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eight bitter

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May 12, 2006, 2:58:15 AM5/12/06
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Here is just a fun little informal poll...

What type of video display do you use with your real 8/16 bit Apple II computer?


I'll start.

For my eight bit Apple II computers: Commodore 1702 and Commodore 1084,
both via the Composite Video (RCA style jack)

For my sixteen bit Apple IIgs computers: AppleColor RGB Monitor (standard
IIgs Apple monitor)

sicklittlemonkey

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May 12, 2006, 4:03:47 AM5/12/06
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For my recently acquired //c, the only current option is my 32 inch
high-definition widescreen LCD TV. It gives a surprisingly stable
picture except for the occasional twinkling subpixel.

Michael (Mahon) might be interested to know that Money Munchers' title
screen switching between text and GR produces portions of colour top
and bottom and monochrome in the middle. It's not very stable, but a
digital set obviously loses/locks to the colour burst quickly.

Cheers,
Nick.

Peter de Vroomen

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May 12, 2006, 4:27:12 AM5/12/06
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> What type of video display do you use with your real 8/16 bit Apple II
computer?

Philips CM8833 (aka CBM 1084). I use it for all my computers.

Or my TV with SCART.

I don't have enough space to have all my old computers set up at the same
time.

PeterV


Michael J. Mahon

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May 12, 2006, 4:56:08 AM5/12/06
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That is interesting.

I haven't done the experiment myself, but I'm not surprised that
digital processing skips a lot of the filtering/integration that
analog sets did--after all, they were designed to work with "fringe
area" reception that is all but unknown in today's cable-centric
world.

-michael

Music synthesis for 8-bit Apple II's!
Home page: http://members.aol.com/MJMahon/

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tool--and it is seriously underused."

Michael J. Mahon

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May 12, 2006, 5:03:57 AM5/12/06
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eight bitter wrote:
> Here is just a fun little informal poll...
>
> What type of video display do you use with your real 8/16 bit Apple II computer?

AppleColor Composite for my //e. (I don't use color very often.)

For years, I used a Zenith green-screen monitor for programming and
a 10" Panasonic TV (with a Sup'R'Mod) for color.

Guillaume Tello

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May 12, 2006, 6:19:19 AM5/12/06
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I use a Philips CM8501 with SCART with the "le chat mauve" graphic card.

Guillaume.


Lyrical Nanoha

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May 12, 2006, 6:46:22 AM5/12/06
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On Fri, 12 May 2006, Michael J. Mahon wrote:

> eight bitter wrote:
>> Here is just a fun little informal poll...
>>
>> What type of video display do you use with your real 8/16 bit Apple II
>> computer?
>
> AppleColor Composite for my //e. (I don't use color very often.)
>
> For years, I used a Zenith green-screen monitor for programming and
> a 10" Panasonic TV (with a Sup'R'Mod) for color.

Man, I wish I had a greenscreen monitor for my //, would be much better
than this monitor I got that won't display clearly in 80-column mode. :(

On the plus side, makes a good screen for my DVD player. :)

-uso.

Roger Johnstone

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May 12, 2006, 7:37:08 AM5/12/06
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In <8bit-12050...@192.168.100.100> eight bitter wrote:
> Here is just a fun little informal poll...
>
> What type of video display do you use with your real 8/16 bit Apple II
> computer?

A Kaga RGBvision II. I originally used it with my IIe, with a Taxan-Kaga
RGB IIB card. I bought the monitor and card when the local Apple agent
was having a 'garage sale'. It was missing the short video cable between
the card and back panel, and the computer to monitor cable. Not knowing
how it was supposed to be connected I made my own cables wired up to the
IIgs standard. This was kind of handy, since a year later I bought a
IIgs and just plugged the monitor in with no changes.(1)

(1) Almost. Colour pictures in super hi-res mode didn't look quite right.
The problem became obvious when I looked at a test picture with 16
levels of gray in it: the top 4 or 5 greys all looked pure white! It
seemed the IIgs video levels were too high for the monitor and were
reaching saturation. Adding some resistors in the video lead cut the
levels down and gave a perfect picture.

--
Roger Johnstone, Invercargill, New Zealand
http://roger.geek.nz/
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heuser...@freenet.de

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May 12, 2006, 9:02:14 AM5/12/06
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IIe (gaming and "color tests"): 28" TV set which is NTSC-capable via
video-in

IIgs (gs-specific and programming): Commodore 1081 via SCART-RGB

I also have an Apple IIgs RGB monitor but it is too small for my tastes
and both green (Apple) and amber (Zenith) monochrome monitors. The
latter is already flickering a bit but the green one is ok and will
replace the 1081 when it collapses.

bye
Marcus

Mark Percival

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May 12, 2006, 9:12:36 AM5/12/06
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eight bitter wrote:

> What type of video display do you use with your real 8/16 bit Apple II computer?

On my IIgs I have a standard AppleColor RGB monitor.

On my IIe I use a AppleColor Composite IIe monitor.

I also have sitting in storage an 9" Apple Monitor IIc, a Zenith 11"
green screen monocrome plus an AppleColor 100 RGB. For a while I was
using the AppleColor 100 RGB with my IIe but I find I prefer the
display of the composite monitor instead.

-- Mark

The DiskMaker 8 guy.

http://www.syndicomm.com/~mark/DM8/

Tom Greene

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May 12, 2006, 10:12:32 AM5/12/06
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eight bitter wrote:
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> What type of video display do you use with your real 8/16 bit Apple II computer?
>


For my IIGS I'm using a 19" ViewSonic A90 VGA monitor, via a Micomsoft
XRGB-2+ scan converter.

Tom

David Chiu

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May 12, 2006, 10:47:10 AM5/12/06
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> Here is just a fun little informal poll...
>
> What type of video display do you use with your real 8/16 bit Apple II
> computer?
>
>
> I'll start.
>
> For my eight bit Apple II computers: Commodore 1702 and Commodore 1084,
> both via the Composite Video (RCA style jack)

AppleColor 100 RGB (with working motorized tilt) hanging off AE Ramworks III
w/RGB option.
Apple Composite monochrom monitor (green)

> For my sixteen bit Apple IIgs computers: AppleColor RGB Monitor (standard
> IIgs Apple monitor)

Same here.


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N.N. Thayer

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May 12, 2006, 12:29:35 PM5/12/06
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My Apple II, Apple II Plus, and Apple IIe share the same AppleColor
Composite IIe monitor; my Laser 128EX uses a C.ITOH Chroma Pro RGB
monitor; and my Apple III uses a Monitor III.

Simon D. Williams

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May 12, 2006, 2:00:36 PM5/12/06
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On my B&H ][+ I have a standard green mono Apple monitor cunningly
painted black to match the case.

On my IIe I have a generic 11" amber mono monitor that is by far my
favourite.

My IIgs has both a standard gs monitor as well as a matching platinum
Colour Composite monitor (I have a computereyes card in it). The gs RGB
is nice when it works, but it takes a long time to warm up these days.

My IIc has a IIc monitor, which I really like (I'm not afan of big
monitors).

I also have a cheap 7" composite LCD for my IIc+, but it's really not
much use.

When I first got into "collecting" Apple II junk, I spent a fair bit of
time and money acquiring colour monitors, but now I find that I much
prefer the smaller monochrome monitors.

Liam Busey

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May 12, 2006, 2:00:58 PM5/12/06
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I use a Comodore 1702 with my 8bit Apple ][s for color. In 80 column
mode I use an Apple monitor II or the //c 9" monochrome monitor.

I normally use an Apple Color RGB monitor on my IIgs but sometimes also
use an NEC Multisync 3-D (very versatile) or an Apple Color 100 RGB.

On the lookout for an Amdek 300a. I'd like to experiment with the
interlace modes of the Videx Ultraterm and the VOC.


Liam

Luke Forat

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May 12, 2006, 5:49:37 PM5/12/06
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I use an original Apple Computers Green phosphor monitor (the one with
tiltable CRT) with my IIe and an original Apple color monitor with my IIGS
and they both work like a charm.

Additionally I sometimes use a PAL to VGA adapter to hook my IIe up to
my 19" Samsung LCD but the colors aren't really right!

Luke

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Mitchell Spector

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May 12, 2006, 5:55:05 PM5/12/06
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8b...@noemail.nonet (eight bitter) wrote:

>Here is just a fun little informal poll...
>
>What type of video display do you use with your real 8/16 bit Apple II computer?

For my 8-bit Apple II's I generally plug them directly into my TV set
(composite input) though alternatively I have some stand alone color
composite monitors, and of course several monochrome monitors too.

The Apple III gets a monochrome display but I have several digital
RGB compatible monitors (but not yet had a chance to try them, or on
my Apple IIe with RGB card for that matter). My Apple IIc Plus uses a
vintage C-Vue LCD display--I was lucky enough to find one.

Finally, my Apple IIGS's typical use the AppleColor RGB, or the TV
set through the Video Overlay Card (and the Second Sight allows the
use of any VGA display but I almost never use because its so poor).
I also have several other RGB and NTSC-compatible VGA monitors
for my IIGS but only tried one so far.

Here's a list of my display I have for my Apple II's...

- Apple Monitor II (monochrome)
- Apple Monitor III (monochrome)
- Apple Monitor IIc (monochrome)
- ElectroHome 9" (monochrome)
- C-Vue (monochrome LCD)
- Zenith ZVM-135 (composite, digital RGB)
- Amiga 1080 (composite, digital RGB, analog RGB)
- AppleColor RGB (analog RGB)
- NEC MultiSync 3D (digital RGB, analog RGB)
- Sony CPD-1302 (digital RGB, analog RGB)

Mitchell Spector

heuser...@freenet.de

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May 12, 2006, 6:20:11 PM5/12/06
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> Here's a list of my display I have for my Apple II's...

Poll coming up next week:

Which hangar do you use for computer storage?

scnr

bye
Marcus

Matthew Carpenter

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May 13, 2006, 3:08:58 AM5/13/06
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eight bitter wrote:
> Here is just a fun little informal poll...
>
> What type of video display do you use with your real 8/16 bit Apple II computer?


On my IIe I use an AppleColor Composite IIe monitor

On my IIgs I use an AppleColor RGB monitor.

I also have a NEC multisync monitor that works with the IIgs, but I
don't like that it underscans. In addition I also have a Commodore 1084
monitor, but I never got a cable to hook it up to my IIgs. Mostly that
gets used for all my game consoles, my VCR(which I use mainly for it's
tuner), My Commodore 64, and my Amiga 2000.

-Matthew S. Carpenter

Scott Alfter

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May 14, 2006, 2:15:24 AM5/14/06
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>Here is just a fun little informal poll...
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>What type of video display do you use with your real 8/16 bit Apple II
>computer?

I don't have enough monitors to go around, but of the systems that are
usable, I have an Apple Monitor II connected to a IIe and an NEC MultiSync
3D connected to a IIGS. I also have a Zenith amber-screen monitor kicking
around here somewhere.

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PZ

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May 15, 2006, 10:01:39 AM5/15/06
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I use a Sony GVM-1311Q Medical Grade RGB on the GS, I have a Apple IIGS
RGB via a Colorlink option on a Ramworks III for my IIe system.

>Poll coming up next week:
>
>Which hangar do you use for computer storage?

Are you referring to my hangar in Ohio, or my hangar in Colorado? I
wasn't cabable of transporting the contents of my Ohio hangar to
Colorado when I moved, so I got another one.

- Paul

heuser...@freenet.de

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May 15, 2006, 12:24:18 PM5/15/06
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>> Poll coming up next week:
>>
>> Which hangar do you use for computer storage?
>
> Are you referring to my hangar in Ohio, or my hangar in Colorado? I
> wasn't cabable of transporting the contents of my Ohio hangar to
> Colorado when I moved, so I got another one.

What did the Air Force say, when you kicked them out of the NORAD HQ?

;o)

bye
Marcus

Mike Spurgeon

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May 15, 2006, 1:06:08 PM5/15/06
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It was probably the Wright-Patterson computer center that irked them the
most.

Let's just say I've seen it, and it was big...

BLuRry

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May 15, 2006, 2:45:36 PM5/15/06
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Probably something like "Greetings, Professor Falken. How about a nice
game of chess?"

PZ

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May 16, 2006, 1:24:19 AM5/16/06
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Thats really funny, since I attended Wright State in Dayton back in the
90's.

NORAD on the other hand just took my pile of //e's and GS's and made a
beuwolf cluster. They lease time on it to the NSA, some colonel
mentioned something about Hacker II. <shrugs> :-P

- Paul

Michael J. Mahon

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May 16, 2006, 4:35:15 AM5/16/06
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Hey, that's what NadaNet is for! ;-)

-michael

Parallel computing for 8-bit Apple II's!

Knut Roll-Lund

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May 16, 2006, 6:17:44 PM5/16/06
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eight bitter wrote:
> What type of video display do you use with your real 8/16 bit Apple II computer?

For my IIe with the Apple/Video-7 RGB card a CGA monitor (IBM 5153)
using an own built interface. Sometimes also the NTSC output with a
monochrome Philips 12" or a multisync monitor (HP 19") through a pc with
an old framegrabber.

The CGA monitor belongs to an IBM AT with a CGA card and I also have a
Genie-I with an own built CGA interface. I sometimes use the CGA monitor
with the Genie-I.

The Philips 12" was originally bought for my old Video Genie but is a
very flexible and good monitor so it gets used with many computers.

Hangar no - computer room yes. It's not that big a room but I have here
10 monitors and 20 computers at the moment. Have some KVM switches but
not all the computers are attached to a monitor now.

Knut

Michael J. Mahon

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May 17, 2006, 5:30:28 PM5/17/06
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Lyrical Nanoha wrote:
> On Fri, 12 May 2006, Michael J. Mahon wrote:
>
>> eight bitter wrote:
>>
>>> Here is just a fun little informal poll...
>>>
>>> What type of video display do you use with your real 8/16 bit Apple
>>> II computer?
>>
>>
>> AppleColor Composite for my //e. (I don't use color very often.)
>>
>> For years, I used a Zenith green-screen monitor for programming and
>> a 10" Panasonic TV (with a Sup'R'Mod) for color.
>
>
> Man, I wish I had a greenscreen monitor for my //, would be much better
> than this monitor I got that won't display clearly in 80-column mode. :(

There's one for sale on eBay (#140000037676) with quite reasonable
shipping...

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