LVT in Ont Green Party platform

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Frank de Jong

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Apr 22, 2018, 6:14:38 PM4/22/18
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The Green Party supports establishing a legislative committee to study
best practices for reforming and improving the property tax system,
with special consideration of moving to a system of Land Value
Taxation in order to eliminate inaccurate and arbitrary property
assessments, deter speculative land holding, reduce abandoned lots and
urban sprawl, and encourage job creating property improvements.

https://gpo.ca/2011/08/31/green-party-supports-strong-communities-and-working-with-municipalities/

paul ramses

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Apr 22, 2018, 6:23:46 PM4/22/18
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John Rivière-Anderson

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Apr 22, 2018, 7:51:08 PM4/22/18
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Do the other parties know what LVT is? Should they be asked to address it publicly ‎?

John
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Frank de Jong

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Apr 22, 2018, 8:29:55 PM4/22/18
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At this stage it doesn't much matter what the Greens say, they're not
yet competitive enough to influence or this or any other debate.

(The Greens are also the only party to favour moving to one school
system, but since the other parties continue to ignore this issue the
media will not feel obliged or empowered to cover it.)

Actually probably only a handful of Greens know how LVT works, and
it's highly unlikely the GPO leader, Mike Schreiner, will mention it
in interviews or speeches. Like Kim Campbell famously said, elections
are not the time to discuss complex issues.

LVT is high profile in England, but not here, yet, unfortunately.
Ontario is so very desperately in need of it to rationalize land use
and boost economic vitality.

Frank

David Johnson

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Apr 22, 2018, 9:06:44 PM4/22/18
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Sadly, Frank is right. The Green party of Ontario is concentrating on
winning some seats in the legislature in the upcoming election, preferably
including their leader. This will not be the time to start introducing a
complex (for some) item in their platform. The lack of understanding of
L.V.T. among voters, and particularly in the media, would only make it an
issue to be ignored. With a Green Party presence in Parliament, then the
issue could start to be introduced seriously. This is just another important
reason to support the Green Party in the coming election.

Dave Johnson

Erich Jacoby-Hawkins

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Apr 22, 2018, 9:19:16 PM4/22/18
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Actually, GPO leader Mike Schreiner has been consistent in speaking in favour of Land Value Capture, which is a form of LVT, has wider understanding, and is generally supported by planners.

From 2014:

"We propose a combination of province-wide and urban-focused mechanisms (including a gas tax, congestion charges, commercial parking levies, and land value capture) to produce the revenue necessary — $3 billion a year — to build and operate the public transit and transportation infrastructure we need."

Of those 4 measures, 2 are applications of LVT and the other 2 are variants of LVT.

From 2015:

"Shift taxes from labour and productivity to resource use, pollution levies, and land value levies in order to create incentives to use land and resources more efficiently, reduce pollution and create disincentives for sprawl. Ontario must increase royalty rates and levies for aggregates, water taking, and mining."

From earlier this month:

He later told this newspaper his party also supported universal basic income to eliminate poverty, had policies to combat systemic racism and sexism, and supported public transit while proposing to revive the Ontario Northland Transit Commission.

“I think what separates us from the other two progressive parties is that we are honest about how we’re going to pay for things,” he said.

He proposed increased resource royalties, congestion charges in Toronto, commercial parking levies in the Greater Toronto Area and land-value capture at transit stops, as examples, for revenue generation.

“To me, that’s being fiscally responsible, not fiscally conservative,” said Schreiner.

He also mentioned Land Value Capture at his visit to Barrie a few weeks ago, part of the same tour referenced in this article.

However, Mike knows that in politics, when you're explaining, you're losing. So rather than use terminology that 99% of people won't recognize (LVT), he uses terms that are part of the common revenue vernacular right now, but that are congruent with the principles of LVT.

Erich.

John Rivière-Anderson

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Apr 22, 2018, 9:21:51 PM4/22/18
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Say, for a speculative moment, one could try to introduce the electorate to LVT‎. How would one sloganise it, perhaps unfurling it slowly over time like a TV series:

"LVT‎ : Lower income tax. Fairness. Jobs."

John


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