwave.it> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:48:22 +0200, Jan Goyvaerts <

> > java.arti...@gmail.com>

> > > wrote:
>
> > >> What wrong with the Sinclair computers ?! :-)
>
> > >> I was *very* pleased with my ZX-81 (1K ram), ZX Spectrum(48KB ram) and
> > >> finally the QL (128KB ram). Never ran out of memory ! :-P
>
> > > Sorry... Commodore rocks!
>
> > > --
> > > Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager
> > > Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere."

> > > fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it
> > >http://tidalwave.it-http://fabriziogiudici.it