Sad day :(

[cheekybuddha]

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/firebug-working-group/GNCZeL1eWq8

... but life moves on.

Thanks John for your amazing contribution to Firebug over the last few years and making the lives of many many developers a whole lot easier.

Regards,

d

[dmccunney]

Agreed. I noted that John was coming to us from IBM, and wondered
whether IBM was subsidizing his work On Firebug. IBM has paid
engineers to work on open source projects IBM uses internally, so it
seemed likely, but IBM apparently decided not to continue that
support.

With Honza, Pedro, and others on board, FB isn't exactly dying - it's
still vital and widely used. And the re-architecture John mentions
sounds like it will provide opportunities. Seeing the new Web Console
introduced in FF 6 (which looks a lot like Firebug), I wondered how
much Firebug could leverage off of existing features when present,
without doing everything itself, and simply add on to what the
browser's native debugging already offered and provide an interface
largely the same across browsers and an API that would make FB
extensions cross-browser too.

We'll see. Meanwhile, a bow of deep respect to John, and heartfelt
thanks for his contributions.
_____
Dennis

[pedz]

I hope this comes across as intended.  I love firebug and I use Firefox exclusively because of it.  But... "life moves on" is really true.

Opera has the concept of remote debugging so that the developer can debug problems on a user's browser.  That seems super but I haven't tried it out yet.  I use that just as an example of where life has come to now.  A place that wasn't even dreamed of when Firebug first hit the streets.

I wonder if "re-architecting" firebug is wise (and I don't know exactly what is in progress).  Sometimes starting fresh is very nice.

[dmccunney]

On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:50 PM, pedz <ped...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wonder if "re-architecting" firebug is wise (and I don't know exactly what
> is in progress).  Sometimes starting fresh is very nice.

Right now there is Firebug for Firefox, and Firefox Lite for Chrome,
IE, Opera et al. The rearchitecture is intended to allow more of the
core code to be available across browsers. Right now, much of Firebug
itself is inherently tied to Firefox, and not portable elsewhere.

I'd call a rewrite for portability and extensibility *very* wise. I'd
like to be able to use Firebug in any browser, and have it look and
act substantially the same, with the same feature set available. As
browsers develop and improve, and add support for more emerging web
standards like HTML5, CSS3, and more recent additions to JavaScript,
this becomes more possible, if you have a portable and flexible code
base on which to build.
_____
Dennis