Names of Plants in India :: Name for Cassia fistula in Goan Konkani

[Dinesh Valke]

Dear friends from Goa, ... would like to get the local name "balo" in Devanagari script - name of Cassia fistula L.

Regards.

Dinesh

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please.

 

 

 

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[Ushadi Micromini]

Dinesh

i would be happy to type it up...

but ..
is hindi the vernacular of Goa

or is it Marathi...

name:

is it balo as in b only

not BAAA lo

and when one pronounces balo... is L the harsh L or is is it gujaratis and marathis also have rl lr as in baval which is a soft rl sound

please tell me

make a sound file and send it as mp3 i think its allowed in google groups

usha di

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[Dinesh Valke]

Thanks Garg ji for resurfacing the query.

Usha di ... my difficulty was not knowing how the word is pronounced. Therefore posted the query.

English transcribed word "balo" does not help people understand how it is actually pronounced.

All of the following listed transcribe as balo:

1. बलो
2. बालो
3. बलॉ
4. बळो
5. बाळो
6. बळॉ

Coincidentally, one of my cousins got help from her group in facebook, and it turns out to be बालो.

The meaning of बालो is gajra in Marathi, Hindi ...

The name does makes sense when we visualize the the pendulous inflorescence of Cassia fistula.

Thank you very much Usha di for your response.

Regards.

Dinesh

[Ushadi Micromini]

Dinesh
thanks for the clarification
and your diligence

so its hard L

and BAAA

good

usha di

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Usha di
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[Dinesh Valke]

No Usha di ... not hard L ... ल is soft L.

(ळ is hard L)

Regards.

Dinesh

[Ushadi Micromini]

Dinesh:
 well, my understanding is  different...
i may be wrong...

લ  versus  ળ in gujarati

pronounced hard versus soft respectively

just heard pronouncing marathi alphabets in  utube

Let's Learn Marathi - Alphabets - Mulakshare - मुळाक्षरे

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_0YSwM3kUs

ळ definitely sounded  soft to my ears

linguistics/ science  may be classifying it differently

my knowledge is:  phonetically it sounds soft

may be that's the difference

and I have never come across equivalent of ળ  ळ in bangla

learning never ends

so tell me about hard and soft differences

usha di

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Usha di
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[Dinesh Valke]

Apologies Usha di, my understanding about linguistics is limited.

I would say: ल in Marathi (and Hindi) is soft L ... just as you discussed earlier ... as in baval which is a soft rl sound.

Regards.

Dinesh

[Ushadi Micromini]

Dinesh

not to labor this point

but I just cant resist it ...

baval in gujarati at least is    બાવળ ...

where the l is soft pronounced... sounds like you are saying it half-heartedlty... sort of lingering sound...

not

બાવલ

where the L is definitely complete and hard sound

usha di

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Usha di
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[Dinesh Valke]

Usha di,

Not sure how બાવળ is pronounced in Gujarati.

Please find how  ल sounds in कमल OR जल

Regards.

Dinesh

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Neo ji.

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From: Neo Victor Rodrigues <nvict...@rediffmail.com>
Date: 7 December 2014 at 11:47
Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:207507] Names of Plants in India :: Name for Cassia fistula in Goan Konkani
To: jmg...@gmail.com


बाळो
ballo is pronounce as follows
'ba' as in bath
'll' as in english culled
'o' pronounced as awe

hope this was useful

Neo VictorRodrigues

On Fri, 05 Dec 2014 17:02:05 +0530 "J.M. Garg"
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>Forwarding again
for any assistance in the matter please.  
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Date: 29 November 2014 at 16:02
Subject: [efloraofindia:207507] Names of Plants in India :: Name for
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[Dinesh Valke]

Thanks Garg ji,

It is interesting to get variances of pronunciation for the word balo - local name in Goa for Cassia fistula.

Many thanks to Neo ji for providing the name in Devanagari, and also for the elaboration to help understand the pronunciation.

Regards.

Dinesh

[J.M. Garg]

Konkani name for Cassia fistula in Goan Konkani is Bhalo
Emilia Mascarenhas' goa

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[Dinesh Valke]

Thank you very much Garg ji.

Thank you very much, Emilia !!

Regards.

Dinesh