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Vivek Puri

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Aug 1, 2011, 10:03:18 AM8/1/11
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Is it possible to migrate AppEngine group to Stackoverflow or a white
label solution - http://stackexchange.com/ . It is becoming impossible
to search anything meaningful and identify top threads in the current
form of the group. Any good solutions provided are buried quickly
below getting stated kind of questions or daily issue related
questions. Also, any important announcements made by AppEngine team
are hard to locate and best answers to questions are hard to validate.

Kaan Soral

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Aug 1, 2011, 3:49:21 PM8/1/11
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+1

On Aug 1, 5:03 pm, Vivek Puri <v...@vivekpuri.com> wrote:
> Is it possible to migrate AppEngine group to Stackoverflow or a white
> label solution -http://stackexchange.com/. It is becoming impossible

Ikai Lan (Google)

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Aug 1, 2011, 8:56:51 PM8/1/11
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We considered doing this a year and a half ago. I'll talk to the team and see what the enthusiasm level is on this.

The Android team does this and, at least last I heard, they were pretty happy with it. I'll see what they think of it now.

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Nick Johnson (Google)

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Aug 1, 2011, 9:02:13 PM8/1/11
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In the meantime, it's worth noting that there's a thriving community of App Engine askers and answerers on Stack Overflow, including myself.

-Nick Johnson
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Robert Kluin

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Aug 1, 2011, 11:35:39 PM8/1/11
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I think the two medias are good for different types of questions.
Personally, I think stackoverflow is not as good for questions needing
or benefitting from discussion.

MLTrim

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Aug 2, 2011, 2:56:21 AM8/2/11
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StackOverflow is perfect to handle technical questions but the other
types of discussion do not fit very well and are not well accepted on
SO.
Speaking about Android, the tag on SO is pretty florid and crowded but
with some quality problem (http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/
100529/help-us-clean-up-the-android-tag) .

michele
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On Aug 2, 5:35 am, Robert Kluin <robert.kl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think the two medias are good for different types of questions.
> Personally, I think stackoverflow is not as good for questions needing
> or benefitting from discussion.
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:03, Vivek Puri <v...@vivekpuri.com> wrote:
> > Is it possible to migrate AppEngine group to Stackoverflow or a white
> > label solution -http://stackexchange.com/. It is becoming impossible

Johan Euphrosine

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Aug 2, 2011, 4:44:18 AM8/2/11
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I created a quick poll for tracking the community feeling about this.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEFERTJWTTJxZEZ1dU91VXFvUFpzVnc6MQ

Feel free to keep the discussion going in this thread.

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Rodrigo Moraes

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Aug 2, 2011, 4:57:39 AM8/2/11
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+1

Objective questions have reduced usefulness here, as there's more noise and they get lost with time. SO's peer review forces people to stay on topic, thus reducing noise and making questions more "reusable". 

The group is better for less objective discussions, of course.

-- rodrigo

Gary Frederick

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Aug 2, 2011, 8:42:49 AM8/2/11
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I was forced to vote for Groups over Stackoverflow. My real vote is both.

Stackoverflow is ok for a focused question that does not get booted
Groups are better if you have a question that does not fit into the criteria for Stackoverflow
or you are more having a conversation.

I do a lot with Google's App Inventor groups. We looked a bit at Stackoverflow a while ago and it did not fit.
  we get a lot more less technical types there...

and I have failed to check my Stackoverflow account in a while. It was not encouraging to me to see how much karma I would have to build in a place with limited use to me to add the pages or whatever they call them to get the App Inventor info there to where it should be to be useful. I wanted to be able to point back to the Google forums and those messages got crushed by the SO cops...

and

your milage may differ :-)

Gary

Ikai Lan (Google)

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Aug 2, 2011, 5:29:17 PM8/2/11
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So I saw this in my Google Alerts earlier, and I thought, what the heck, people ask development questions on Yahoo Answers?


Can someone with a Yahoo account point him here? I realized that I haven't logged into Yahoo in years and can't seem to remember my password.

FWIW, I've always though Yahoo Answers was for questions like this:


(I'm joking, of course. I've been in some pretty idiotic Google Groups. It's the people; not the technology.)

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Robert Kluin

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Aug 2, 2011, 5:43:43 PM8/2/11
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Had never saw funnyyahooquestions.com before. There goes another hour.

As a side note, if this was a SO question we'd have to downvote your
answer for being off topic. :P

Ikai Lan (Google)

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Aug 2, 2011, 5:53:00 PM8/2/11
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Welcome to Knowing Me In Real Life. =)

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Stephen Johnson

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Aug 2, 2011, 6:04:54 PM8/2/11
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It is done.

Vivek Puri

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Aug 3, 2011, 3:56:21 PM8/3/11
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Most of the ideas and answers(objective and discussion categorization)
here are great. To give an example, yesterday i needed to know if
regex is supported in objective c. First search on google lead to this
-

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/422138/regular-expressions-in-an-objective-c-cocoa-application

And in 2 mins, i knew what was needed to be known. Any similar answers
given here by Ikai, Nick or Robert are just lost. This is a big waste
on part of everyone who is contributing.

Just to add. Few days back i wanted to get to a particular comment on
the post where Pricing changes were announced, and it took me quite a
bit of searches and keyword combination that resulted in nothing.
Eventually i had to email AppEngine team for information.

Gopal Patel

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Aug 3, 2011, 11:08:48 PM8/3/11
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AFAIK , questions are filtered based on ontopic or offtopic and not if they are technological or not. so if there is a different category for appengine, I think most of the related question can be answered there, and they need not be a technological question. 

Johan Euphrosine

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Aug 5, 2011, 12:04:40 PM8/5/11
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Just computed the result for the poll:

Where should the community post and answer technical questions ?
- Stack Overflow 55%
- Google Groups 45%
- 40 votes

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pdknsk

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Aug 5, 2011, 12:39:12 PM8/5/11
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Merci! Votre réponse a été enregistrée.

I wonder why it's French.
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