Anogeissus sp. FOR ID :: Rao Jodha Desert Rock Park :: 24 OCT 18

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Dinesh Valke

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Nov 6, 2018, 1:34:07 AM11/6/18
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... gully trail, Rao Jodha Desert Rock Park
Rao Jodha Desert Rock Park  Jodhpur
Date: October 24, 2018 ... Altitude: about 300 m (980 feet) asl

Anogeissus ¿ acuminata / latifolia ?  
Dear friends,
Please help me with validating the species of this Anogeissus, whether acuminata OR latifolia.
Anogeissus ¿ acuminata ?

Anogeissus ¿ acuminata ?

Anogeissus ¿ acuminata ?

Anogeissus ¿ acuminata ?

Anogeissus ¿ acuminata ?

Anogeissus ¿ acuminata ?

Anogeissus ¿ acuminata ?

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Dinesh

J.M. Garg

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Nov 8, 2018, 8:26:35 AM11/8/18
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Dinesh Valke

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Nov 8, 2018, 9:27:30 AM11/8/18
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Thanks Garg ji.I too think it could be acuminata; leaves of latifolia are rather large.
Let us wait for validating comments.
Regards.
Dinesh

J.M. Garg

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Nov 11, 2018, 11:19:14 PM11/11/18
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Thanks, Dinesh ji 

Tapas Chakrabarty

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Nov 12, 2018, 12:44:59 PM11/12/18
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Anogeissus acuminata.

Dinesh Valke

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Nov 12, 2018, 1:47:57 PM11/12/18
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Thank you very much Tapas ji for the ID.
Regards.
Dinesh

Dinesh Valke

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Nov 13, 2018, 3:25:41 AM11/13/18
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Dear Tapas ji and Garg ji,
I was going through internet again to check the distribution of acuminata VS pendula. I would like you reconsider the ID as Anogeissus pendula.
Regards.
Dinesh





Tapas Chakrabarty

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Nov 13, 2018, 4:49:09 AM11/13/18
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Dinesh ji,
Please look at the attachment. Here you have the keys to the species and varieties.
Now please decide yourself.
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Anogeissus - extract.pdf

Dinesh Valke

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Nov 13, 2018, 6:37:09 AM11/13/18
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Thank you very much Tapas ji, for the keys to Anogeissus species.
Somehow these keys do not show species found in Rajasthan - Anogeissus pendula and Anogeissus sericea var. nummularia.

Here is one document in JSTOR ...
Scott, A. (1979). A Revision of Anogeissus (Combretaceae). Kew Bulletin, 33(4), 555-566. doi:10.2307/4109799

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Dinesh

Saroj Kumar Kasaju

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Nov 13, 2018, 10:18:38 AM11/13/18
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Nice images Dinesh Ji!

Thank you Dinesh Ji!

Saroj Kasaju

Anogeissus acuminata.

Thanks, Dinesh ji 

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Dinesh Valke

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Nov 13, 2018, 10:31:25 AM11/13/18
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Many thanks Saroj ji.
Regards.
Dinesh

Anogeissus acuminata.

Thanks, Dinesh ji 

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J.M. Garg

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Dec 2, 2018, 12:26:19 AM12/2/18
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Hi, Dinesh ji,
There is lot of confusion about these in the literature. Pl. see discussions at Anogeissus acuminate
I have earlier considered at efi page based on GRIN (link of which may not be working now) as below:
Anogeissus acuminata (Roxb. ex DC.) Wall. ex Guill. & Perr.,  A. Guillemin et al., Fl. Seneg. tent. 1:280. 1832 (N. Wallich, Numer. List 142, no. 4014. 1831, nom. inval.) (Syn: (=) Anogeissus pendula Edgew.; (≡) Conocarpus acuminatus Roxb. ex DC. (basionym)) as per GRIN;

Though Catalogue of Life consider both these species as different.

Can we have keys from your JSTOR Link as I am unable to see these ?
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Dec 2, 2018, 12:32:15 AM12/2/18
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Tapas ji's attachment also agrees with GRIN in mentioning Anogeissus pendula Edgew. as a syn. of Anogeissus acuminata (Roxb. ex DC.) Wall. ex Guill. & Perr. and also gives details of Anogeissus sericea var. nummularia along with keys.
How much relevant is JSTOR publication of 1979 now ?

Dinesh Valke

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Dec 2, 2018, 12:54:58 AM12/2/18
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Thanks Garg ji and Tapas ji.
Indeed there is much confusion among Anogeissus spp. and their synonymies.
In some regional flora (of north-west) I could see A. pendula as a distinct species, and thus went on to label my photos.

But after Tapas ji provided extracts from his study and work, I would go with A. pendula as synonym of A. acuminata and label them accordingly.

I am not sure of JSTOR link; I have not given any link that I remember.

Regards.
Dinesh


Tapas Chakrabarty

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Dec 2, 2018, 4:35:48 AM12/2/18
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Please follow my paper on Combretaceae based on herbarium studies. This is the only authentic publication on Combretaceae in India available so far. 

J.M. Garg

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Dec 2, 2018, 5:59:56 AM12/2/18
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Thanks, Dinesh ji,
Pl. see your earlier reply in this thread:
"Thank you very much Tapas ji, for the keys to Anogeissus species.
Somehow these keys do not show species found in Rajasthan - Anogeissus pendula and Anogeissus sericea var. nummularia.
Here is one document in JSTOR ...
Scott, A. (1979). A Revision of Anogeissus (Combretaceae). Kew Bulletin, 33(4), 555-566. doi:10.2307/4109799
Regards.
Dinesh"

J.M. Garg

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Dec 2, 2018, 6:00:17 AM12/2/18
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Thanks a lot, Tapas ji.

Dinesh Valke

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Dec 2, 2018, 7:23:41 AM12/2/18
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Thanks Garg ji for pointing to JSTOR link which I had cited (however I completely forgot).
That link allows to read the document without any charges (one has to login either via Google account OR JSTOR account).
I have created a JSTOR account - it allows viewing / reading 5 documents per month - I think only if they are classified for free reading.
Such papers are not downloadable.

In any case, Tapas ji's paper on Combretaceae (in context of Indian subcontinent) has taken into account the "A Revision of Anogeissus (Combretaceae) by A. J. Scott".
Thus I am going with A. pendula as synonym of A. acuminata ... I have already labelled the pictures of posted plant accordingly.

Regards.
Dinesh

J.M. Garg

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Dec 2, 2018, 7:47:41 AM12/2/18
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Thanks a lot, Dinesh ji.

Tapas Chakrabarty

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Dec 2, 2018, 8:06:35 AM12/2/18
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I still agree that A. pendula is a synonym.

Dinesh Valke

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Dec 2, 2018, 10:31:30 AM12/2/18
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Thank you very much, Tapas ji.
Regards.
Dinesh
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