Is Idempiere the right ERP for my company

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Andreas Keller

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Apr 5, 2016, 10:44:09 AM4/5/16
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Hello everybody,

I'm thinking about a new ERP for my company. 
Idempiere is one possibility :-)

A few things I couldn't evaluate yet.

- As a plant manufacturer the Bill of Material is very important for us. It must be created very fast and must contain products with a product number and also products without a number. Is this possible or already handled by some companies?

- An integrated accounting is very Important for us. An we need the possibility to create partial invoices. Is this implemented by core or is there an Plugin to do this?

Is there an  plant manufacturer or building company with I/Adempiere implemented in Germany?

Thanks for your answers.
Greetings
Andreas

Antoni Ten Monrós

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Apr 5, 2016, 11:52:49 AM4/5/16
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On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 4:44:09 PM UTC+2, Andreas Keller wrote:
Hello everybody,

I'm thinking about a new ERP for my company. 
Idempiere is one possibility :-)

Good. You should consider the features and alternatives before deciding, as a bad choice will be both time consuming and costly
 
A few things I couldn't evaluate yet.

- As a plant manufacturer the Bill of Material is very important for us. It must be created very fast and must contain products with a product number and also products without a number. Is this possible or already handled by some companies?

There are multiple ways to handle "product numbers" in iDempiere:
- Using Search key field in the product (40 chars)
-- Freeform field, automatically assigns numbers if you don't assign a number yourself
- Using the UPC field in the product (30 chars), normally reserved for barcodes
- Using the SKU field in the product (30 chars), used to any alternate numbering/coding system

In all cases, products can be given an alphanumeric identifier. Search key is used to search for the product, and is mandatory. If you're going to select/input the product using the product number, then it's the field that is most amenable to this. If you need to keep a secondary numbering/coding scheme for those product with product number from legacy systems, then using the SKU field is probably best.
 
- An integrated accounting is very Important for us. An we need the possibility to create partial invoices. Is this implemented by core or is there an Plugin to do this?

Others will give you ore details on the accounting side of iDempiere, but what do you mean with partial invoices? It can be understood in the following ways:
- Having an order that includes multiple items and shipments, and only invoicing shipped products? No problem
- Having an invoice with split payments (30-60 for example)? No problem
- Having multiple invoices for an order, but unrelated to the items (like an initial invoice for 50% of the order, and a second invoice for the rest, with a different due date?), meaning that there's split payment, but each payment has it's own invoice? AFAIK problematic.
 
Is there an  plant manufacturer or building company with I/Adempiere implemented in Germany?

I think that Evenos is a German iDempiere implementer, so maybe they can help you there.
 
Thanks for your answers.
Greetings
Andreas

Yours 
Antoni Ten

Andreas Keller

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Apr 5, 2016, 12:28:32 PM4/5/16
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Hello,

For us an partial invoice means the last point. We have an order for example building a house. And then we write an invoice like 20% of the order, then 30% at the beginning of the assembly and the last 50% after completing the house. And the date where the invoice is written depents on the progress on the construction site.

Yours 
Andreas

HansAnton Riess

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Apr 5, 2016, 12:50:49 PM4/5/16
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Hi Andreas,

We use Idempiere (migrated from Adempiere 370) for about 3 Years.

Your requirements regarding BOM, partial invoices and accounting are covered in Idempiere.

We use German accounting plan based on SKR04 from Datev.

Regard

Hans
Germany

Antoni Ten Monrós

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Apr 6, 2016, 2:46:58 AM4/6/16
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On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 6:28:32 PM UTC+2, Andreas Keller wrote:
Hello,

For us an partial invoice means the last point. We have an order for example building a house. And then we write an invoice like 20% of the order, then 30% at the beginning of the assembly and the last 50% after completing the house. And the date where the invoice is written depents on the progress on the construction site.

Yours 
Andreas

 So a single invoice with split payment would not suit you, right?

They ways we handle this (not sure if it's the best ways) is to either
- Have lines on the order with both negative and positive prices representing the payments (so you have a line that says "20% on order", X and a line that says "Amount already paid" -X). You then ship and invoice only the first line(s).
- You manually create invoices unrelated to any orders the the amounts payable, and add to the final invoice a line that says "amount already paid" -X

Again, there are solutions, they're more like workarounds that require manual intervention, but then again this is impossible to automate, since the dates are not known in advance.

HansAnton Riess, how do you handle this?

HansAnton Riess

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Apr 6, 2016, 1:52:00 PM4/6/16
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You can use the project functionality and create the partial invoices within project tasks.

So you have good traceability and accounting can use project as a dimension.

If this is not enough than you can create a custom plugin which will work as you specify.

Creating of this type of plugin is not very time consuming


Regards

Hans

Patric

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Apr 7, 2016, 2:47:18 AM4/7/16
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Hi Andreas,

we use iDempiere since version 1.0 with the full accounting for german needs and with a complete new accounting solution in 3.1. For the german accounting you have to do some things.(You need in some cases a plugin)
But iDempiere has enough flexibility to solve the german accounting in different ways. The next important thing is the financial reporting and iDempiere has here different ways to help you.
Also for partial invoices, as example based on deliveries.

Best regards
Patric
(Hans Auler GmbH)

Andreas Keller

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Apr 7, 2016, 2:58:20 AM4/7/16
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Hello everybody,

Thats sounds quiet interessting. Now I have to go deeper in Idempiere to test it.

Another thing I haven't found is the possibility to handle the time recording. Every employee hour must cause costs on an project/order.
How can this be implemented? I haven't found it in the online demo. Is the Plugin "Libero Payroll" the solution for this?

We have employees in the office, in the production and on the construction site. And I want a solution that offers me the possibility to control the hours every time!
Does someone have hardwareterminals in use for the time recording? Which are the best and easiest way to connect with Idempiere?


Thanks
Andreas

redhuan d. oon

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Apr 7, 2016, 11:46:58 AM4/7/16
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You can use a Resource Product that has UOM set to Hour, Minute or Seconds. You need not use Libero as Resource Product is a core design since Compiere days.

Andreas Keller

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Apr 9, 2016, 11:53:28 AM4/9/16
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We have employees in the office, in the production and on the construction site. And I want a solution that offers me the possibility to control the hours every time!
Does someone have hardwareterminals in use for the time recording? Which are the best and easiest way to connect with Idempiere?

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