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Gary Thom

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Jan 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/8/97
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Hi there,


any word on the possibility of using a FAT32 drive with NT4 other than
making it NTFS, mainly as it's a dual boot system.

TIA Gary


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It involves Russia.
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Jose Almeida

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Jan 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/8/97
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No way Microsoft clearly states in NT 4 Manuals that NT 4 does not support
FAT 32, Also in MS site there is no reference to that in the furture

Regards,

Gary Thom <10132...@compuserve.com> wrote in article
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Born Dead

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Jan 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/9/97
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They have also stated that NT 5 is not *planned* to support it either.

Born Dead

Eric Gisin

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Jan 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/9/97
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In article <32d94225...@news.erols.com>, born...@c2.org says...

> They have also stated that NT 5 is not *planned* to support it either.

However, they have said you will be able to migrate from the 95-97 stream
to NT (presumably 5), so there will have to be a FAT32 -> NTFS converter.

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Eric Gisin, London.on.ca -- Windows/UNIX/Internet Consulting
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Edison M. Castro

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Jan 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/9/97
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They have not say that; according to the information distributed to several
organizations FAT 32 will be supported on NT 5.0

Born Dead <born...@c2.org> wrote in article
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> On 8 Jan 1997 12:59:42 GMT, "Jose Almeida" <jose.a...@ip.pt> wrote:
>
> >No way Microsoft clearly states in NT 4 Manuals that NT 4 does not
support
> >FAT 32, Also in MS site there is no reference to that in the furture
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Gary Thom <10132...@compuserve.com> wrote in article
> ><32d34e64...@153.73.1.19>...
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >>
> >> any word on the possibility of using a FAT32 drive with NT4 other than
> >> making it NTFS, mainly as it's a dual boot system.
> >>
> >> TIA Gary
> >>
> >>
> >> I took a speed reading course and read War and Peace in twenty
minutes.
> >> It involves Russia.
> >> -Woody Allen
> >>

> They have also stated that NT 5 is not *planned* to support it either.
>

> Born Dead
>

Born Dead

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Jan 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/9/97
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More than likely this will be the way they do it ... as they are
moving towards a common file system. FAT32 isn't the file system MS
wants NT to run on. If you've noticed ... Win95 doesn't support OS/2's
HPFS but still will allow you to upgrade from an HPFS partition.

Born Dead

On Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:31:53 -0500, er...@mnsi.net (Eric Gisin) wrote:

>> They have also stated that NT 5 is not *planned* to support it either.
>

Jeremy Patrick

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Jan 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/10/97
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On 8 Jan 1997 12:59:42 GMT, "Jose Almeida" <jose.a...@ip.pt> wrote:
>No way Microsoft clearly states in NT 4 Manuals that NT 4 does not support
>FAT 32, Also in MS site there is no reference to that in the furture
>
I believe FAT 32 compatibility is planned for NT v.5.
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Jeremy Patrick, Keele, Staffordshire, England.
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kneehighspy

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Jan 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/10/97
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according to microsoft (as stated in memphis docs):

Will FAT32 be faster than FAT16?
In general, no. FAT32 performance will usually be about the same as
FAT16, but in some cases, it may be a bit slower. The major benefits
of FAT32 are that it's more efficient than FAT16 on larger disks
(sometimes by as much as 20-30%), and that it can support drives
larger than 2 GB without having to use multiple partitions.

Note that in real-mode MS-DOS or when running Windows 95 in Safe Mode,
FAT32 will be considerably slower than FAT16. If you need to run
applications in MS-DOS mode, loading SmartDrv.EXE in Autoexec.bat may
be beneficial.

What should I test?
The best way to help us test FAT32 is to enable it using one of the
methods described above (ideally to install Windows 95 MEMPHIS onto a
fresh FAT32 hard drive) and then (re)install all of your applications
onto your FAT32 drive and verify that they setup and run properly.
We'd also like you to focus on verifying that your Backup, Anti-Virus
and MS-DOS mode games and applications continue to function as they
did under "gold" Windows 95.

Can I dual boot Windows NT if I use FAT32?
In general, no. Windows NT (including version 4.0) cannot access or
boot from a FAT32 drive, so if you need to dual boot Windows NT, you
should not use FAT32 except on a non-boot drive that you don't need to
access from NT.

Will Windows NT ever support FAT32?
This is still under investigation, but Windows NT 4.0 will definitely
not support FAT32 in its initial release. We recognize that this will
prevent some of you from testing FAT32, and we're sorry that we can't
provide FAT32 support in Windows NT at this time. Please understand
that the issue is not whether we think customers want FAT32 support
under Windows NT, but is strictly a matter of development and test
resources and our existing release commitments. We're actively
working on plans for converging file system support between Windows 95
and Windows NT (including ensuring that Win9x customers with FAT32
drives will have an upgrade path to Windows NT), but we can't make any
specific commitments at this time.

Why didn't Microsoft just add NTFS to Windows 95, rather than
introduce another file system?
We certainly considered NTFS, but it didn't meet three requirements
that we felt were critical for Windows 95: Windows 95 boots using
real-mode MS-DOS and supports MS-DOS mode for games and other
applications that cannot run under a multitasking OS. Supporting NTFS
under DOS would have taken a significant amount of very limited DOS
memory and thus would have impaired Windows' ability to continue to
support these applications. Implementing NTFS without DOS support
would have meant that two disk partitions would have been required: a
FAT partition to boot from, plus the main NTFS partition. We felt
that for Win9x customers, a solution that allowed a single drive
letter was critical. Secondly, based on feedback from PC and disk
drive manufacturers, it's clear that a significant percentage of new
PCs will ship with >2GB hard drives in the second half of this year.
Given the sophistication and complexity of NTFS, we felt that it would
have been impossible to complete and test an NTFS implementation until
well after this problem had become acute. Finally, because NTFS has
such a different on-disk format than FAT, we felt that FAT32 was much
less likely to introduce application compatibility problems.

Is Microsoft going to make FAT32 available to current Windows 95
customers, or only with new machines?
At this time, FAT32 is strictly part of Memphis, which PC
manufacturers will begin shipping with new machines this summer. We
expect to have an updated retail release which includes FAT32 support
in 1997..

Is the FAT16->FAT32 converter part of MEMPHIS?
No. The conversion tool was created solely to facilitate internal and
beta testing of FAT32.

clear?

kneehighspy

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