William Ditchburn

[Paul]

Looking for information on a

 

William Ditchburn

Born/ Bapt 25/5/1803 Maryport Cumberland

Died 1849 Cockermouth Cumberland

Married Anne Wedgewood

 

Anne Wedgewood

Born/ Bapt 8/6/1806 Dearham Cumberland

Died 1878 Cockermouth Cumberland

 

Daughter Jane Ditchburn

Born 1836 Workington Cumberland

Married in 1857 to Sewell Moore of Lorton Cumberland

 

Jane somewhat fertile has at least 11 children

[Linda Chapman]

Hi

Ann is my 4th cousin 6x removed but you have more info on them then me as I only have 8 children lol

Thompson
Aaron
William
Jane
Sarah
Thomas
Philip x 2

Sorry I can't be of more help

Lin

[Paul]

Hmmmm Hi Linda my info might be not be as reliable as yours ? I have here 11 offspring William 1858, Mary 1861, Thompson 1863, John 1865, Ann 1867, Sarah 1869, Joseph 1872, Hannah 1874, Robert 1876, Jane 1878, Essie or Elsie 1888 all born in Flimby Cumberland except Thompson and John born in Camertown Cumberland

Thompson dies in 1883 Cockermouth Cumberland

 

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[Petra Mitchinson]

Hi Paul,

 

The IGI has the marriage of William DITCHBURN and Ann WEDGEWOOD on 03 Oct 1825 in Wigton.

 

The following children of William & Ann DITCHBURN are on the IGI as baptised in Cumberland (but there could have been another couple of those names as well, so no guarantee they are all yours - but I could not find any other marriage of a William DITCHBURN to an Ann on the IGI):

 

Aaron, bap. 26 Jun 1831 Bolton, CUM.

William, bap. 07 Nov 1833 Camerton

Jane bap. 10 Mar 1836 St. Michael, Workington

Sarah bap. 20 Sep 1840 Flimby

Thomas bap. 18 Jun 1843 Camerton

Philip bap. 31 Jan 1846 Flimby

Philip bap. 10 Aug 1847 Flimby (death 04 Jan 1848)

 

Have you found the family on the censuses yet? If not, I can go and have a look...

 

Petra

[Paul]

Ahhhh Ok many thanx Petra for that, the info I have is from the 1881 and 1891 census for Sewell Moore and Jane Ditchburn and their 11 offspring

Would appreciate if you could look at earlier census if possible. As I don’t have any info on any of the siblings to Jane Ditchburn I got confused with Linda’s email…..obviously she was referring to Jane Ditchburn siblings not to her children. My fault, think I had better get a coffee….:-)

 

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From: genealogy-...@googlegroups.com [mailto:genealogy-...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Petra Mitchinson
Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2012 7:52 PM
To: genealogy-...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [CUL GOOGLIES] William Ditchburn

 

Hi Paul,

[Petra Mitchinson]

They seem to be the right family - here they are in 1841:

 

1841 census for Parish of Flimby

HO107, Piece 162, Book 4, f.10, p.15

Address: Village of Flimby

William DITCHBURN, age 38, Coal Miner

Ann DITCHBURN, age 35

Thompson DITCHBURN, age 11

Aaron DITCHBURN, age 7

William DITCHBURN, age 6

Jane DITCHBURN, age 4

Joseph DITCHBURN, age 2

Sarah DITCHBURN, age 9 months

all born in Cumberland

 

 

1851 census for Parish of Flimby

HO107, Piece 2435, f. 695, p.12, sch.48

Address: Straugton Houses

Ann DITCHBURN, Head, widow, age 45, born CUL, Dearham

Aaron DITCHBURN, son, unmarried, age 19, Coal Miner, born CUL, Bolton

Jane DITCHBURN, daughter, unmarried, at Home, born CUL, Workington

Joseph DITCHBURN, son, age 12, Coal Miner, born CUL, Seaton

Thomas DITCHBURN, son, age 7, at Home, born CUL, Seaton

 

 

1861 census for Parish of Flimby

RG9, Piece 3941, f. 5, p. 5, schedule 24

Address: Village of Flimby

Ann DICHBURN, Head, widow, age 53, born CUL, Dearham

William DICHBURN, son, unmarried, age 24, Coal Miner, born CUL, Seaton

Thomas DICHBURN, son, unmarried, age 17, Coal Miner, born CUL, Seaton

William DICHBURN, grandson, age 3, born CUL, Flimby

Sarah WEDGEWOOD, niece, unmarried, age 20, born CUL, Flimby

 

 

1871 census for Flimby Civil Parish, Village of Flimby

RG10, Piece 5245, f. 22, p. 1, sch. 3

Address: Flimby Village

Ann DITCHBURN, Head, widow, age 59, Pauper, born CUL, Dearham

William DITCHBURN, grandson, unmarried, age 13, Picker at Coalmines, born CUL, Flimby

William URE, boarder, married, age 24, Builder, born CUL, Kirklinton

 

I note that in 30 years, Ann DITCHBURN managed to only age 21 years. Quite an achievement!

 

Petra

 

 

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From: Petra Mitchinson

To: genealogy-...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 12:51 PM

Subject: Re: [CUL GOOGLIES] William Ditchburn

[Paul]

Many, many thanx for that I really appreciate your help.  Certainly the same family  especially with Sarah WEDGEWOOD, niece, unmarried, age 20, born CUL, Flimby that certainly clinches it . Will add all to my tree. They all seem to be coal miners, over 90% of my family tree seem to be coal miners, wish I had someone exciting like a pirate or a highway man or even a sheep thief would be acceptable. J Once again thankyou so much

 

 

                                                                                  Paul

 

 

[Linda Chapman]

Hi Paul

Thompson b 1863 appears to be the son of Thompson b 1829 and Ann nee Jackson

he appears on the 1871 census along with

Ann b 1861
Jane b 1865
Mary b 1868

and is at home with his parents on the 1891 census along with sister Jane and a nephew John W W Ditchburn aged 4

on the 1911 he is lodging in Manchester


There is a death for Thompson Snr on Freebmd in Dec qtr 1896 aged 69 in Cockermouth

and

for Thompson Jnr in Dec qtr 1915 aged 54 at Prestwich in Lancs

these may not be the correct ones but seem close enough

Lin

[Paul]

Ahhhh Ok thanx Linda for that I was a bit confused earlier but yes I understand now, I will have to recheck my source for the Thompson Moore who died  in 1883 Cockermouth Cumberland  however many, many thanx for your help certainly appreciate it J

[Petra Mitchinson]

Well if he was called Thompson MOORE he was obviously a different one from Thompson DITCHBURN. No reason why Jane MOORE nee DITCHBURN could not have named a son after her brother.

 

Petra

 

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From: Paul

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[Linda Chapman]

Thompson Ditchburn is lodging in Manchester on the 1911

with

Joseph Moore b 1872 at Flimby
Jane Moore b 1865 at Flimby

and there is a marriage for

Joseph Moore
Jane Ditchburn

in the Jun qtr of 1892 in Cockermouth dist

Lin

[Petra Mitchinson]

Was that a first cousin marriage then???

[Linda Chapman]

don't know but wouldn't have been the first or last lol

[Paul]

Yes Thompson Ditchburn is an uncle to Thompson Moore because William Ditchburn marries Anne Wedgewood they have 6 children maybe 7 if the 2 phillips are not the same,  one of the children is Jane Ditchburn who marries Sewel Moore whose sister Jane Moore  than marries A Thomas Shaw of Moresby who is my great Grand Father. That might sound somewhat confusing but I can follow it quite well on my Family Tree Maker Prog…….:-)

[Linda Chapman]

so who is the joseph moore who also marries a jane ditchburn

lin

[Petra Mitchinson]

Here are some censuses for the MOORE family:

 

1901 census for Flimby CP

RG13, Piece 4886, f. 92, p. 13, schedule 66

Address: Parkers Terrace (4 rooms)

Sewel MOORE, Head, married, age 67, Plate layer, worker, born Wythop, CUL

Jane MOORE, wife, married, age 65, born Workington, CUL

Tom MUSGRAVE, son-in-law, married, age 31, Coal MIner, worker, born Camerton, CUL

Jane MUSGRAVE, daughter, married, age 23, born Flimby, CUL

Jane MUSGRAVE, granddaughter, single, age 5, born Flimby, CUL

Martha MUSGRAVE, granddaughter, single, age 4, born Flimby, CUL

Essie MUSGRAVE, granddaughter, single, age 1, born Flimby, CUL

 

I understand you already have 1891 and 1881.

 

1871 census for Flimby CP, Village of Flimby

RG10, Piece 5245, f. 22, p. 2, schedule 6

Address: Flimby Village

Sewel MOORE, Head, married, age 40, Coalminer, born CUL, Wythop

Jane MOORE, wife, married, age 35, born CUL, Workington

William MOORE, son, unmarried, age 13, Driver in Coalmine, born CUL, Flimby

Mary MOORE, daughter, age 10, born CUL, Flimby

Thompson MOORE, son, age 8, Scholar, born CUL, Camerton

John MOORE, son, age 6, Scholar, born CUL, Camerton

Ann MOORE, daughter, age 4, born CUL, Flimby

Sarah MOORE, daughter, age 2, born CUL, Flimby

 

1861 census for Flimby Parish

RG9, Piece 3941, f. 7, p. 10, schedule 51

Address: Village of Flimby

Sevell [or Swell] MOOR, Head, married, age 29, Ag Lab, born CUL, Withop

Jane MOOR, wife, married, age 25, Do. Wife, born CUL, Workington

William MOOR, son, age 3, born CUL, Flimby

Mary MOOR, daughter, age 3 months, born CUL, Flimby

 

1851 census for Blindbothel Township

HO107, Piece 2434, f. 513, p. 5, schedule 10

Address: Highdike

Fletcher NORMAN, Head, unmarried, age 44, Farmer of 155 As. employing 2 labourers, born CUL, Brigham

John NORMAN, father, widower, age 72, Landed Proprietor, born CUL, Uldale

Matilda NORMAN, sister, unmarried, age 32, born CUL, Brigham

Mary Ann NORMAN, sister, unmarried, age 32, born CUL, Brigham

Sewel MOORE, servant, unmarried, age 20, Farm Serv, born CUL, Brigham

Henry PARK, servant, unmarried, age 18, Farm Serv, born CUL, Disington

Hannah RITSON, servant, unmarried, age 19, House Serv, born CUL, Bridekirk

 

1841 census for Wythop Township

HO107, Piece 156, Book 28, f. 3, p. 1

Address: Eskin

William MOORE, age 40, Ag lab

Mary MOORE, age 40

Jane MOORE, age 15

Sewel MOORE, age 9

John MOORE, age 7

Joseph MOORE, age 3

all born in Cumberland

 

And here is some more for Sewell's parents:

 

1851 census for Wythop Township

HO107, Piece 2434, f. 30, p. 6, schedule 19

William MOORE, Head, married, age 54, Farm Labourer, born CUL, Clifton

Mary MOORE, wife, married, age 52, born CUL, Embleton

Mary MOORE, daughter, unmarried, age 26, Cook &c. out of place, born CUL, Lorton

Joseph MOORE, son, age 13, Scholar, born CUL, Wythop

Robert MOORE, grandson, age 6, Scholar, born CUL, Wythop

Thomas CROSTHWAITE, lodger, unmarried, Teacher of English, &c., born CUL, Thornthwaite

 

1861 census for Blindcrake Township

RG9, Piece 3936, f. 19, p. 7, schedule 26

Address: [blank]

William MOORE, Head, married, age 64, Shop Keeper, born CUL, Clifton

Mary MOORE, wife, age 62, born CUL, Embleton

Joseph MOORE, son, unmarried, age 22, Ag. Lab., born CUL, Wythop

 

1871 census for Township of Blindcrake, Isel and Redmain

RG10, Piece 5240, f. 17, p. 1, schedule 7

Address: Blindcrake Village, Private House

William MOOR, Head, widower, age 74, Laborer, born CUL, Clifton

 

Couldn't find William any more in 1881 so presumably had also died.

[Roland Edgar]

Petra,

 

Just goes to show we Cumbrians age well!!!!

 

Roland

From: Petra Mitchinson

 

[Linda Chapman]

does your mum know your on here Roland, those under age should always ask permission first lol

[Roland Edgar]

Naw, “snuk on” when she wasn’t looking,

 

Roland

[Linda Chapman]

slapped wrists, you'll be grounded for a week now lol