Eravikulam National Park :: Rubus indicus

Dinesh Valke

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Jul 16, 2014, 2:19:33 PM7/16/14

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Eravikulam National Park

Date: June 4, 2014 ... Base elevation: 2000m asl

Rubus indicus Thunb. ... (family: Rosaceae)

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Dinesh

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Jul 16, 2014, 7:38:37 PM7/16/14

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Excellent photographs Dinesh ji

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Jul 17, 2014, 12:38:47 AM7/17/14

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Superb!!!

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Excellent pictures Dinesh Ji.

Did you try tasting the berries?

Aarti

Nidhan Singh

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Jul 17, 2014, 4:32:02 AM7/17/14

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Beautiful display!! Thanks Dinesh Ji...

Dinesh Valke

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Jul 17, 2014, 11:36:01 AM7/17/14

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Thank you very much Gurcharan ji and Garg ji.

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Dinesh Valke

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Jul 19, 2014, 5:32:50 AM7/19/14

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Thank you very much Aarti ji and Nidhan ji.

I did not try tasting the berries Aarti ji. I have never done that!

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Dinesh

On Thursday, July 17, 2014 9:06:01 PM UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote:

Thank you very much Gurcharan ji and Garg ji.
Regards.
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Superb!!!

On 16 July 2014 23:49, Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Eravikulam National Park
Date: June 4, 2014 ... Base elevation: 2000m asl

Rubus indicus Thunb. ... (family: Rosaceae)

Regards.
Dinesh

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Jul 19, 2014, 7:20:32 AM7/19/14

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Delicious posting Dinesh ji...

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Jul 19, 2014, 8:12:47 AM7/19/14

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Thank you, Muthu ji :-)

J.M. Garg

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Jul 28, 2014, 4:03:31 AM7/28/14

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Thanks, Dinesh ji.

Taxonomy of Rubus is very confusing.

I could not find any refrence on net (in books (old or new) or in efloras or in any good reliable source) for Rubus indicus Thunb.

This is really surprising.

As per JSTOR, Holotype of Rubus indicus Thunb. is stored under Rubus lasiocarpus Sm. = Rubus niveus Thunb.

Further there are three different Rubus indicus to confuse the matter as per The Plant List.

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Dinesh Valke

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Jul 28, 2014, 10:00:05 AM7/28/14

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Thanks Garg ji for the observations.

The ID is based on placard in the National Park. It says nothing about the author.
India Biodiversity Portal mentions Thunb.

I hope someone throws light and validates the author citation.

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Dinesh

J.M. Garg

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Jul 28, 2014, 10:38:38 AM7/28/14

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Bimal Sar kar <bima...@gmail.com>
Date: 28 July 2014 18:58
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:194222] Eravikulam National Park :: Rubus indicus :: DV02JUL
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

I find as many as 12 species of Rubus in Edible Wild plants of The Himalayas by R L Badhwar and Dr R R Fernandez .

In that book there is an image of Rubus moluccanus which is similar to the images sent by Dinesh ji.I have seen this

plant At Tezpur and I found the same plant at Cooch Behar.In the book I am referring there is no mention of Rubus indicus.

May be that book is of 1964 vintage, and there are lots of change since then.

Dinesh Valke

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Jul 28, 2014, 12:00:03 PM7/28/14

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Thanks Garg ji and Bimal ji.

As per India Biodiversity Portal the distribution of this plant is Kerala and Tamil Nadu. Thus there is possibility it may not be listed in Edible Wild plants of The Himalayas. Let us wait for more comments.

Regards.

Dinesh

J.M. Garg

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Jul 28, 2014, 11:55:17 PM7/28/14

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India Boidiversity portal has made pages on all accepted & unaccepted names.

Dinesh Valke

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Jul 29, 2014, 12:47:51 AM7/29/14

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Thank you Bimal ji and Garg ji.

It will be of great help if someone validates the synonymy of Rubus indicus and Rubus moluccanus.

Regards.

Dinesh

J.M. Garg

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Sep 4, 2016, 3:03:15 AM9/4/16

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Rubus moluccanus in view of discussions in the thread.

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