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Harry Mudd the Fanboy

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Jun 14, 2014, 1:03:47 AM6/14/14
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http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/01/06/critics-take-issue-with-lack-of-diversity-on-apple-board-of-directors

"The company recently made a small tweak to its corporate charter
vowing to diversify its board, following criticism from shareholders
Trillium Asset Management LLC and the Sustainability Group, according
to Bloomberg. Specifically, the groups have taken issue with the fact
that only one woman, former Avon CEO Andrea Jung, serves on Apple's board.
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KDT

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Jun 14, 2014, 12:43:04 PM6/14/14
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I thought you conservative types didn't care about diversity and don't care about color or gender?

Harry Mudd the Fanboy

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Jun 14, 2014, 4:41:53 PM6/14/14
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On 6/14/2014 12:43 PM, KDT wrote:
> I thought you conservative types didn't care about diversity and don't care about color or gender?
>
Where did you get that idea? Oh, that's right you gobble d up that
pile of liberal shit whot also blame every failure/fuckup of Barack
Obama on conservatives hating him cuz he's 'black', right?

Keep eating poop, Karl....
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KDT

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Jun 14, 2014, 5:13:06 PM6/14/14
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Maybe in your case it's all the references like "habeeb"?

Harry Mudd the Fanboy

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Jun 14, 2014, 5:54:26 PM6/14/14
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On 6/14/2014 5:13 PM, KDT wrote:
> Maybe in your case it's all the references like "habeeb"?
>
and just what do I supposedly mean by 'habeeb'?

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Alan Baker

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Jun 16, 2014, 1:23:51 PM6/16/14
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What do you suppose the diversity looks like on Samsung's BoD?

Alan Baker

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Jun 16, 2014, 1:24:27 PM6/16/14
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On 2014-06-14 21:54:26 +0000, Harry Mudd the Fanboy said:

> On 6/14/2014 5:13 PM, KDT wrote:
>> Maybe in your case it's all the references like "habeeb"?
>>
> and just what do I supposedly mean by 'habeeb'?

You are using an ethnic name as a slur.

Harry Mudd the Fanboy

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Jun 16, 2014, 8:57:10 PM6/16/14
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I am? Just where is the 'slur' component, or the 'ethic name' component?


Specifically, what ethnicity are you claiming this imagined slur
occured in?

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Alan Baker

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Jun 16, 2014, 9:21:23 PM6/16/14
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If you starting referring to a person you don't know by an ethnic name,
is that ever intended as anything BUT a slur?

If you think so, give an example.

Harry Mudd the Fanboy

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Jun 17, 2014, 7:07:00 AM6/17/14
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Yes, it is. I only started using habeeb because someone else did, and
that it seemed to get a reaction,. which was what I was shooting for,
that's all. I implied no ethnic insult however. Habeeb doesn't seem
particularly bothered by it. In fact, the only person who's panties
seem to get in a bunch over it is >you<. ;-)


>
> If you think so, give an example.
>


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-hh

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Jun 17, 2014, 7:37:18 AM6/17/14
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Harry Mudd the Fanboy wrote:
> Alan Baker wrote:
> > Harry Mudd the Fanboy said:
> >> Alan Baker wrote:
> >>> Harry Mudd the Fanboy said:
> >>>> KDT wrote:
>
> >>>>> Maybe in your case it's all the references like "habeeb"?
>
> >>>> and just what do I supposedly mean by 'habeeb'?
>
> >>> You are using an ethnic name as a slur.
>
> >> I am? Just where is the 'slur' component, or the 'ethic name'
> >> component?
> >> Specifically, what ethnicity are you claiming this imagined slur
> >> occured in?
>
> > If you starting referring to a person you don't know by an ethnic
> > name, is that ever intended as anything BUT a slur?
>
> Yes, it is. I only started using habeeb because someone else did,

Bogus: the "someone else" was another sock puppet.


> and that it seemed to get a reaction,. which was what I was shooting for,
> that's all. I implied no ethnic insult however.

You're knowingly being malicious and your excuse is in trying to add
the qualifier of "ethnic" in front of insult - but it is still done as an insult.

Its not the first time this denial gambit has been attempted; one of the
prior attempts was to try to split hairs between if it was an ethnic insult
or a racial insult: it doesn't matter because it is still an insult and being
employed as discriminatory.

> Habeeb doesn't seem particularly bothered by it.

Because the person in the photo doesn't know about any of this, because
they've never read or posted to CSMA.

However, I am bothered by it, particularly since you're so willing to use
and direct hate speech at someone you've never met and don't know:
it was all done based solely on skin color. You know that it is an insult
but you persist anyway, thereby illustrating that you're a bigot.

> In fact, the only person who's panties
> seem to get in a bunch over it is >you<. ;-)

Wrong again: you know that it is offensive to several readers here. You're
simply slinging the insult to try to provoke an emotional reaction where it is
"safe" for you under the guise of anonymity, since you know that saying the
same bigoted remark in the larger world could result in physical harm or worse.


-hh

Harry Mudd the Fanboy

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Jun 17, 2014, 8:13:25 AM6/17/14
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On 6/17/2014 7:37 AM, -hh wrote:
> Harry Mudd the Fanboy wrote:
>> Alan Baker wrote:
>>> Harry Mudd the Fanboy said:
>>>> Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> Harry Mudd the Fanboy said:
>>>>>> KDT wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> Maybe in your case it's all the references like "habeeb"?
>>
>>>>>> and just what do I supposedly mean by 'habeeb'?
>>
>>>>> You are using an ethnic name as a slur.
>>
>>>> I am? Just where is the 'slur' component, or the 'ethic name'
>>>> component?
>>>> Specifically, what ethnicity are you claiming this imagined slur
>>>> occured in?
>>
>>> If you starting referring to a person you don't know by an ethnic
>>> name, is that ever intended as anything BUT a slur?
>>
>> Yes, it is. I only started using habeeb because someone else did,
>
> Bogus: the "someone else" was another sock puppet.
>
>
>> and that it seemed to get a reaction,. which was what I was shooting for,
>> that's all. I implied no ethnic insult however.
>
> You're knowingly being malicious and your excuse is in trying to add
> the qualifier of "ethnic" in front of insult - but it is still done as an insult.
>
I didn't add "ethnic" before slur, Baker did when he said "ethnic slur"...

> Its not the first time this denial gambit has been attempted; one of the
> prior attempts was to try to split hairs between if it was an ethnic insult
> or a racial insult: it doesn't matter because it is still an insult and being
> employed as discriminatory.

Really? Prove it.

>
>> Habeeb doesn't seem particularly bothered by it.
>
> Because the person in the photo doesn't know about any of this, because
> they've never read or posted to CSMA.

Whata re you blathering about now? *what* person "in the photo"? I
saw no photo.

> However, I am bothered by it, particularly since you're so willing to use
> and direct hate speech at someone you've never met and don't know:

Who says it was hate inspired? I may use it as a bit of a 'jab' but
as nothing more than a nickname much as I do with Anal Baker, Sandy
the ass-flea, or Klingon Dinkleberry Troll.. If you are offended by
it in an ethnic way, I apologize and won't use it again. I have no
idea of your ethnicity so as to use it as such...


> it was all done based solely on skin color.

I didn't know that.

You know that it is an insult

I didn't know that either. I only knew it was a nickname and that I
never saw or read anything from you or anyone else about it when say,
Nashton used the term.


> but you persist anyway, thereby illustrating that you're a bigot.

It's 'bigoted' to simply use a nickname, is it?
>
>> In fact, the only person who's panties
>> seem to get in a bunch over it is >you<. ;-)
>
> Wrong again: you know that it is offensive to several readers here.

The only person I knew it was somehow offensive to was Baker, as he
always seems to make an issue of it. And frankly I'm glad it did
offend him. But I saw no reason for him to be offended as I never
used the nickname in reference to him, so frankly, I didn't give a
rat's ass if it bothered him.

You're
> simply slinging the insult to try to provoke an emotional reaction where it is
> "safe" for you under the guise of anonymity,

Yes, it is safer to do so under anonymity, just as it is safer for
others to try and twist my words under anonymity, and provide insults,
and be nit picky. I'm a big boy and can take it...

since you know that saying the
> same bigoted remark in the larger world could result in physical harm or worse.
>
>
> -hh
>


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KDT

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Jun 17, 2014, 8:22:17 AM6/17/14
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It's 'bigoted' to simply use a nickname, is it?
----
So if he were Hispanic and you called him "José", you wouldn't think that was bigoted?

Harry Mudd the Fanboy

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Jun 17, 2014, 8:48:15 AM6/17/14
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On 6/17/2014 8:22 AM, KDT wrote:
> It's 'bigoted' to simply use a nickname, is it?
> ----
> So if he were Hispanic and you called him "Jos�", you wouldn't think that was bigoted?
>
Not necessarily. Depends on the context in which it was used....

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Puffin Killer

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Jun 17, 2014, 8:57:48 AM6/17/14
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"Harry Mudd the Fanboy" wrote in message
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He only makes an issue of it to gain attention. He is the biggest
hypocrite here.

It's good to see that Habeeb's panties get tied in knots whenever he's
called, Habeeb.






Puffin Killer

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"Harry Mudd the Fanboy" wrote in message
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Also, notice how Habeeeb is trying to connect socks?

Why?, because the little brown turd has his own collection. He's
another hypocrite.


-hh

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Jun 17, 2014, 9:57:48 AM6/17/14
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Harry Mudd the Fanboy wrote:
> ... If you are offended by it in an ethnic way, I apologize
> and won't use it again.

Thank-you.

> I have no idea of your ethnicity so as to use it as such...


> > it was all done based solely on skin color.
>
> I didn't know that.

The history is all in the archives. Nevertheless, you've
been around long enough to know that namecalling is
invariably done with malicous intent.


> > but you persist anyway, thereby illustrating that you're a bigot.
>
> It's 'bigoted' to simply use a nickname, is it?

AFAIC, yes. Especially when it is unwelcomed.



> >> In fact, the only person who's panties
> >> seem to get in a bunch over it is >you<. ;-)
>
> > Wrong again: you know that it is offensive to several readers here.
>
> The only person I knew it was somehow offensive to was Baker, as he
> always seems to make an issue of it.

Even though KDT was who commented first on it in this subthread? Fail.


> ... But I saw no reason for him to be offended as I never
> used the nickname in reference to him...

People can be offended at insults without themselves being
the object.

But your rationalization that indirect third party insults
can't be offensive carries with it the ramifications that
insults directed at, say, your {Mom/Wife/Girlfriend/Daughter}
are none of your business and you can't take exception
regardless of how outrageous the lies are.



-hh

Alan Baker

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Jun 17, 2014, 10:40:28 AM6/17/14
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LOL

So you know using it is an ethnic slur, but you're OK with doing so:

1. because someone else did it first

2. because you like the reaction?

Is that right?

Alan Baker

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Jun 17, 2014, 10:45:04 AM6/17/14
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Give an example of when it wouldn't be bigoted...

Harry Mudd the Fanboy

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Jun 17, 2014, 3:08:53 PM6/17/14
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How about when I used the term habeeb because I read someone else who did?

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Harry Mudd the Fanboy

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Jun 17, 2014, 3:19:14 PM6/17/14
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On 6/17/2014 9:57 AM, -hh wrote:
> Harry Mudd the Fanboy wrote:
>> ... If you are offended by it in an ethnic way, I apologize
>> and won't use it again.
>
> Thank-you.
>
>> I have no idea of your ethnicity so as to use it as such...
>
>
>>> it was all done based solely on skin color.
>>
>> I didn't know that.
>
> The history is all in the archives.

Maybe so, but I'm not about to go hunt up every reference someone makes...

Nevertheless, you've
> been around long enough to know that namecalling is
> invariably done with malicous intent.
>
>
>>> but you persist anyway, thereby illustrating that you're a bigot.
>>
>> It's 'bigoted' to simply use a nickname, is it?
>
> AFAIC, yes. Especially when it is unwelcomed.


Well, thanks for not letting me know beforehand that it was unwelcome,
I gues that kind of shoots a hole in your claim that I knew it was
unwelcome in the first place...

>
>
>
>>>> In fact, the only person who's panties
>>>> seem to get in a bunch over it is >you<. ;-)
>>
>>> Wrong again: you know that it is offensive to several readers here.
>>
>> The only person I knew it was somehow offensive to was Baker, as he
>> always seems to make an issue of it.
>
> Even though KDT was who commented first on it in this subthread? Fail.

And just what commnt did he make in this subhread? The fact that I
used the term? BFD... His comment said absolutely nothing about his
displeasure at the name.
>
>
>> ... But I saw no reason for him to be offended as I never
>> used the nickname in reference to him...
>
> People can be offended at insults without themselves being
> the object.

Maybe so, if they're pussies who perceive everything as insults, even
when they weren't intended to be...

>
> But your rationalization that indirect third party insults
> can't be offensive carries with it the ramifications that
> insults directed at, say, your {Mom/Wife/Girlfriend/Daughter}
> are none of your business and you can't take exception
> regardless of how outrageous the lies are.


My rationalization in no way is of some generalized third party
insult. It was *percieved* insult by someone given to erroneous
inferences.. frankly, that's his fucking problem, not mine.

Harry Mudd the Fanboy

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Jun 17, 2014, 3:21:19 PM6/17/14
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Your attempt to prove it was an intended ethnic slur is a FAIL.....


but you're OK with doing so:
>
> 1. because someone else did it first
>
> 2. because you like the reaction?
>
> Is that right?
>
1. "No" to the first part of your presumption.

1. Yes,

2. and yes....

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-hh

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Jun 17, 2014, 4:11:29 PM6/17/14
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Harry Mudd the Fanboy wrote:
> -hh wrote:
> > Harry Mudd the Fanboy wrote:
> >> ... If you are offended by it in an ethnic way, I apologize
> >> and won't use it again.
> > Thank-you.
>
> >
> >> I didn't know that.
> > The history is all in the archives.
> Maybe so, but I'm not about to go hunt up every
> reference someone makes...

Even when you get a 'free clue'?


> > Even though KDT was who commented first on it in this subthread? Fail.
>
> And just what commnt did he make in this subhread? The fact that I
> used the term? BFD... His comment said absolutely nothing about his
> displeasure at the name.

Oh? So then just what was his motivation to point it out?


-hh

Harry Mudd the Fanboy

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Jun 17, 2014, 4:23:05 PM6/17/14
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On 6/17/2014 4:11 PM, -hh wrote:
> Harry Mudd the Fanboy wrote:
>> -hh wrote:
>>> Harry Mudd the Fanboy wrote:
>>>> ... If you are offended by it in an ethnic way, I apologize
>>>> and won't use it again.
>>> Thank-you.
>>
>>>
>>>> I didn't know that.
>>> The history is all in the archives.
>> Maybe so, but I'm not about to go hunt up every
>> reference someone makes...
>
> Even when you get a 'free clue'?

And what would that be?
>
>
>>> Even though KDT was who commented first on it in this subthread? Fail.
>>
>> And just what commnt did he make in this subhread? The fact that I
>> used the term? BFD... His comment said absolutely nothing about his
>> displeasure at the name.
>
> Oh? So then just what was his motivation to point it out?

I dunno, ask Karl...

Alan Baker

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Jun 18, 2014, 12:47:54 PM6/18/14
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Do you know what a "circular argument" is?

Harry Mudd the Fanboy

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Jun 18, 2014, 12:57:27 PM6/18/14
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Yes, and this isn't one....

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Alan Baker

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Jun 18, 2014, 1:09:27 PM6/18/14
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Yes, it is.

You:
"Habeeb"

Me:
Can you show me an example that's not an ethnic slur?

You:
My use of it.

That's circular. You're claiming your use of it proves something about
your use of it.

Harry Mudd the Fanboy

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Jun 18, 2014, 2:46:50 PM6/18/14
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Hey dickhead, its >your< claim that there's something about my use of
it, not mine. Don't get it twisted....

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Alan Baker

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Jun 18, 2014, 8:30:11 PM6/18/14
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I asked you as support for your claim that your use is not as an ethnic
slur that you provide examples where such use clearly isn't such a slur.

You replied with your use of it. That is the very definition of circular.

"It's an ethnic slur"

"No it isn't"

"Really? Can you show me a use that wouldn't be an ethnic slur?"

"Yes. Mine"

Circular.

KDT

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Alan Baker

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Jun 18, 2014, 8:43:11 PM6/18/14
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On 2014-06-19 00:37:13 +0000, KDT said:

> Of course you won't post anything about this, which affects far more people.
>
> http://www.informationweek.com/strategic-cio/team-building-and-staffing/yahoo-linkedin-google-not-a-diverse-club/d/d-id/1278664
>

Of course Fanboy won't!

Harry Mudd the Fanboy

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Jun 18, 2014, 9:03:24 PM6/18/14
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Since my usage was not applied to someone of any particular ethnicity
nor was it stated what ethnicity it was aimed at, how >could< it have
been ethnic? therefore my claim of 'my use' stands...

As near as I can figure, the issue of someone other than hh in some
photo (which I've never seen)being brown skinned came up, so somehow
that makes >my< usage of it "ethnic"?????? Like I said, I merely
used it as a nickname with no reference to ethnicity or skin color.

Therefore my use was NOT an ethnic slur...

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Harry Mudd the Fanboy

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Jun 18, 2014, 9:04:21 PM6/18/14
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On 6/18/2014 8:37 PM, KDT wrote:
> Of course you won't post anything about this, which affects far more people.
>
> http://www.informationweek.com/strategic-cio/team-building-and-staffing/yahoo-linkedin-google-not-a-diverse-club/d/d-id/1278664
>
At least Yahoo has a female CEO....

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MuahMan

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Jun 18, 2014, 10:01:00 PM6/18/14
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At least he didn't rightfully call you a Sand Nigger.

MuahMan

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Jun 18, 2014, 10:02:36 PM6/18/14
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Get me another Slurpee and Tacquito you bodega running curry chicken eating fuckstick.

-hh

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Jun 18, 2014, 10:55:07 PM6/18/14
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On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 10:02:36 PM UTC-4, MuahMan wrote:
> [...]
> Get me another Slurpee and Tacquito you bodega running curry chicken eating fuckstick.

Golly, looks like Brian sure is a tad grumpy after finishing his shift down at his local Rite Aid(TM) pharmacy.

Maybe he should have turned it up a notch on the old "Kicking" Stereo on the ride home? ;-)


-hh
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