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On Nov 24, 2016, at 7:42 PM, Brian Ketelsen <bket...@gmail.com> wrote:
Personally I like getting my Go (and Ruby, climbing, StarCitizen, EliteDangerous, VR and robotics) news there. I'm no fan of Reddit overall, but for me, and I suspect a number of the other people who use the sub, it works well for what we use it for.
Maybe we should consider upgrading golang.org to a more useful website? Includes a list of meetups, maybe even suggest it based on geoip, add some more blog posts, be it from the team or guest posts, show cases from the community, success stories and so on?
We have a forum, https://forum.golangbridge.org, which can be use to replace the sub-reddit as well as a Slack team and an IRC channel. Make them more visibile on golang.org and encourage people to use any of them.
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At least, don't make the decision without waiting for reasonable feedback after the holiday.
Jon
Are all 25,171 subscribers scum and villainy? As a someone that reads /r/golang I've somehow managed not to come to the same conclusion.
I don't believe technical forum moderators should be abusing their position to project their ethical standpoints onto users. If users don't like Reddit, they can just not participate. If the moderators don't like it, step down.
I admit my Reddit knowledge is a bit out of date, but I thought/think Reddit IS open source?
https://github.com/reddit/reddit
(I'm 100% in support of not having a subreddit)
Best regards,
Craig
As one of the 25,000 who is also appalled by the CEO's behavior I full support the decision of the official forum moderators to want to leave Reddit.
I suggest making it private and moderated and effectively closing it. If something else springs up, all well and good.
-- Charlea
This would be an incredibly immature and materially harmful thing to do to the Go community.If you want to wash your hands of the group, do so, but don't burn down the house the rest of us are living in.
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In light of the CEO of Reddit admitting to editing user comments (see dozen news stories today), I propose we delete the /r/golang subreddit.
In light of the CEO of Reddit admitting to editing user comments (see dozen news stories today), I propose we delete the /r/golang subreddit.
Kill it.It's a wretched hive of scum and villainy. The Go subreddit was the only thing similar to human and it is downright painful most of the time.
On 11/24/2016 6:54:25 PM, Brad Fitzpatrick <brad...@golang.org> wrote:
[+bketelson, dgryski]
On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Brad Fitzpatrick <brad...@golang.org> wrote:In light of the CEO of Reddit admitting to editing user comments (see dozen news stories today), I propose we delete the /r/golang subreddit.That is so beyond unethical and immature, I no longer want anything to do with that site. I will be deleting my account on Reddit after backing up my content, and I will no longer be a moderator of /r/golang.If other moderators of /r/golang feel strongly that it should remain, I suppose you're welcome to keep it going.But if the other moderators want to abandon it and focus our conversation elsewhere (or build a replacement), I'm happy to just delete /r/golang.Opinions?
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Please don't.
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Seriously if the community is really a community then it will pop up in another form. If not then it was never really a community to begin with.
I agree with Brad that this isn't something I want to condone. In fact if people stopped using services with mgmt like this more often then crap like this might disappear. We vote with our feet I say.
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On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 10:20 AM Konstantin Khomoutov <flat...@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2016 23:59:18 -0800 (PST)
Ainar Garipov <gugl.z...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please no. Google Groups is awful, Reddit's /r/golang is where I get
> most of my Go news. I don't want to sift through a forum with no
> voting system, and awful and slow overly-JS-ed design.
On a side note I continue to wonder why people struggle with crappy web
stuff when they can just subscribe to this mailing list and get mail
from it into their mailbox, and read/write mails there using convenient
mail reader (with proper threads, searching tagging custom mail folders
and so on).
Google Groups is just a web front-end for those dirt-old but trusty
mailing lists of the 90's ;-)
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Strategically, I think deleting it does more harm than good.
I get that sometimes principles should trump practicality, but this specific problem seems very minor. By keeping it open, we aren't confining the CEO's actions. But we are [re]inviting 25,000+ people to participate in the Go community, which is a heck of a limb to cut off on principle.
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Yes, the CEO did a really shitty thing. If we burned down the website of every company where someone in power did something shitty, we'd have no websites left.
This is my first post here. I wouldn't have known about the thread if it weren't for r/golang.
I'm interested in learning more about the language, but as a very green hobbyist without much free time, much of my Go news comes from interesting tidbits that come up in gotimefm, hacker news, and most of all r/golang.
I would definitely be bummed if r/golang went away.
Only because bradfitz has a problem with Reddit doesn't mean that all others do
Squatting /r/golang and not handing moderation over would be a very unfair move to those who liked *and still like* Reddit
If you don't wanna be a mod, fair enough, step down but leave us in peace!
In light of the CEO of Reddit admitting to editing user comments (see dozen news stories today), I propose we delete the /r/golang subreddit.That is so beyond unethical and immature, I no longer want anything to do with that site. I will be deleting my account on Reddit after backing up my content, and I will no longer be a moderator of /r/golang.If other moderators of /r/golang feel strongly that it should remain, I suppose you're welcome to keep it going.But if the other moderators want to abandon it and focus our conversation elsewhere (or build a replacement), I'm happy to just delete /r/golang.Opinions?
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Hello,
I'm abjectly torn. I understand and agree that there are strong moral boundaries and trust realms that have been broken.
Simply put, reddit has become digg, the shame...
I also understand (and firmly believe) that the moderation of the reddit /r/golang community has been lackadaisical at best. At its worst it's negligent.
It also exists solely at *our* pleasure... Not yours, little blue Google gophers. Except maybe Damian Gryski, to whom you owe a debt of gratitude.
Graham
On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Florian Weimer <f...@deneb.enyo.de> wrote:
> * Brad Fitzpatrick:
>
>> In light of the CEO of Reddit admitting to editing user comments (see
>> dozen news stories today), I propose we delete the /r/golang subreddit.
>>
>> That is so beyond unethical and immature,
>
> Was it immature because they didn't make any money out of it, at least
> not directly? Modifying user-generated content without informed
> consent is standard business practice. You must be aware of that.
> (Many people who read this will see totally misleading ads next to
> this post, for instance, and I obviously never agreed to that.)
>
> It was a bad prank for sure. But it was just a prank.
Do you normalise the behaviour of all men, or only those at the C level?
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Are all 25,171 subscribers scum and villainy? As a someone that reads /r/golang I've somehow managed not to come to the same conclusion.
On Thursday, November 24, 2016 at 5:56:47 PM UTC-6, Brian Ketelsen wrote:Kill it.
It's a wretched hive of scum and villainy. The Go subreddit was the only thing similar to human and it is downright painful most of the time.
On 11/24/2016 6:54:25 PM, Brad Fitzpatrick <brad...@golang.org> wrote:
[+bketelson, dgryski]
On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Brad Fitzpatrick <brad...@golang.org> wrote:
In light of the CEO of Reddit admitting to editing user comments (see dozen news stories today), I propose we delete the /r/golang subreddit.
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