Is the Bhaktivedanta Archives Another Peyton Place?
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Pratyatosa Dasa (ACBSP)
Mar 10, 2010, 5:41:41 AM3/10/10
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Dear Prabhus, Hare Krishna! Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
In answer to the following question:
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Pratyatosa Dasa (ACBSP) <praty...@gmail.com> wrote:
Are [Nitya-trpta dd] and Krishna Prema still married?
I just now received the following information from an anonymous source:
"No. She went back to her first husband, Ekanath, and [Krishna Prema] is with another woman."
This is outrageous! From this little tidbit, we can deduce the following:
1. The head of the Bhaktivedanta Archives, Ekanatha Das, used to be married to Nitya-trpta dd, who also now works at the Archives.
2. Nitya-trpta and Ekanatha both got divorced.
3. Both of them remarried, Nitya-trpta dd to Krishna Prema from Italy who got initiated by Bhagavan ex-swami and then re-initiated by Harikesa ex-swami and is now "with another woman."
4. Nitya-trpta and Ekanatha both got divorced again!
5. Then Nitya-trpta went back to her 1st husband, Ekanatha das at the Archives!
Do any of you know any more of the details of this scandal? Who is Ekanatha's 2nd wife, and where are she and Ekanatha's children now? Did Ekanatha ever succeed in selling his comfortable country grha (house)? I guess not, because it is still listed on the Bhaktivedanta Archives' official website:
http://www.prabhupada.com/home/
Now we know where our money goes when we donate to the Archives!
And we wonder why, after 32 years, they still haven't made high quality, unedited, unprocessed copies of all of Srila Prabhupada's audio tapes? These are not grhasthas. They are definitely grhamedhis! :-(
Isn't it high time for a changing of the guard at the Bhaktivedanta Archives? Shouldn't someone be in charge of the Archives who at least comes up to the karmi standards of morality (no divorce)? (My wife and I never got divorced. My parents never got divorced. I have 3 siblings, all 3 of whom got married when they were young, and none of them ever got divorced. It's not so unusual!)
Do you really want Srila Prabhupada's priceless legacy to be in the hands of such low-class, immoral people who are simply in it for the money?
Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa
In answer to the following question:
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Pratyatosa Dasa (ACBSP) <praty...@gmail.com> wrote:
Are [Nitya-trpta dd] and Krishna Prema still married?
I just now received the following information from an anonymous source:
"No. She went back to her first husband, Ekanath, and [Krishna Prema] is with another woman."
This is outrageous! From this little tidbit, we can deduce the following:
1. The head of the Bhaktivedanta Archives, Ekanatha Das, used to be married to Nitya-trpta dd, who also now works at the Archives.
2. Nitya-trpta and Ekanatha both got divorced.
3. Both of them remarried, Nitya-trpta dd to Krishna Prema from Italy who got initiated by Bhagavan ex-swami and then re-initiated by Harikesa ex-swami and is now "with another woman."
4. Nitya-trpta and Ekanatha both got divorced again!
5. Then Nitya-trpta went back to her 1st husband, Ekanatha das at the Archives!
Do any of you know any more of the details of this scandal? Who is Ekanatha's 2nd wife, and where are she and Ekanatha's children now? Did Ekanatha ever succeed in selling his comfortable country grha (house)? I guess not, because it is still listed on the Bhaktivedanta Archives' official website:
http://www.prabhupada.com/home/
Now we know where our money goes when we donate to the Archives!
And we wonder why, after 32 years, they still haven't made high quality, unedited, unprocessed copies of all of Srila Prabhupada's audio tapes? These are not grhasthas. They are definitely grhamedhis! :-(
Isn't it high time for a changing of the guard at the Bhaktivedanta Archives? Shouldn't someone be in charge of the Archives who at least comes up to the karmi standards of morality (no divorce)? (My wife and I never got divorced. My parents never got divorced. I have 3 siblings, all 3 of whom got married when they were young, and none of them ever got divorced. It's not so unusual!)
Do you really want Srila Prabhupada's priceless legacy to be in the hands of such low-class, immoral people who are simply in it for the money?
Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa
Pratyatosa Dasa (ACBSP)
Mar 10, 2010, 9:18:35 AM3/10/10
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Pratyatosa Dasa (ACBSP) <praty...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Is the Bhaktivedanta Archives Another Peyton Place?
To: Chakra Correspondence <chakra...@gmail.com>
Cc: edi...@dandavats.com, in...@prabhupadanugas.eu, "S...@harekrsna.com" <s...@harekrsna.com>
Dear Mother Madhusudani Prabhu, marital problems are one thing. Divorce is a completely different ball game. Srila Prabhupada didn't get along with his wife very well, but he didn't divorce her and she didn't divorce him. Let's try to follow Srila Prabhupada's example, OK?
The biggest problem is that the Archive devotees are incompetent (I can prove it) and they are in it for the money (That's obvious). Even after 32 years, they still haven't done their most basic archiving duties that should have been done in the first year!
I've been telling them for years to make high quality, exact copies of Srila Prabhupada's original tapes available on the Internet as free downloads, but they are obviously afraid that it might decrease their profit margins and therefore decrease their householder independence, so they simply ignore the requests of not only myself, but of Rocana Prabhu, Madhudvisa Prabhu, Visnu Murti Prabhu, and many others. Archiving is obviously of secondary importance to them! :-(
BTW, that article of mine that you so kindly published is actually an updated version of something that I sent to the Archives devotees 2 years ago!
Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa
From: Pratyatosa Dasa (ACBSP) <praty...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Is the Bhaktivedanta Archives Another Peyton Place?
To: Chakra Correspondence <chakra...@gmail.com>
Cc: edi...@dandavats.com, in...@prabhupadanugas.eu, "S...@harekrsna.com" <s...@harekrsna.com>
Dear Mother Madhusudani Prabhu, marital problems are one thing. Divorce is a completely different ball game. Srila Prabhupada didn't get along with his wife very well, but he didn't divorce her and she didn't divorce him. Let's try to follow Srila Prabhupada's example, OK?
The biggest problem is that the Archive devotees are incompetent (I can prove it) and they are in it for the money (That's obvious). Even after 32 years, they still haven't done their most basic archiving duties that should have been done in the first year!
I've been telling them for years to make high quality, exact copies of Srila Prabhupada's original tapes available on the Internet as free downloads, but they are obviously afraid that it might decrease their profit margins and therefore decrease their householder independence, so they simply ignore the requests of not only myself, but of Rocana Prabhu, Madhudvisa Prabhu, Visnu Murti Prabhu, and many others. Archiving is obviously of secondary importance to them! :-(
BTW, that article of mine that you so kindly published is actually an updated version of something that I sent to the Archives devotees 2 years ago!
Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Chakra Correspondence <chakra...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Pratyatosa Prabhu,
You seem to be mistaking us for the National Enquirer. We didn't post anything on your marital problems, nor are we interested in posting anything on anyone else's. Please revisit your own motivations and consider the possibility that you're just upset with the BA staff because you can't control them and therefore want to hurt them. Please leave us off any future correspondence of this type.
Ys,
Madhusudani dasi
Pratyatosa Dasa (ACBSP)
Mar 10, 2010, 10:07:48 AM3/10/10
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Dear Kapindra Maharaja, Hare Krishna! Please accept my
humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
Good question. I don't think that public lectures can be copyrighted, but the private conversations might be another matter. However, an ISKCON lawyer who looked into the matter told me some years ago, that none of Srila Prabhupada's recorded materials, even including the record albums, were ever legally copyrighted, so they are all in the public domain. Therefore, the BBTI, when they claim to hold the copyrights, are either simply in illusion or they are just pretending.
A few years back, a devotee started a "Govinda's" restaurant in Chapel Hill, North Carolina that sold beer and wine. When the GBC man in charge of restaurants, Badrinarayana das, tried to sue them, he found out that even the name "Govinda's" wasn't trademarked or copyrighted, so he had no legal basis for a lawsuit. The end result was that the GBC agreed to pay the restaurant owner $5000 if he would please, pretty please, just change the name from "Govinda's" to "Gavinda's!" Might be a good way for other entrepreneurs to make some money off the GBC! :-o
On a related issue, please see the forwarded message below together with the comment from a female older devotee from Prabhupada Village (where the Bhaktivedanta Archives is located).
Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa
Good question. I don't think that public lectures can be copyrighted, but the private conversations might be another matter. However, an ISKCON lawyer who looked into the matter told me some years ago, that none of Srila Prabhupada's recorded materials, even including the record albums, were ever legally copyrighted, so they are all in the public domain. Therefore, the BBTI, when they claim to hold the copyrights, are either simply in illusion or they are just pretending.
A few years back, a devotee started a "Govinda's" restaurant in Chapel Hill, North Carolina that sold beer and wine. When the GBC man in charge of restaurants, Badrinarayana das, tried to sue them, he found out that even the name "Govinda's" wasn't trademarked or copyrighted, so he had no legal basis for a lawsuit. The end result was that the GBC agreed to pay the restaurant owner $5000 if he would please, pretty please, just change the name from "Govinda's" to "Gavinda's!" Might be a good way for other entrepreneurs to make some money off the GBC! :-o
On a related issue, please see the forwarded message below together with the comment from a female older devotee from Prabhupada Village (where the Bhaktivedanta Archives is located).
Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:02 AM,
pss...@juno.com <pss...@juno.com> wrote:
Does the Archives have the sole rights to Srila Prabhupada's lectures,etc or it is public property like the Hare Krishna mantra and the Bhagavad-gita? Kapindra Swami
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To: "Pratyatosa Dasa (ACBSP)" <praty...@gmail.com>
OMG!
For now, I'd like to stay informed. But, don't worry, I keep a barf bag by my side when I read these...
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OK to publish or to forward, but please do not make any changes without my permission.
What Is the Legal Basis for the Bhaktivedanta Archives?
Dear Ekanatha Prabhu, Hare Krishna! Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
Considering the recently published article on the Sampradaya Sun, entitled Ekanatha said "It's too controversial", Not Me, and the fact that I couldn't find one single GBC resolution (http://pratyatosa.com/GBCRES.htm), authorizing the Bhaktivedanta Archives to do anything, some questions come to mind:
1. Did you actually make the statement that the unreleased tapes are "too controversial?" (This statement seems to be a complete contradiction of your earlier statement claiming that the Bhaktivedanta Archives9. If you fail to provide the above mentioned corporate information to anyone who requests it, aren't you in danger of losing your status as a Federally approved non-profit organization?
2. If so, then in what way are these tapes "too controversial?"
3. What is the BA's legal basis?
4. Is the BA a legal 501c3 not-for-profit corporation?
5. If so, then in what state (of the United States) is it incorporated?
6. Isn't your legally mandated annual board meeting supposed to be a matter of public record? If so, where are the transcripts?
7. Isn't it also legally mandated that the corporation's board of directors be a matter of public record? If so, then who are they?
8. Aren't the corporation's by-laws supposed to be a matter of public record? If so, then where are they?and/or the BBTI? If not, then why not?
10. Do the BA corporation's by-laws state that the BA is subservient to the GBC, the BBT,
11. Even if there was a resolution passed by the GBC that the BA is authorized to do what it is doing, even the GBC, as it is presently constituted, has a very questionable legal basis, and even more questionable is the legal basis for the BBT / BBTI as they are now constituted. Isn't that true?
12. Who is the BA's GBC representative?
13. What's to stop legal action from being taken by a group of devotees who can prove that they are the real disciples of Srila Prabhupada to force the BA to turn over Srila Prabhupada's priceless legacy to them?
Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa
Pratyatosa Dasa (ACBSP)
Mar 10, 2010, 10:58:11 AM3/10/10
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Date: Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: Is the Bhaktivedanta Archives Another Peyton Place?
To: Chakra Correspondence <chakra...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Is the Bhaktivedanta Archives Another Peyton Place?
To: Chakra Correspondence <chakra...@gmail.com>
Cc: in...@prabhupadanugas.eu, "S...@harekrsna.com" <s...@harekrsna.com>
Besides the fact that you don't know what you're talking about, it's all irrelevant because I'm not campaigning to be in charge of the Bhaktivedanta Archives or any other official post, so what difference does my and my wife's personal life make? I have the educational and practical experience background (B.S. degree in Applied Physics plus years of experience as a professional computer programmer plus the fact that I've worked in professional recording studios and even started my own recording studio plus years of experience as a webmaster and last, but not least, the fact that I started the Bhaktivedanta Tape Ministry) to know what I'm talking about.
Facts are facts. Name one thing that I've said about the Archives that's not a fact. Aren't you interested in publishing facts? Like I've told you before, if you want "sanitized versions" of anything that I write, then please let me know, and I will be happy to oblige.
The situation at the Archives is an emergency. Let's not let personal gripes get in the way of our quest to save Srila Prabhupada's precious legacy, which is obviously in great danger. More than 1900 signatures on the Petition is nothing to sneeze at! Don't you think that to say that the petition is "misguided and unnecessary" is a bit of an offense to those more than 1900 devotees?
Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa
Besides the fact that you don't know what you're talking about, it's all irrelevant because I'm not campaigning to be in charge of the Bhaktivedanta Archives or any other official post, so what difference does my and my wife's personal life make? I have the educational and practical experience background (B.S. degree in Applied Physics plus years of experience as a professional computer programmer plus the fact that I've worked in professional recording studios and even started my own recording studio plus years of experience as a webmaster and last, but not least, the fact that I started the Bhaktivedanta Tape Ministry) to know what I'm talking about.
Facts are facts. Name one thing that I've said about the Archives that's not a fact. Aren't you interested in publishing facts? Like I've told you before, if you want "sanitized versions" of anything that I write, then please let me know, and I will be happy to oblige.
The situation at the Archives is an emergency. Let's not let personal gripes get in the way of our quest to save Srila Prabhupada's precious legacy, which is obviously in great danger. More than 1900 signatures on the Petition is nothing to sneeze at! Don't you think that to say that the petition is "misguided and unnecessary" is a bit of an offense to those more than 1900 devotees?
Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:13 AM, Pratyatosa Dasa (ACBSP) <praty...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mother Madhusudani Prabhu, marital problems are one thing. Divorce is a completely different ball game. Srila Prabhupada didn't get along with his wife very well, but he didn't divorce her and she didn't divorce him. Let's try to follow Srila Prabhupada's example, OK?
I'm pretty sure that abusing one's wife until one's children calls the cops and the community has a restraining order put in place was not a part of Prabhupada's program. If I were you, I would not be bragging about the lack of divorce. That accomplishment is entirely due to your wife, who put up with more than any woman should have to do.
Enough on this topic. It's not uplifting or helping anyone's KC. Chakra remains uninterested in posting dirt of this kind. Please leave us off future correspondence on this topic.
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