24072011-BS-001 A tree from Karnal for ID

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Balkar Arya

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Jul 24, 2011, 12:00:30 PM7/24/11
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Dear All
A medium size Avenue tree from Mall Road Karnal haryana. planted by Forest deptt/PWD. these are about 20 trees are there in line.
fruit about 2.5 to 3.5 cm. Flowers not seen. Shot 18-6-11
my guess is Trewia

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Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
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Satish Phadke

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Jul 25, 2011, 3:32:01 AM7/25/11
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Any chance of Thespesia populnae? The raw fruits are close to it.
Dr Phadke

Pinki

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Jul 25, 2011, 7:07:35 AM7/25/11
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Trewia nudiflora....Most probably

Alok

On Jul 25, 12:32 am, Satish Phadke <drsmpha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Any chance of *Thespesia populnae*? The raw fruits are close to it.

promila chaturvedi

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Jul 25, 2011, 8:38:56 AM7/25/11
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I support Satish Ji's identification.
Promila

Balkar Arya

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Jul 25, 2011, 11:27:40 AM7/25/11
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I have not seen fruits of both Trewia nudiflora and T populnae so cant say anything. One thing more i have seen T populnea in profusely flowering stage in those days only 2-3 days before or after in Karnal the same city

Dinesh Valke

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Jul 25, 2011, 12:17:27 PM7/25/11
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... the fruits of Balkar ji's posted plant does not look like that of Thespesia populnea.
A view of T. populnea : http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2095676520/

Regards.
Dinesh

mchunkat

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Jul 25, 2011, 12:46:58 PM7/25/11
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...certainly not fruits of T. populnea.
Regards,
Mohan

On Jul 25, 9:17 pm, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ... the fruits of Balkar ji's posted plant does not look like that of
> *Thespesia
> populnea*.
> A view of T. populnea :http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2095676520/
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
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> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Balkar Arya <balkara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have not seen fruits of both Trewia nudiflora and T populnae so cant say
> > anything. One thing more i have seen T populnea in profusely flowering stage
> > in those days only 2-3 days before or after in Karnal the same city
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> > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:08 PM, promila chaturvedi <
> > thegardener.chaturv...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> I support Satish Ji's identification.
> >> Promila
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Smilax004

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Jul 25, 2011, 12:48:57 PM7/25/11
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Looks like Trewia nudiflora for me. I do not think that this is
Thespesia.

Regards,
Giby




On Jul 25, 9:17 pm, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ... the fruits of Balkar ji's posted plant does not look like that of
> *Thespesia
> populnea*.
> A view of T. populnea :http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2095676520/
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
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> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Balkar Arya <balkara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have not seen fruits of both Trewia nudiflora and T populnae so cant say
> > anything. One thing more i have seen T populnea in profusely flowering stage
> > in those days only 2-3 days before or after in Karnal the same city
>
> > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:08 PM, promila chaturvedi <
> > thegardener.chaturv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> I support Satish Ji's identification.
> >> Promila
>

Smilax004

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Jul 25, 2011, 12:46:21 PM7/25/11
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Looks like Trewia nudiflora for me.

Regards
Giby





On Jul 25, 9:17 pm, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ... the fruits of Balkar ji's posted plant does not look like that of
> *Thespesia
> populnea*.
> A view of T. populnea :http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2095676520/
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
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> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Balkar Arya <balkara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have not seen fruits of both Trewia nudiflora and T populnae so cant say
> > anything. One thing more i have seen T populnea in profusely flowering stage
> > in those days only 2-3 days before or after in Karnal the same city
>
> > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:08 PM, promila chaturvedi <
> > thegardener.chaturv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> I support Satish Ji's identification.
> >> Promila
>

Neil Soares

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Jul 25, 2011, 1:22:24 PM7/25/11
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Ushadi micromini

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Jul 26, 2011, 12:14:02 AM7/26/11
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DEAR ALL: THERE IS a thread with a lot of good pictures of the leaves
of Trevia nudiflora annd fine writing by Rshida ji and Usha n Desai ji
at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/4cf62da7aa3fe045....
our own thread....

and NEIL: I could not get to your link's picture...
can just post those pictures directly here?

Usha di
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On Jul 25, 10:22 pm, Neil Soares <drneilsoa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>  This does not look like Trewia nudiflora to me. Please check my photographs of T.nudiflora [Petari / Petani] available at this link :
>  
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.gx=1&.tm=1311614244&.rand=ai87q6kq6gfni#_pg=showMessage&sMid=21&fid=%2540S%2540Search&filterBy=&squery=Trewia%20nudiflora%20Neil%20Soares&vp=1&.rand=520199696&midIndex=21&mid=1_23524_2_2613195_0_ACNVv9EAACFbR%2FWiugtsHQagJQI&fromId=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com&clean&m=1_21557_2_2611603_0_ACZVv9EAAJjKR%2FZbGgktqBbLLMc,1_22541_2_2612654_0_ACdVv9EAALj8R%2FXTzQtOsX0E9AI,1_23524_2_2613195_0_ACNVv9EAACFbR%2FWiugtsHQagJQI,&sort=date&order=&startMid=0&.jsrand=7571544
>  
>                                 Regards,
>                                  Neil Soares.
>
> --- On Mon, 7/25/11, Smilax004 <giby.kuriak...@gmail.com> wrote:

Smilax004

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Jul 26, 2011, 1:46:34 AM7/26/11
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A second thought from my side.
This might be Trewia polycarpa. The new name is Mallotus polycarpus
(Benth.) Kulju & Welzen of Euphorbiaceae family.


Regards,
Giby




On Jul 25, 10:22 pm, Neil Soares <drneilsoa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>  This does not look like Trewia nudiflora to me. Please check my photographs of T.nudiflora [Petari / Petani] available at this link :
>  
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.gx=1&.tm=1311614244&.rand=ai87q6 kq6gfni#_pg=showMessage&sMid=21&fid=%2540S%2540Search&filterBy=&squery=Trew ia%20nudiflora%20Neil%20Soares&vp=1&.rand=520199696&midIndex=21&mid=1_23524 _2_2613195_0_ACNVv9EAACFbR%2FWiugtsHQagJQI&fromId=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com&clean&m=1_21557_2_2611603_0_ACZVv9EAAJjKR%2FZbGgktqBbLLMc,1_2254 1_2_2612654_0_ACdVv9EAALj8R%2FXTzQtOsX0E9AI,1_23524_2_2613195_0_ACNVv9EAACF bR%2FWiugtsHQagJQI,&sort=date&order=&startMid=0&.jsrand=7571544
>  
>                                 Regards,
>                                  Neil Soares.
>
> --- On Mon, 7/25/11, Smilax004 <giby.kuriak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Smilax004 <giby.kuriak...@gmail.com>

Neil Soares

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Jul 26, 2011, 3:12:33 AM7/26/11
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Hi,
 My photographs as requested.
                       Regards,
                         Neil Soares.

--- On Tue, 7/26/11, Ushadi micromini <micromi...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Ushadi micromini <micromi...@gmail.com>
Subject: [efloraofindia:75160] Re: 24072011-BS-001 A tree from Karnal for ID
To: "efloraofindia" <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 9:44 AM

DEAR ALL: THERE IS  a thread with a lot of good pictures of the leaves
of Trevia nudiflora annd fine writing by Rshida ji and Usha n Desai ji
at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/4cf62da7aa3fe045....
our own thread....

and NEIL: I could not get to your link's picture...
can just post those pictures directly here?

Usha di
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Trewia nudiflora.jpg
Leaf of Petari,Petani.jpg
Trewia nudiflora flowers.jpg
Fruit of Trewia nudiflora.jpg

Ushadi micromini

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Jul 26, 2011, 9:13:12 AM7/26/11
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Appropriately photographed, to show leaf en face, flowers, seeds ,
ie phots in different times...
a full sographed thru the year,.
thanks for sharing
and being soooo obliging..
Usha di
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On Jul 26, 12:12 pm, Neil Soares <drneilsoa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>  My photographs as requested.
>                        Regards,
>                          Neil Soares.
>
> --- On Tue, 7/26/11, Ushadi micromini <microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Ushadi micromini <microminipho...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [efloraofindia:75160] Re: 24072011-BS-001 A tree from Karnal for ID
> To: "efloraofindia" <indian...@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 9:44 AM
>
> DEAR ALL: THERE IS  a thread with a lot of good pictures of the leaves
> of Trevia nudiflora annd fine writing by Rshida ji and Usha n Desai ji
> athttp://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/4cf.......
>  Trewia nudiflora.jpg
> 58KViewDownload
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>  Leaf of Petari,Petani.jpg
> 103KViewDownload
>
>  Trewia nudiflora flowers.jpg
> 116KViewDownload
>
>  Fruit of Trewia nudiflora.jpg
> 102KViewDownload

Balkar Arya

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Jul 26, 2011, 1:57:19 PM7/26/11
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Response from Atul Ji
Guess  this is Beach Cordia (Cordia Subcordata) Family Boraginaceae

J.M. Garg

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Nov 1, 2011, 10:36:52 AM11/1/11
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Trewia nudiflora....Most probably

Alok”              

                

“... the fruits of Balkar ji's posted plant does not look like that of Thespesia populnea.

Regards.
Dinesh”

 

“This does not look like Trewia nudiflora to me. Please check my photographs of T.nudiflora [Petari / Petani] available at this link :
 
http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.gx=1&.tm=1311614244&.rand=ai87q6kq6gfni#_pg=showMessage&sMid=21&fid=%2540S%2540Search&filterBy=&squery=Trewia%20nudiflora%20Neil%20Soares&vp=1&.rand=520199696&midIndex=21&mid=1_23524_2_2613195_0_ACNVv9EAACFbR%2FWiugtsHQagJQI&fromId=drneil...@yahoo.com&clean&m=1_21557_2_2611603_0_ACZVv9EAAJjK R%2FZbGgktqBbLLMc,1_22541_2_2612654_0_ACdVv9EAALj8R%2FXTzQtOsX0E9AI,1_23524_2_2613195_0_ACNVv9EAACFbR%2FWiugtsHQagJQI,&sort=date&order=&startMid=0&.jsrand=7571544” from Neil ji.


"A second thought from my side.
This might be Trewia polycarpa. The new name is Mallotus polycarpus (Benth.) Kulju & Welzen of Euphorbiaceae family.
Regards,
Giby"
 
Response from Atul Ji
"Guess  this is Beach Cordia (Cordia Subcordata) Family Boraginaceae"
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prasad dash

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Nov 2, 2011, 1:54:36 AM11/2/11
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This is Trewia nudiflora of Euphorbiaceae 

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