Magnetic generator by Infinity SAV

[Manu Sharma]

A South Korean company, with what seems to be Russian developers, has developed a magnetic engine that is available for pre-order on their website. Their 10 KW model has been thoroughly tested and a 5 KW model is undergoing testing. It starts with a small charge but doesn't require any electricity after that. Can be operated for 8000 hours until requiring minor maintenance

What is notable is that they have received a US patent. As you may know the US patent office has historically refused applications of perpetual motion devices. CleanTech Alliance reports in a post from two years ago:

 

Infinity SAV USA recently acquired a US patent, in a transaction valued at over $3 million, that protects its generator technology that “produces several times more power than it takes to operate”. The generator is powered solely by permanent magnets. Infinity’s US Patent 7,095,126 B2 is the first patent issued for a motor and generator/alternator feedback loop combination that continuously produces excess energy.

The company is appointing distributors across the world that get exclusive country rights. The pre-order placed on their website will be fulfilled by the distributor of the country as and when mass production begins. No payment is to be made for placing a pre-order. They have received over 1100 pre-orders so far.

Infinity SAV has a bunch of other products on their website that are equally disruptive - air conditioner, boiler and a water desalination device - all involving magnetics in one form or another.

https://infinitysav.com/

A magnetic source of electricity has been talked about by Kryon since 2010 and in December 2019 was confirmed to be imminent. I described it in a blog post in January.

Manu

[Ajay Chandak]

It's a perpetual machine and hoax claim. Patent does not ensure scientific correctness. This has been business of few people who collect money and disappear overnight. 

If the claim is true, the company does not need to do anything, licensing parent to any major energy company will make the Innovator richest man on planet. 

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[Rangan Banerjee]

Surprising, Iread the patent. It clearly violates the laws of thermodynamics.
Has the patent not been challenged?
Regards,
Rangan

It's a perpetual machine and hoax claim. Patent does not ensure scientific
> correctness. This has been business of few people who collect money and
> disappear overnight.
> If the claim is true, the company does not need to do anything, licensing
> parent to any major energy company will make the Innovator richest man on
> planet.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2020, 20:21 Manu Sharma <orang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A South Korean company, with what seems to be Russian developers, has
>> developed a magnetic engine that is available for pre-order on their
>> website. Their 10 KW model has been thoroughly tested and a 5 KW model
>> is
>> undergoing testing. It starts with a small charge but doesn't require
>> any
>> electricity after that. Can be operated for 8000 hours until requiring
>> minor maintenance
>>
>> What is notable is that they have received a US patent. As you may know
>> the US patent office has historically refused applications of perpetual
>> motion devices. CleanTech Alliance reports in a post from two years ago

>> <https://www.cleantechalliance.org/2018/01/16/infinity-sav-usa-acquires-patent-for-excess-energy-generator/>
>> :
>>
>>
>>> *Infinity SAV USA recently acquired a US patent, in a transaction

>>> valued
>>> at over $3 million, that protects its generator technology that
>>> “produces
>>> several times more power than it takes to operate”. The generator is
>>> powered solely by permanent magnets. Infinity’s US Patent 7,095,126
>>> B2 is
>>> the first patent issued for a motor and generator/alternator feedback
>>> loop

>>> combination that continuously produces excess energy.*

>>>
>>
>> The company is appointing distributors across the world that get
>> exclusive
>> country rights. The pre-order placed on their website will be fulfilled
>> by

>> the distributor of the country as and when mass production begins. *No
>> payment is to be made for placing a pre-order.* They have received over

>> 1100 pre-orders so far.
>>
>> Infinity SAV has a bunch of other products on their website that are
>> equally disruptive - air conditioner, boiler and a water desalination
>> device - all involving magnetics in one form or another.
>>
>> https://infinitysav.com/
>>
>> A magnetic source of electricity has been talked about by Kryon since
>> 2010
>> and in December 2019 was confirmed to be imminent. I described it in a
>> blog
>> post

>> <http://blog.orangehues.com/2020/01/kryon-says-free-energy-is-here-heralds.html>

>> in January.
>>
>> Manu
>>
>>
>>
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[Manu Sharma]

I can't write authoritatively on these matters but my impression and newfound understanding is that the law of thermodynamics and much else in classical mechanics is not set in stone as is commonly believed and accepted as long as scientists are unable to reconcile theory of relativity with quantum mechanics. The conflict between the two had deeply troubled Einstein and he was unable to resolve it. 

We have had close to a century and we are still unable to explain sub-atomic phenomenon like quantum entanglement. If we look at the other end, on cosmological scale, science has no clue how to explain dark matter or dark energy which makes up 96% of the universe. Would you give passing grade to a student that scores just 4% in exam?

This may seem like broad sweeping statement but I think science needs a bit of humility. It needs to drop the pretense that it has been able to explain everything. This is not to say that its accomplishments are unimpressive but just that it has made humanity a little bit arrogant. 

I leave you with excerpts from the book Quantum Enigma by respected quantum physicists, the late Bruce Rosenblum and Fred Kuttner:

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It would be many years before I understood Einstein’s concern with the mysterious implications of quantum theory. I did not know that back in 1935 he had startled the developers of quantum theory by pointing out that the theory required an observation at one place to instantaneously influence what happened far away without involving any physical force. He derided this as “spooky action” that could not actually exist.

Einstein was also bothered by the theory’s claim that if you observed a small object, an atom, say, to be someplace, it was your looking that caused it to be there. Does that apply to big things? In principle, yes. [...]

Quantum theory is stunningly successful. Not a single one of the theory’s predictions has ever been shown wrong. One-third of our economy depends on products based on it. However, the worldview demanded by quantum theory is not only stranger than we might suppose, it’s stranger than we can suppose. Let’s see why.

Most of us share these commonsense intuitions: A single object can’t be in two far-apart places at once. And, surely, what someone decides to do here cannot instantly affect what happens someplace far away. And doesn’t it go without saying that there’s a real world “out there,” whether or not we look at it? Quantum mechanics challenges each of these intuitions. J. M. Jauch tells us: “For many thoughtful physicists, [the deeper meaning of quantum mechanics] has remained a kind of skeleton in the closet.” [...]

Erwin Schrödinger, a founder of modern quantum theory, told his famous cat story to emphasize that quantum theory says something “absurd.” Schrödinger’s unobserved cat, according to quantum theory, was simultaneously dead and alive until your observation of it causes it to be either dead or alive. Here’s something even harder to accept: Finding the cat dead creates the history of its developing rigor mortis. Finding it alive creates the history of its developing hunger. Backward in time.

The enigma posed by quantum theory has challenged physicists for eight decades.
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"I have thought a hundred times as much about the quantum problem as I have about general relativity theory."

— Albert Einstein

Manu

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[Mahendra Shah Y 7xLSS]

Hello Manu, 

Thanks for enlghtening explanations. And references. 

Does green-india have blogposting with Open  discusion forum?

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[Ajay Chandak]

Patent can be granted if the examiner finds it innovative and misses the scientific principle. Any way who will challenge the patent? Nobody's business interest are harmed. People who know this is hoax, will just ignore; they won't spend time and money on challenging this. However these fraudsters cash in on ignorance of people projecting these patents as credentials. I know one such fraud in case of "Sun Cubes". Forums like these should not promote such hoax. This is not even worth a debate.

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