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Rajendra Karnik

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Mar 8, 2015, 8:25:15 AM3/8/15
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Hello friends,

Please confirm the id of this plant.

This plant may be Elaeocarpous serratus    or E.glandulosus

Photo taken from TMC garden Thane  pl. see attached file

Thanks.

rajank
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J.M. Garg

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Mar 18, 2015, 6:18:40 AM3/18/15
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

efi page on Elaeocarpus serratus & Elaeocarpus variablis . (Syn:  E. glandulosus sensu auctt.)
 
Elaeocarpus   species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available)                                      

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Mar 18, 2015, 6:31:05 AM3/18/15
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It looks a lot like Elaeocarpus ganitrus

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Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan

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Mar 18, 2015, 7:34:48 AM3/18/15
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Elaeocarpus hainanensis

radha veach

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Mar 18, 2015, 11:36:45 AM3/18/15
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This appears be a small tree with flowering branches close to the ground.

Elaeocarpus hainanensis seems to be correct: few flowered racemes, leaves clustered at ends of branches,

regards
Radha

Alka Khare

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Mar 19, 2015, 8:55:53 AM3/19/15
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Hello

I am taking the liberty of uploading pictures of the flowers of the same tree (I think) from the TMC garden (Dattaji Salvi Udyan, Kopri).

Could these pics help to nail the ID?

Thanks and regards
Alka Khare 
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J.M. Garg

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Mar 24, 2015, 12:16:59 AM3/24/15
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

It looks a lot like Elaeocarpus ganitrus
Navendu                                         

 Elaeocarpus hainanensis- from Santhan ji

This is Elaeocarpus angustifolius, (Blue Marble Tree) native to Australia and newly cultivated in Indian gardens. - from Shrikant ji

This appears be a small tree with flowering branches close to the ground.
Elaeocarpus hainanensis seems to be correct: few flowered racemes, leaves clustered at ends of branches,
regards 
Radha
I am taking the liberty of uploading pictures of the flowers of the same tree (I think) from the TMC garden (Dattaji Salvi Udyan, Kopri).
Could these pics help to nail the ID?
Thanks and regards
Alka Khare  

efi page on Elaeocarpus hainanensis & Elaeocarpus sphaericus (syn. (=) Elaeocarpus angustifolius Blume; (=) Elaeocarpus ganitrus Roxb. ex G. Don);


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Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan

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Mar 24, 2015, 12:26:22 AM3/24/15
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In Elaeocarpus sphaericus leaf shape is oblong, fruit is globose, whereas in Elaeocarpus hainanensis the leaf shape is elliptic, has acute tip, fruit also elliptic with pointed tip. I saw this tree growing in GKVK garden, Bangalore.

radha veach

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Mar 24, 2015, 2:18:06 AM3/24/15
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Santhan ji is correct.
In Elaeocarpus sphaericus the racemes have many flowers and leaves are more evenly spaced on branches. It will never flower when it is such a small tree.


navendu page

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Mar 24, 2015, 2:35:04 AM3/24/15
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Yes, the leaves are quite different from E. sphericus, this plant matches well with Elaeocarpus grandiflorus 

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Alka Khare

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Mar 31, 2015, 1:59:12 AM3/31/15
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It is a bit confusing for me...
It is not E. sphaericus, should we now take it as E. grandiflorus or E. hainanensis?

Thanks and regards
Alka Khare

J.M. Garg

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Oct 27, 2018, 4:49:34 AM10/27/18
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Taking it as Elaeocarpus grandiflorus as per efi thread:
E. grandiflorus is with broader leaf compared to those of E. hainanensis. 

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