I'll be sad to lose the promise of this feature, but yeah, great or
dead. Does anyone know if we going to have/keep the ability to bookmark
to the desktop/start menu/dock on desktop and mobile, as a replacement?
2015 December 14 at 17:23
It's similar but the technical implementation is independent. The "Web App Runtime" on Fennec that Myk refers to is the system that produces APK files wrapping a web app, and then arranges to run that web app in its own process. (Independent of the Fennec process!) That set of features is essentially untested and slows development down. The future of Web Apps in Fennec is not 100% clear, but the features discussed in Mozlando are intended to be used and integrate more with Fennec-the-browser-process than stand beside it. Parsing manifests to extract hires icons is possible in both worlds, but many things require lots of work on the Fennec side -- opening homescreen bookmarks fullscreen or with custom chrome UI, for example.
2015 December 14 at 16:10
+1 - great or dead, right?
2015 December 14 at 16:17
I hope that this means that we can unship the non-standard mozApps API on desktop and Android as AFAICT the web app runtime is the only use case for it on those platforms.
2015 December 15 at 08:37
I'll be sad to lose the promise of this feature, but yeah, great or
dead. Does anyone know if we going to have/keep the ability to bookmark
to the desktop/start menu/dock on desktop and mobile, as a replacement?
No objections on my side.
Fabrice
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Fabrice Desré
b2g team
Mozilla Corporation
I assume we're planning to implement/already have implemented the
W3C version? Could you post bug number(s)?
Also, is there a way for those of us not at Mozlando to see the
demo? I'm curious and/or nosy.
GL
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2015 December 16 at 00:34
I assume we're planning to implement/already have implemented the W3C version? Could you post bug number(s)?
Also, is there a way for those of us not at Mozlando to see the demo? I'm curious and/or nosy.
2015 December 17 at 10:21
I'd like to understand the implications for existing apps that are installed. We are getting 400K apps installed per month on desktop and 25K per month installed on Android. There are about 3.3M total apps installed on Desktop and 900K on Android.
Will these apps stop working? Or will they only stop working if they use specific APIs (and exactly which ones)?
Can apps be removed if they are already on a user's machine?
Marketplace has plans to remove submission and updates of apps for Desktop and Android in Q1, and disable the ability to install/open apps from Marketplace.
I put together some options last August for deprecating WebRT here (though perhaps dated): https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1LG6HFCf0TY0fiweaoM_UDr74W24PhpJQSbwFT6X_9BY/edit#slide=id.p
We decided to 'do nothing' at that point, but now we will need to put some plans in place so that we don't strand uses with apps they can't use and developers with supporting apps they don't wish to.
2015 December 28 at 12:32
Doesn't sound to me like it would be the same. Right now, I'm running a ("hosted") web "app" quite a lot on my Android tablet because I can use web technologies to run something that starts decently fast and launches directly into full screen and acts like a full application, without the browser chrome that is pretty useless in that one.
2015 December 14 at 15:45
I think we should disable the desktop and Android Web Runtimes in Firefox and Fennec.