What are the differences between SE,SE30, and SE Superdrive?
Wolf
differences were between them. BTW, the SE has an internal HDD. (I
only mention that because I know some didn't come with HDD's).
Thanks in advance.
wolf
Clark Martin
wo...@sun-robot.nuceng.ufl.edu (Wolf) wrote:
>I have a few of these machines in storage and was wondering what the
>differences were between them. BTW, the SE has an internal HDD. (I
>only mention that because I know some didn't come with HDD's).
SE SE/30
Processor 68000 68030
Clock 8 16 MHz
Bus width 16 32 bits
Virtual Memory no yes
Max RAM 4 128 Mb
Latest OS 7.5.5 7.5.5
The SE/30 is a much more capable machine. It is still well liked by many
people. It is still quite capable. It can run most current browsers
although one bit per pixel makes it limited in displaying graphics.
The SE is very limited these days but there are still things it can be
used for. After all the old software running under the old OS still works
like it did 11 years ago.
Both the SE/30 and SE (or SE FDHD) have a single PDS slot. They take
different cards though. Video and Ethernet are the two most common PDS
cards installed.
The SE FDHD (Superdrive was a code word or such) has of course the FDHD
floppy drive, the SWIM instead of IWM floppy controller chip and different
ROMs (to support the FDHD) vs the SE. Other than that they are the same.
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Eric Grayson
wrote:
>I have a few of these machines in storage and was wondering what the
>differences were between them. BTW, the SE has an internal HDD. (I
>only mention that because I know some didn't come with HDD's).
>
>
>wolf
>
The SE (System Enhancement) was the first machine that could take an
external card.
The SE is a 68000 machine.
The SE/30 is a 68030 machine.
The SE/30 Superdrive has a floppy drive that will read 800K an 1.44MB
disks.
Eric
Morten Dreier
> I have a few of these machines in storage and was wondering what the
> differences were between them. BTW, the SE has an internal HDD. (I
> only mention that because I know some didn't come with HDD's).
SE is a 7 MHz 68040 machine, and is quite similar to the Classic in many
ways. Most of them came without the High Density diskdrive - it was an
upgrade option.
SE/30 is (for me) one of Apple's great machines. Reasons:
- It has Color QuickDraw, therefore you can have external color monitors
- it came with 2 ADB-slots, a PDS upgrade option and 8 SIMM slots.
- It supported hardware handshake, so you can use high speed modems
(>9600)
- It contained an fpu(68882)
- It ran on a 16 MHz 68030 on a 32 bit bus
- It is small and compact
The motherboard is a small version of the Mac IIvx motherboard.
It is also quite similar to the later Color Classic, but the CC only had
a 16 bit bus.
The SE/30's are ideal as small servers; many companies still run those
small buggers as fax and mail servers.
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NTNU - Institutt for Datateknikk og Informasjonsvitenskap
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Geoffrey Peters
> I have a few of these machines in storage and was wondering what the
> differences were between them. BTW, the SE has an internal HDD. (I
> only mention that because I know some didn't come with HDD's).
SE: 8 MHz 68000, max 4 MB RAM, the only Mac that could handle three
floppy drives at once!
SE SuperDrive (aka (SE/FDHD): same as an SE, but had a new drive
controller chip on the motherboard that could handle the 'new' 1.44 MB
floppy drives (as opposed to the older 800k models in the original SE,
II and Mac Plus)
SE/30: 16 MHz 68030 with FPU, PDS expansion slot. One of the best
machines Apple ever built in terms of reliability. Makes for a great
file server on small LANs.
Geoffrey
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Morten Dreier
> SE is a 7 MHz 68040 machine
Woops - silly me.
The Amiga 1000 and 500 ran on a 7.14 MHz 68000.
The SE ran on a 8 MHz 68000
none
mdr...@ifi.ntnu.no (Morten Dreier) wrote:
> SE/30 is (for me) one of Apple's great machines.
Yep. I wish I'd kept mine, but I had to sell it at the time to get into
the IIci. Still have that, another great box.
Jeff Walther
> SE SE/30
> Processor 68000 68030
> Clock 8 16 MHz
> Bus width 16 32 bits
> Virtual Memory no yes
> Max RAM 4 128 Mb
> Latest OS 7.5.5 7.5.5
> The SE/30 is a much more capable machine. It is still well liked by many
> people. It is still quite capable. It can run most current browsers
> although one bit per pixel makes it limited in displaying graphics.
Ahh, but if one tries very hard, one might find one of the video
cards made for the SE/30. With the appropriate video card in the
PDS slot the SE/30 will do 24 bit graphics on an external monitor.
And I believe there were some combo video/ethernet cards available
at one time--the names Focus Enhancements and Lapis come to mind
for some reason.
David Empson
> On Mon, Oct 5, 1998 8:32 AM, Wolf <mailto:wo...@sun-robot.nuceng.ufl.edu>
> wrote:
> >I have a few of these machines in storage and was wondering what the
> >differences were between them. BTW, the SE has an internal HDD. (I
> >only mention that because I know some didn't come with HDD's).
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >wolf
> >
> The SE (System Enhancement) was the first machine that could take an
> external card.
>
> The SE is a 68000 machine.
> The SE/30 is a 68030 machine.
> The SE/30 Superdrive has a floppy drive that will read 800K an 1.44MB
> disks.
You got one detail wrong: every SE/30 has a SuperDrive. The "FDHD"
upgrade is for the original SE. The plain SE can only handle 800K
disks, unless it has the FDHD upgrade.
In case anyone out there has heard of an "SE20" or "SE/20", note that
this is just a plain SE with a 20MB hard drive installed.
The SE/30 is a completely different beast from the original SE, at least
as far as the motherboard is concerned.
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