Ziziphus caracutta for id confirmation. 30.05.14_AK_02

[Aneeta Kindre]

Hello Friends,

This tree found in Pune district region, May 2014

Local people called it as "Ghatbor"/"Ghuti"

Prickles are not seen, found only one fruit !!

 is it Ziziphus caracutta or Z. xylopyrus ??

now one more query, 

Actually what is the difference between Z. caracutta & Z. xylopyrus ??

Warm regards,

Anita Kindre.

[Neil Soares]

Hi,

 This also could be Z xylopyra because the fruit appear slightly tomentose.

 

Mr.Ingalhalikar in his book ' Flowers of the Sayadaris', Vol.2  has indicated that Z.xylopyra is a synonym of Z.caracutta [Dr.Almeida calls it Z.caracatta].

 

Cooke's 'Flora of Bombay Presidency' makes no mention of Z.caracatta.

 

Dr. Almeida in his 'Flora of Maharashtra', Vol 1 and Yadav & Sardesai in their 'Flora of Kholapur District' have separated the two.

 Z.caracatta is an unarmed small shrub / small tree. with glabrous leaves and fruit.

 Z.xylopyra is a small tree [which may or may not be armed with prickles] and has tomentose undersurface of leaves and fruit. 

 

 

 

Just spoke to Dr.Almeida.

 

His take :

 

- the 2 are distinct species.

- Z.caracatta has no spines.

- Z.caracutta was first described by Roxburgh from the Coromandel coast as a small unarmed tree.

- Fr. Santapau changed its name to Z.glabberima.

- Dr.Almeida in his book 'Flora of Maharashtra' has reverted back to its original name Z.caracatta.

 

                         With regards,

                           Neil Soares.

 

From: Aneeta Kindre <kindre...@gmail.com>
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Neil Soares <drneil...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 5:22 PM
Subject: Ziziphus caracutta for id confirmation. 30.05.14_AK_02

Hello Friends,

This tree found in Pune district region, May 2014

Local people called it as "Ghatbor"/"Ghuti"

Prickles are not seen !! is it Ziziphus caracutta or Z. xylopyrus ??

now one more query, 

Actually what is the difference between Z. caracutta & Z. xylopyrus ??

Warm regards,

Anita Kindre.

[vip...@gmail.com]

Dear Dr Neil & Aneeta ji,

All this is very interesting. I just referred to Fr. Santapau's notes on Zizyphus (attached herewith) and I feel it resembles Z. caracutta [syn. Z. glaberrima (Sedgw.) Sant.]

Fr. Santapau has described this species as being "similar to Z. xylopyra, but differing principally in the leaves being completely glabrous or at most only the primary nerves being somewhat slightly pubescent. Small tree, erect, up to 4 m. high, mostly very sparsely armed, not rarely either completely unarmed or on the contrary armed with many thorns."

His description of the venation and the leaf base matches with that of Aneeta ji's photographs: "the nerves not converging towards the apex of the leaf, but remaining parallel from the middle of the leaf up to the apex of the same ... base acute or rounded and very unequal". Conversely, the leaf base of Z. xylopyrus is "often nearly cordate".

His notes are from the early 1950s and his remarks on the distribution of these two species (in the last paragraph of the attached file) are also very interesting.

The attached scan is from the paper "Critical Notes on the Identity and Nomenclature of some Bombay Plants: II. The Genus Zizyphus Mill." by H. Santapau. [JBNHS, vol. 51, p. 803 - 804, 1953].

Best wishes, Viplav

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