give priority to latin names

[chiara catalano]

Hi there,

I am new on iNaturalist and I am struggoling on how to give priority to the latin names also when common names are available. I mean in my observation list, tab or whatever I visualise species, I or others observe, I would like to read the latin name (so for instance, species are listed in alfabetical order according to the latin name and not to the common name). 

Is this possible?

thanks for your feedback!

Chiara

[Eric Hunt]

My memory is fuzzy and I am sure others will correct me if I am wrong, but I believe it is because iNaturalist tries to be more approachable to non-scientists, therefore common names are given a higher visibility.

I know our native plant society has to always give common names first and it's been made clear to those of us who prefer latin that this is a non-negotiable item.

-Eric

[Eric Hunt]

I also realize I didn't directly answer your question. I don't think there is a way to suppress common names on the site. Common names can be localized to a region, but I don't think you can suppress them entirely from the site when you are using it.

The nice thing I guess is that on the phone app the search function is pretty sweet and it will pull results based on any of the common names. There have certainly been times in the field when I couldn't remember the full scientific name but could remember a bit of the common name and that was enough to get the ID assigned.

Thanks,

-Eric

On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5, chiara catalano wrote:

[Charlie Hohn]

as someone who works with both common and scientific names, I am just used to seeing them together with the scientific nae second. If i'm looking for the scientific name i just don't even notice the common name there anymore

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[James Bailey]

For a community standpoint common names are important. I can vouch that people are quickly turned off by scientific names. We don't want people running from iNaturalist where possible.

If you intend to work with anyone besides experts, it is good to familiarize yourself with both names. Or in this case, have both displayed.

[Charlie Hohn]

If anything Inaturalist reduces my need to worry about common names because I can enter the scientific name and the common name automatically connects. 

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For a community standpoint common names are important. I can vouch that people are quickly turned off by scientific names. We don't want people running from iNaturalist where possible.

If you intend to work with anyone besides experts, it is good to familiarize yourself with both names. Or in this case, have both displayed.

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[Francisco Gálvez]

I think, scientific name must be first on all the places that it's displayed, it's like a kind of unique id. Common names may differ between different places, or it depends from the people. I suggest use first the latin name (it's the scientific name!) and common name in parenthesis (and you can't use only one common name, because you will have a lot of commons names that differ in language...) I know you think that common name will be next to the people, but it will end in confusions... 

[Jon Sullivan]

I've been happy enough with the common name listed first followed by the scientific name. As long as they're both there.

Many more people can name common species using the local common name than the scientific name. I see that as sufficient justification to list the common name first.

Note that different regions of the world on iNat can set different preferred common names for the same taxon, which is useful.

Cheers,

Jon

[Mark Rosenstein]

As of a few months ago, iNat often does not show the scientific names.  While I would like to have it displayed first, having it displayed at all would be a lot better than what we have now.  In the new photo uploader, and in the identification page, the scientific names are not displayed.  I've had a lot of trouble with incorrect IDs since then.

-Mark

[Steve Hummel]

I also prefer scientific names, mostly due to my interest in Odonata. I first stated working with this insect order in 1969 and there were only a handful of common names, so I learned all the species by scientific names and so it remained for about 35 years. About 12 years ago common names were proposed for  the North American species. I don't submit records to iNaturalist, but do help with ids of odonates in SD and IA. I do enter scientific names and it adds the common names, but I would prefer species be listed by family then scientific name then common name.
I vet records on OdonataCentral which list records by scientific names first then common, but submitters can use either common or scientific names. It then gives scientific names priority.

On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5, chiara catalano wrote: