On Nov 13, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Eric Mill <
er...@konklone.com> wrote:
> However, one thing it doesn't seem to address is how rights are handled internationally. The government team I'm on (18F) uses CC0, and that's in part because we want to make sure that contributors and users from anywhere in the world have the same experience and legal certainties that contributors and users in the US have.
Things are really simple for US Gov’t works internationally… The Gov’t has rights to the software, international copyright protection, and could offer software under literally any license it desires (that does not violate regulation, ITAR, yada yada), just NOT a licensed based on copyright law in the US due to the copyright protection exemption.
The FPL does not assert or require copyright rights are held on the work — that’s the novel aspect that makes it unique from every other OSI-approved license. It simply asserts that the permission is bestowed to the recipient. The Gov’t does have rights, even domestically. They’re just usually covered by federal regulation or (more conventionally) have distribution controlled under contract law and disclosure agreements.
I don’t see this new FPL being any less uncertain internationally than the ISC/MIT/BSD licenses. At least to my knowledge, this class of permissive licensing has not been demonstrated as problematic in any court, domestic or international. To the contrary, the mere act of removing the copyright statement allows this license to stand on other (unstated) rights — e.g., related or neighboring rights as CC0 specifies. That is incredibly convenient…
> The converse is also an issue -- in the US, government works are public domain no matter what license the software project wants to use. The FPL starts with "Permission...is hereby granted.", but in the US, a government team doesn't hold copyright that lets them grant this permission.
You may know this already, but that’s not the whole picture or entirely true. US Gov’t works are covered under a mixture of federal regulation in the US and copyright law (Berne Convention) outside the US. Sure, the US Gov’t can’t claim copyright (in the US), but they may be assigned and hold US copyright rights, e.g., under a FARS/DFARS contract. Even works that were 100% Gov’t-employee-performing-their-duties, the US Gov’t has international copyright protection and a complex set of regulatory rights and releasability protections in the US.
Of course, the legal team of different agencies will undoubtedly have verying appetites for releasing a work under the FPL, but I bet I could have gotten BRL-CAD released MUCH faster had this existed back in the late 90’s… There is beauty and complexity in the overt simplicity. :)
Cheers!
Sean
p.s. CC0 certainly has similar features and desirability (love it and use it myself) but is lamentably not yet OSI-certified. CC withdrew it from consideration after extended discussion surrounding the patent clause. I’m not alone wishing they’d resubmit it for certification, with or without addressing the concerns OSI raised.