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Thanks for the announcement,
I agree the sources thing is very awkward. A strategy like this won't realistically markup half a percent of our data, with the best intentions.
Lydia, I hope your team will consider solutions that place more trust in the accuracy of freebase, given its potential to reshape your project.
I don't know much about the promised API for wikidata, but we've been spoiled with the fancy freebase one. It will be sad loosing it.
There are regular uproars on the wikidata mailing list from people who complain that Wikidata is deaf to public input. That was my first impression and I think the business model that it operates at the pleasure of a few big donors and thus doesn't need to listen to the "voice of the customer."
In general notability on Wikidata is less strict. The guidelines are
here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability That is a
living policy and it can evolve in the future of course.
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What do you mean by Freebase suggest?
So these APIs will be deprecated and will no longer work on March 31st, correct?
Apologies, but I'm wondering what I can do from here on out.
So I'm going to ask, if you don't mind:
I use the search api and filtres to filtre out titles based on queries. Will I still be able to do this with the KG api?
I use the reconcile api to get MIDs from a textual name. Will I still be able to do this with the KG api?
I then retrieve facts on the topic and based on your previous response the KG api won't be able to do that, right? What I'm looking for is the extract the description of a mid— will the KG api do that?
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Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2014 20:56:03 UTC+1 schrieb Lydia Pintscher:In general notability on Wikidata is less strict. The guidelines are
here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability That is a
living policy and it can evolve in the future of course.Which seems much more strict than the idea that Freebase has on notability. :)
[...]-Johannes
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The Wikidata notability guidelines are either draconian or nearly vacuous, but I can't figure out which.
Consider information about movies. One could argue that entire cast lists can be in Wikidata because they are about a Wikipedia object, and then that all objects that are mentioned in cast lists are notable, and then that all information about these objects are notable, and so on. However, one might also argue that bit players are not notable by themselves and thus that information about them aside from their presence in cast lists is not notable.
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Hi everyone,
This is big news for Wikidata and Freebase. I just wanted to say hello
and introduce myself. I am the product manager for Wikidata and
available for any Wikidata related questions you might have. Wikidata
has a great community. I hope you will all join us and feel welcome
and right at home on Wikidata.
On Dec 19, 2014 8:01 AM, "ben" <benjamin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Wikidata seems like a completely unsuitable home for this data due to the notability requirement that an entry must have a Wikipedia article for it. Wikidata will only ever be able to host a fraction of the data that Freebase did and provide a fraction of the value that Freebase did. This is extremely disappointing.
That is not true. A Wikipedia article is not a requirement. It is just one possible way to be notable.
Cheers
Lydia
>
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:08:52 AM UTC-8, Jason Douglas wrote:
>>
>> When we publicly launched Freebase back in 2007, we thought of it as a "Wikipedia for structured data." So it shouldn't be surprising that we've been closely watching the Wikimedia Foundation's project Wikidata since it launched about two years ago. We believe strongly in a robust community-driven effort to collect and curate structured knowledge about the world, but we now think we can serve that goal best by supporting Wikidata -- they’re growing fast, have an active community, and are better-suited to lead an open collaborative knowledge base.
>>
>> So we've decided to help transfer the data in Freebase to Wikidata, and in mid-2015 we’ll wind down the Freebase service as a standalone project. Freebase has also supported developer access to the data, so before we retire it, we’ll launch a new API for entity search powered by Google's Knowledge Graph.
>>
>> Loading Freebase into Wikidata as-is wouldn't meet the Wikidata community's guidelines for citation and sourcing of facts -- while a significant portion of the facts in Freebase came from Wikipedia itself, those facts were attributed to Wikipedia and not the actual original non-Wikipedia sources. So we’ll be launching a tool for Wikidata community members to match Freebase assertions to potential citations from either Google Search or our Knowledge Vault, so these individual facts can then be properly loaded to Wikidata.
>>
>> We believe this is the best first step we can take toward becoming a constructive participant in the Wikidata community, but we’ll look to continually evolve our role to support the goal of a comprehensive open database of common knowledge that anyone can use.
>>
>> Here are the important dates to know:
>> Before the end of March 2015
>> We’ll launch a Wikidata import review tool
>> We’ll announce a transition plan for the Freebase Search API & Suggest Widget to a Knowledge Graph-based solution
>> March 31, 2015
>> Freebase as a service will become read-only
>> The website will no longer accept edits
>> We’ll turn down the MQL write API
>> June 30, 2015
>> We’ll retire the Freebase website and APIs
>> The last Freebase data dump will remain available, but developers should check out the Wikidata dump
>>
>> The Knowledge Graph team at Google
>
But what is not notable for Wikidata?
Could one just say that a fact is notable because it was in Freebase, for example?
Hi Brian,
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Brian Garnick <bgar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Lydia,
> I'm excited to get started with Wikidata. I have spent some time poking
> around, and can't seem to figure out how to map relationships between a
> business and its branch offices as I do using Freebase:
> https://www.freebase.com/business/business_location
>
> Can you point me in the right direction?
I am not sure if the right property for that has already been decided
on and created by the Wikidata community. Best ask on the Project chat
at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat
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Lydia, what's the wikidata list you answered Thad's questions on?
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