The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published

[Joonas Lehtinen]

The GWT community have been having many questions about the Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the competition? Should I build my next project with GWT?

When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all of this together and are proud to present you with some answers in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone who participated: You - the very active GWT community who answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin team and David Booth who coordinated the effort.

Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT Report at:

https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012

[Jeffrey Chimene]

My friend, Marge Innovera, wishes you would mention her in the report.

Cheers,
jec

[AJ]

Thank you for releasing these results.

However, I find it disconcerting and somewhat ominous that Vaadin is using this survey as a marketing tool.

It would have been preferable, in my opinion, if the report had been released as a direct link in the notification email I received, instead of sending me to a Vaadin marketing page with a form to request an email that contains a link to download the report. The community is already concerned about the future of GWT since it was released as open source. Linking it so closely Vaadin does not quiet those concerns.

[Andy]

I agree 100%. I will be sharing it internally, but I will not tweet/etc about a report that requires people to share their email with Vaadin to download a PDF.

That said, thank you Joonas for putting this together. I appreciate the work you guys do. I just disagree with how this is being delivered.

[Oliver Krylow]

Compiling such a report and making it that well readable and appealing takes time and effort (in short, money). The least they can have for that is having their colours and logo in front of it.

I care about the decisions the commitee is going to make and not about tiny stuff like "who gets to take front seat".

- Oliver

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[Andy]

Well, I agree with you as well. In short, branding/logo is ok. Hiding it behind an email collection page is less ok.

[Joonas Lehtinen]

I hope that giving name/email for downloading the report is not a big deal. If it is, just give a fake name and a temporary email address - we do not mind :)

But because the 2nd part of the report (GWT wishlist) is not yet ready, one might want to hold on to that temporary email for a while or so. We'll send an update when the wishlist is online.

- Joonas

[Andy]

I really don't care that much. I was just providing feedback. You have my name and email. May you generate many new leads!

[Jeffrey Chimene]

To answer my own question:
n = 1349
Simple margin of error @ 95% confidence interval is +-2%

Caveat: Since the respondents were self-selecting, the sample is not random, so this simple MoE calculation is not accurate

[Benjamin DeLillo]

There's a mention about "very good tools for automated tests, such as Jucikito" but Google doesn't find anything for Jucikito, is there a typo? I'd love to know what this "very good tool" is exactly.

[nicolas marchais]

Maybe it's Jukito : http://code.google.com/p/jukito/

[Clint Gilbert]

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Yeah, the email-collection page is obnoxious, though I suppose I
understand why it's there. I should point out that mailinator.com is
made for exactly this situation. You provide any address at
mailinator.com, then browse to http://mailinator.com to check messages
sent to that address with no signup or password check. Messages stay
around for a short time, maybe 30-60 minutes.

On 12/04/2012 10:30 AM, AJ wrote:
> Thank you for releasing these results.
>
> However, I find it disconcerting and somewhat ominous that Vaadin
> is using this survey as a marketing tool. It would have been
> preferable, in my opinion, if the report had been released as a
> direct link in the notification email I received, instead of
> sending me to a Vaadin marketing page with a form to request an
> email that contains a link to download the report. The community is
> already concerned about the future of GWT since it was released as
> open source. Linking it so closely Vaadin does not quiet those
> concerns.
>
> On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 9:25:55 AM UTC-5, jchimene wrote:
>
> On 12/4/2012 4:19 AM, Joonas Lehtinen wrote:

>> *The GWT community have been having many questions about the

>> Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT
>> used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the
>> competition? Should I build my next project with GWT?
>>
>> When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include
>> a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In
>> the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after
>> 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of
>> questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all
>> of this together and are proud to present you with some answers
>> in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone
>> who participated: You - the very active GWT community who
>> answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts
>> who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin
>> team and David Booth who coordinated the effort.
>>
>> Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT

>> Report at:* * https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012
>> <https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012> *

>
> My friend, Marge Innovera, wishes you would mention her in the
> report.
>
> Cheers, jec
>

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[James]

I am evaluating a chart library for my incoming project. I can not find any information about chart library for GWT. Is it included in the next report? I am trying to find the most popular chart library for GWT.


James

[Drew Spencer]

I agree with the others who think the email address requirement is a little over the top. You'd spread more copies by making it free, but I guess you want emails.

[Ryan Shillington]

I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to make this so consumable.  I found it very interesting to read.  If getting my (spam-me-as-much-as-you-want) email was the cost, I'd pay that again happily.  

Whoever put this together did a very, very good job.  If this had been a big table of numbers I wouldn't have learned as much.

Thanks again,

Ryan

[Ali Jalal]

Many thanks to Vaadin, Steering Committee and GWT community for such a useful report.

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[RAlfoeldi]

This survey is based on data collected from GWT users and should be available to all users without registering with a company I am not interested in doing business with. If this is the type of "community building" we have to expect for the future... good luck, without me.

And then... try commenting on their web page, log in with your google account. They actually want access to your google contacts. WTF? This seems to be a general problem with Vaadin.

[maticpetek]

I would also like to thank all that prepare this survey & result and all the members of Steering Committee. It will help us with how to use GWT in feature. And it confirm we are not alone with out problems ;)

Regards,

  Matic

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[Drew Spencer]

Here here. We're meant to be building an open source community. Open, free, for everyone. Please make the pdf available on a public link so we can download it anonymously.

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[Sebastián Gurin]

mine http://code.google.com/p/raphael4gwt/ has support for some charts types of graphael like bar, pie, line, grid, sunburst, radar, etc.- See the demo: http://cancerbero.vacau.com/gwt/graphael4gwtGallery