Haplanthodes neilgherryensis

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Rajesh Sachdev

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Jan 14, 2009, 9:59:49 AM1/14/09
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Dinesh,
Remember to photograph it, when next time you go to SGNP or Karnala.
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Rajesh Sachdev
Wildlife Activist & Photographer
Mumbai, India.
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Dinesh Valke

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Jan 14, 2009, 10:14:29 AM1/14/09
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Sure Rajesh ...
Regards.

J.M. Garg

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Jan 14, 2009, 10:03:25 PM1/14/09
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This link from Flowersofindia says Haplanthodes neilgherryensis may actually be of Haplanthodes tentaculatus (Haplanthodes neilgherryensis could be an outdated name of Haplanthodes tentaculatus): http://www.flowersofindia.net/misc/errata.html 
 
Further links for Haplanthodes neilgherryensis Tentacled Haplanthodes, Niligiri HaplanthodesMarathi: निळा जकारा nila jakaraKonkani: वाढलें कालें किरायतें vhadlem kalem kiraytem): http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Tentacled%20Haplanthodes.html (flowersofindia link with desc.), http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2059695119/ (with some ver. names),

2009/1/14 Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com>



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Swaminathan, Prakash

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Jan 15, 2009, 2:45:56 AM1/15/09
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Is Rajesh's photograph shot at Karnala, Haplanthodes verticillataus or  Haplanthodes neilgheryensis ??? What are the major, easy to recognize differences ???
 
The attached pic was shot at karnala in December 2008 (not a very good one though...) and I identified it to be Haplanthodes verticillatus.
 
Please confirm if i.d is correct?
 
 
 

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Rajesh Sachdev

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Jan 15, 2009, 2:55:33 AM1/15/09
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Yes, i shot it at karnala just ten days back on the fort trail.

On 1/14/09, Swaminathan, Prakash <Prakash.S...@bg-group.com> wrote:
> Is Rajesh's photograph shot at Karnala, Haplanthodes verticillataus or
> Haplanthodes neilgheryensis ??? What are the major, easy to recognize
> differences ???
>
> The attached pic was shot at karnala in December 2008 (not a very good one
> though...) and I identified it to be Haplanthodes verticillatus.
>
> Please confirm if i.d is correct?
>
>
>
>
> Regards
> Prakash

> * +91 98675 08049


> *Prakash.S...@bg-group.com
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: indian...@googlegroups.com [mailto:indian...@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of J.M. Garg
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:33 AM
> To: Dinesh Valke
> Cc: Rajesh Sachdev; indian...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [indiantreepix:7589] Re: Haplanthodes neilgherryensis
>
>
> This link from Flowersofindia says Haplanthodes neilgherryensis may actually
> be of Haplanthodes tentaculatus

> <javascript:popup("../catalog/slides/Tentacled Haplanthodes.html")>


> (Haplanthodes neilgherryensis could be an outdated name of Haplanthodes
> tentaculatus): http://www.flowersofindia.net/misc/errata.html
>
> Further links for Haplanthodes neilgherryensis Tentacled Haplanthodes,
> Niligiri Haplanthodes • Marathi: निळा जकारा nila jakara • Konkani: वाढलें
> कालें किरायतें vhadlem kalem kiraytem):
> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Tentacled%20Haplanthodes.html
> (flowersofindia link with desc.),
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2059695119/ (with some ver.
> names),
>
>
> 2009/1/14 Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Sure Rajesh ...
> I do have some in my photostream at
> http://www.flickr.com/search/?s=int&w=91314344@N00&q=Haplanthodes+neilgherryensis&m=text
> Regards.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Rajesh Sachdev <leopa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dinesh,
> Remember to photograph it, when next time you go to SGNP or Karnala.
> --
> Regards
> Rajesh Sachdev
> Wildlife Activist & Photographer
> Mumbai, India.
> http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/wild_mumbai/

> www.rajesh-sachdev.blogspot.com <http://www.rajesh-sachdev.blogspot.com/>

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Rajesh Sachdev

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Jan 15, 2009, 2:56:46 AM1/15/09
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Yes, i shot it at karnala just ten days back on the fort trail.

On 1/14/09, Swaminathan, Prakash <Prakash.S...@bg-group.com> wrote:

> Is Rajesh's photograph shot at Karnala, Haplanthodes verticillataus or
> Haplanthodes neilgheryensis ??? What are the major, easy to recognize
> differences ???
>
> The attached pic was shot at karnala in December 2008 (not a very good one
> though...) and I identified it to be Haplanthodes verticillatus.
>
> Please confirm if i.d is correct?
>
>
>
>
> Regards
> Prakash

> * +91 98675 08049


> *Prakash.S...@bg-group.com
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: indian...@googlegroups.com [mailto:indian...@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of J.M. Garg
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:33 AM
> To: Dinesh Valke
> Cc: Rajesh Sachdev; indian...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [indiantreepix:7589] Re: Haplanthodes neilgherryensis
>
>
> This link from Flowersofindia says Haplanthodes neilgherryensis may actually
> be of Haplanthodes tentaculatus

> <javascript:popup("../catalog/slides/Tentacled Haplanthodes.html")>

> (Haplanthodes neilgherryensis could be an outdated name of Haplanthodes
> tentaculatus): http://www.flowersofindia.net/misc/errata.html
>
> Further links for Haplanthodes neilgherryensis Tentacled Haplanthodes,
> Niligiri Haplanthodes • Marathi: निळा जकारा nila jakara • Konkani: वाढलें
> कालें किरायतें vhadlem kalem kiraytem):
> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Tentacled%20Haplanthodes.html
> (flowersofindia link with desc.),
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2059695119/ (with some ver.
> names),
>
>
> 2009/1/14 Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Sure Rajesh ...
> I do have some in my photostream at
> http://www.flickr.com/search/?s=int&w=91314344@N00&q=Haplanthodes+neilgherryensis&m=text
> Regards.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Rajesh Sachdev <leopa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dinesh,
> Remember to photograph it, when next time you go to SGNP or Karnala.
> --
> Regards
> Rajesh Sachdev
> Wildlife Activist & Photographer
> Mumbai, India.
> http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/wild_mumbai/

> www.rajesh-sachdev.blogspot.com <http://www.rajesh-sachdev.blogspot.com/>

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Rajesh Sachdev

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Jan 15, 2009, 3:28:05 AM1/15/09
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I am unable to differentiate between both of them, can Dinesh put some light on matter?

2009/1/15 Swaminathan, Prakash <Prakash.S...@bg-group.com>

Dinesh Valke

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Jan 15, 2009, 6:25:21 AM1/15/09
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... will attempt to put a couple of visual differences that I perceive:


Bloom colour:
H. neilgherryensis:
cream (dull white with tone of blue), chocolate striated

H. verticillatus:
brillant blue, with the throat having colours blending from white - yellowish green - purple to the brilant blue on the lobes; fine purplish red venation gets pronounced when the flower is on the verge of loosing its glory.
 

¡¡ Tentacles !!
H. neilgherryensis:
the "tentacles" are branches (stem), hairy ... along with hairy creatures camouflaged
note that "tentacles" are curved towards the central stout stem, and each may further show branching.
 
H. verticillatus:
the "tentacles" are hairy leaves, and they bear a pair of spines at end (see them on your macro) 
these "tentacles" look reflexed ... curved towards ground
the whole look reminds bottle brush.
 

H. neilgherryensis is not much discussed on web ... and it could be synonym of H. tentaculatus.
 
Regards.
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JM Garg

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