Gentoo Emerge Report 12/14

[F Russell]

Gentoo emerge updated the following packages by downloading
the source files and compiling with gcc:

bison
libcap
libtasn1
procps
gnutls
vdpauinfo
libxml2
gnupg
git
guile
cmake
imlib2
doxygen
debianutils
nvidia-drivers


How much time was required for all of this "heavy lifting?"

I cannot accurately assess. I went to take a shit and when
I returned the process was already complete.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Hail Linux!

Hail GNU and the FSF!

Hail Stallman!

[flatfish+++]

On 14 Dec 2019 15:17:35 GMT, F Russell <f...@random.info> wrote:

>Gentoo emerge updated the following packages by downloading
>the source files and compiling with gcc:
>
>bison
>libcap
>libtasn1
>procps
>gnutls
>vdpauinfo
>libxml2
>gnupg
>git
>guile
>cmake
>imlib2
>doxygen
>debianutils
>nvidia-drivers
>
>
>How much time was required for all of this "heavy lifting?"
>
>I cannot accurately assess. I went to take a shit and when
>I returned the process was already complete.

You seem to enjoy tinkering a lot.
So when do you actually use the system rather than tinkering with it?
And what actual work do you accomplish?

>Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Linux sometimes makes me laugh too.
I agree.

>Hail Linux!
>
>Hail GNU and the FSF!

What flavor of Kool-Aid do you drink?

>Hail Stallman!

Jail Stallman would be more appropriate.

[Steve Carroll]

He's a composer, remember? He 'composes' stacked sine wave harmonics into
square waves... I heard he can now do it at the touch of an "ersatz" button ;)

[flatfish+++]

I have my own term for that. I call it Conceptual "Music".
It's "music" that was composed following, to the letter, the rules of
music, tonality and so forth and while on paper it looks to be
perfect, when the "music" is actually performed, it sounds horrible.

This feeb clown is a hilarious troll. Hopefully we don't scare him
away because I'm having too much fun watching his posts.

[Steve Carroll]

But Feeb's 'music' is microtonal and 'performed' by a computer using
those 'magic' sounds. Somewhere, there's a post where he explains
how his MIDI input device is a keyboard... no, not that kind... his is an
old computer keyboard he rigged for the purpose and he 'plays' it.
This is how he considers himself a 'musician'. (note: no smiley)

> This feeb clown is a hilarious troll. Hopefully we don't scare him
> away because I'm having too much fun watching his posts.

Like Snit, he has nowhere else to go, At least Snit has an amiable aspect
to his personality, even if it is just the means by which he pushes his BS.

[Steve Carroll]

mGhost just wiped his ass with Peter the Cöwardly Liön. Enjoy the accommodations in the packed garbage dump of my KF. Peter the Cöwardly Liön failed to show a case study of a prosperous business that has gained its position by not giving a damn about its customers or wares. You're like a pregnant woman hiding behind a very skinny tree. We all see you there and thinking you are being clever. And you're so ignorant you keep rejecting it. What's Peter the Cöwardly Liön's method for the flooding deluge? JavaScript? That is the only database he knows, and it is a joke. He must be using it to create these idiotic "spam" idiotic threads. My idea, Peter the Cöwardly Liön took the chatbot that he stole and blamed mGhost for... he is feeding it data from the program, grabbing offensive paragraphs, then editing those using the MaxCliqueDyn Maximum Clique algorithm and then he annoyingly posts them because his insomnia enables him to do that essentially constantly. The entire farce is full of ridiculous cracks and counts heavily on Peter the Cöwardly Liön's 'home made CMS' horseplay.

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[flatfish+++]

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 08:01:30 -0800 (PST), Steve Carroll

Oh my.
I listened to a couple of the examples of music created with Linux
that he has posted and all were terrible.

>> This feeb clown is a hilarious troll. Hopefully we don't scare him
>> away because I'm having too much fun watching his posts.
>
>Like Snit, he has nowhere else to go, At least Snit has an amiable aspect
>to his personality, even if it is just the means by which he pushes his BS.

Snit seems to have mellowed from what I can see. His examples of
Linux failing do seem to get the Linux advocates all wound up even if
those examples are contrived.

[Snit]

What has happened is I no longer respond to trolling AS MUCH. And when I
do, which is still too often, I do it a bit differently.

I also am calling our Carroll’s obvious socks — which makes it harder for
him to blame me. You can see examples of that from the last few days.

Or you can not even look and focus on tech. Which is really what the focus
should be on — not Carroll’s cries for attention.

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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.

[Steve Carroll]

IMO whenever you're doing things like horns or strings and you leave
articulation out, it usually sounds funky (and not in a good way). Feeb
put material consisting of 2 violins like that without even realizing the
role articulations play... very weird (even the most clueless lay person
knows better).

> >> This feeb clown is a hilarious troll. Hopefully we don't scare him
> >> away because I'm having too much fun watching his posts.
> >
> >Like Snit, he has nowhere else to go, At least Snit has an amiable aspect
> >to his personality, even if it is just the means by which he pushes his BS.
>
> Snit seems to have mellowed from what I can see.

Maybe you need to renew your eye glass prescription? ;)

> His examples of
> Linux failing do seem to get the Linux advocates all wound up even if
> those examples are contrived.

If that's all he ever did (or has shown he's willing to limit things to) I doubt
anyone would ever have shunned him the way they have (and probably
will again before too long).

[flatfish+++]

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 09:43:04 -0800 (PST), Steve Carroll

Yes. Couple that with someone who cut and pasting the entire piece.

>> >> This feeb clown is a hilarious troll. Hopefully we don't scare him
>> >> away because I'm having too much fun watching his posts.
>> >
>> >Like Snit, he has nowhere else to go, At least Snit has an amiable aspect
>> >to his personality, even if it is just the means by which he pushes his BS.
>>
>> Snit seems to have mellowed from what I can see.
>
>Maybe you need to renew your eye glass prescription? ;)

Actually I do have to get new glasses.
Thanks for reminding me.

>> His examples of
>> Linux failing do seem to get the Linux advocates all wound up even if
>> those examples are contrived.
>
>If that's all he ever did (or has shown he's willing to limit things to) I doubt
>anyone would ever have shunned him the way they have (and probably
>will again before too long).

He complains about things that may or may not have happened between
the two of you and how he wants it to stop yet he is the one bringing
up the topic, in extreme detail, most of the time.

If he wants to discuss technology he should just stick to that and not
even mention the wars you two seem to have.

[F Russell]

>>
>>IMO whenever you're doing things like horns or strings and you leave
>>articulation out, it usually sounds funky (and not in a good way). Feeb
>>put material consisting of 2 violins like that without even realizing the
>>role articulations play... very weird (even the most clueless lay person
>>knows better).
>

Yet when I posted two versions of the same piece with one performed
by humans and the other performed by machine you couldn't tell the
fucking difference.

You could not determine which was which!!

Therefore, all your pontifications are just empty hot air. When
it comes down to the REAL WORLD all your ideas are complete bullshit.


Also, this forum is not a virtual Starbucks. So take your Apphole
garbage and go sit somewhere else.

Pompous idiot.

[Steve Carroll]

On Saturday, December 14, 2019 at 11:17:56 AM UTC-7, F Russell wrote:
> >>
> >>IMO whenever you're doing things like horns or strings and you leave
> >>articulation out, it usually sounds funky (and not in a good way). Feeb
> >>put material consisting of 2 violins like that without even realizing the
> >>role articulations play... very weird (even the most clueless lay person
> >>knows better).
> >
>
> Yet when I posted two versions of the same piece with one performed
> by humans and the other performed by machine you couldn't tell the
> fucking difference.
>
> You could not determine which was which!!

When there are no articulations, which is what real musicians bring to the table,
no one can tell. I can play synthesized sounds that sound robotic, that's why I
showed you that example, fool. I even gave you a score to input to see if you
could make it sound like the version I played that contained articulations. IOW,
you *still* don't understand what is being discussed, even after having had it
explained to you over and over.

[Steve Carroll]

Fretwizzer and Frelwizzen are both Vallor. This has been proved time and time again. He claims it is a "forger" or a "hacker", but:

* The "forger" is psychic and knows when Vallor is going to start and stop posting.
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/carroll-forger>
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/carroll-forger2>
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/carroll-forger3>
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/carroll-forger4>
This pattern repeats itself over and over... those are just some examples.

* Vallor twists and lies to say it is merely a sign of a "forger" posting at about the same time. Why lie if he is not hiding something?

* Vallor has (at least apparently) done the same nonsense before with socks: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/stevedward>.

* Vallor repeatedly blamed Snit for forging him but has also admitted he lied and "doubts" it is him doing so.

* Vallor has used multiple accounts to accuse people of forging him.

* Vallor clearly has been watching what IPs the "forger" is using and listed them.

* Vallor pointed to <https://www.torproject.org> which makes it trivial to use multiple IP addresses with their Tor Browser.

* Vallor lies about being able to use that software, claiming he has "no idea how this can be done".

* Vallor himself pointed out that even his "normal" email address has been posted through proxies, just like his "forger" has been doing, but he says this is because Google or his ISP somehow forces this.

* Vallor claimed he thought using the Tor Browser would make Google Groups look completely different. Absurd. Why tell such a lie if he is not trying to obfuscate the issue?


<giggle> It's a crank call. Vallor has already decided what he is going to say before he calls. What you say does not matter. What Peter Köhlmann says does not matter. I just configured a filter and won't be impacted by the posts. Vallor's attack has made a ruin of this group via GG, so I don't endeavor trolling your posts with my phone anymore. One thing he has accomplished with this behavior though is that the Vallor boycott has been shown to clearly be the right thing.

Budgie is perhaps my second favorite DE and the only one I recommend to Linux morons. Primary interface is Unity, though. A modern look is all you require after dealing with OS X.

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[Snit]

Have you considered giving up your obsession with me and ending your insane
sock usage to attack me so you can pretend others share your delusions?
Yesterday you were begging me to prove to you that you are you. Do you not
see how far over the edge you have gone again?

Next you will find yourself unable to stick to Usenet. You risk going back
to harassment of people in my life. Already you are fishing for
information, trying to find where I work and what my new site is.

Last time you went down this path you went so over the top one of my
clients got the police involved to end your harassment. You blamed me.

Just stop now. No more socks. Stop your flood bot. Stop making vague
accusations or pulling up crap from years ago not even you believe to be
true.

Just stop. Post about music and tech. When you do that you can be a
reasonable person. Can’t you at least TRY?

[Snit]

I reference them in response. I do not bring them up out of the blue.

But let’s try it: no responses to Carroll’s mindless attacks for a day or
so. Watch him crack and pull in sock after sock.

He truly cannot stop himself.

[Steve Carroll]

It was William 'Super Troll' Poaster who was openly asking how better to obscure his nonsense. I am working on code which will be more than anything William 'Super Troll' Poaster can do!

There is no question at least some of the posts are hand generated because some of them tap into what mGhost said in very specific ways with attempts to mislead on specific issues.

Ending support for command line holdovers is needed for progress. Turns out William 'Super Troll' Poaster's persistent referencing of mGhost met the agreed on criteria of trolling, so he accused mGhost of making that up.

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[Steve Carroll]

Snit... *still* believing that people are as stupid as he needs them to
be.

[flatfish+++]

He's like a broken record. Same thing over and over and over.
All he has to do is ignore the attacks, stop turning every thread into
some self pity diatribe about himself and instead talk about
technology, Linux, Apple, whatever.

I'm trying to give him a chance, but he's got one foot in the bozo bin
already so I'm not sure how long he will last.

That part is up to him.

[Snit]

>>> But let’s try it: no responses to Carroll’s mindless attacks for a day or

>>> so. Watch him crack and pull in sock after sock.
>>
>> Snit... *still* believing that people are as stupid as he needs them to
>> be.
>
> He's like a broken record. Same thing over and over and over.
> All he has to do is ignore the attacks, stop turning every thread into
> some self pity diatribe about himself and instead talk about
> technology, Linux, Apple, whatever.
>
> I'm trying to give him a chance, but he's got one foot in the bozo bin
> already so I'm not sure how long he will last.
>
> That part is up to him.
>

There goes the idea of not responding to Carroll's crap. He is good at
pulling people in. Look at him... Carroll is a broken record, repeating
the same attacks over and over and over. Vague, nonsense, dishonest
attacks.

Look at his over-used one here. He claims I want people to be stupid...
when the exact opposite is true. But he does not even pretend to quote
me suggesting such a thing. Just an attack. Then he will blame me for
his bot and his socks and his harassment of my clients and whatever
else. Non-stop.

I was serious: if you want to see the crap end, great! So do I. Respond
to Carroll when he is speaking about tech. Or when he speaks of music.
Or whatever. But for JUST A DAY OR SO, let's ignore his mindless insults
and attacks against me.

Just a day or so.

He will crumble if we do so. He cannot stand it. It is 100% predictable.

Then you can go back to humoring him... just a day or so. And JUST his
mindless trolling attacks.

[Steve Carroll]

>>> But let’s try it: no responses to Carroll’s mindless attacks for a day or

>>> so. Watch him crack and pull in sock after sock.
>>
>>Snit... *still* believing that people are as stupid as he needs them to
>>be.
>
> He's like a broken record. Same thing over and over and over.
> All he has to do is ignore the attacks, stop turning every thread into
> some self pity diatribe about himself and instead talk about
> technology, Linux, Apple, whatever.
>
> I'm trying to give him a chance, but he's got one foot in the bozo bin
> already so I'm not sure how long he will last.

Depends... what's the date on the bottle? ;)

> That part is up to him.

Then we already know how long he'll last...

[Steve Carroll]

LOL!

Are you having some delusion where you believe that Flattie agreed with
you? I think you'd have to stop word twisting, projection, lying and a
few other things before that'd ever happen. People are telling you that
you're being given a chance and you don't seem to care. Are you really
*this* mentally ill?

> Look at his over-used one here. He claims I want people to be stupid...

I claimed no such thing... but you *clearly* believe they are stupid.

> when the exact opposite is true. But he does not even pretend to quote
> me suggesting such a thing.

You "suggest" it all the time. I dunno, maybe you *are* this sick...

> I was serious: if you want to see the crap end, great! So do I. Respond
> to Carroll when he is speaking about tech. Or when he speaks of music.
> Or whatever.

You're actually trying to control *how* someone posts? LOL!

> But for JUST A DAY OR SO, let's ignore his mindless insults
> and attacks against me.
>
> Just a day or so.
>
> He will crumble if we do so. He cannot stand it. It is 100% predictable.
>
> Then you can go back to humoring him... just a day or so. And JUST his
> mindless trolling attacks.

I don't think begging is gonna help you, Snit ;)

[flatfish+++]

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 19:45:06 -0000 (UTC), Steve Carroll <"Steve

I read snit's post 3 times and honestly I can't figure out what he is
trying to say?
I didn't agree to anything.

I converse with you because I enjoy it and we have a lot in common.
I converse with snit, because at times, when he focuses on technical
issues, he makes valid points.

I have my own opinions and suspicions and other to offer some basic
advice once in a while I keep out of it.

>> Look at his over-used one here. He claims I want people to be stupid...
>
>I claimed no such thing... but you *clearly* believe they are stupid.
>
>> when the exact opposite is true. But he does not even pretend to quote
>> me suggesting such a thing.
>
>You "suggest" it all the time. I dunno, maybe you *are* this sick...
>
>> I was serious: if you want to see the crap end, great! So do I. Respond
>> to Carroll when he is speaking about tech. Or when he speaks of music.
>> Or whatever.
>
>You're actually trying to control *how* someone posts? LOL!
>
>> But for JUST A DAY OR SO, let's ignore his mindless insults
>> and attacks against me.
>>
>> Just a day or so.
>>
>> He will crumble if we do so. He cannot stand it. It is 100% predictable.
>>
>> Then you can go back to humoring him... just a day or so. And JUST his
>> mindless trolling attacks.
>
>I don't think begging is gonna help you, Snit ;)

I have no horse in this race so if you post something I'm interested
in, I will reply and the same goes for snit.

[Snit]

flatfish+++ <flat...@songwriter.net> wrote:
...

> I read snit's post 3 times and honestly I can't figure out what he is
> trying to say?
> I didn't agree to anything.

Pretty much my request is to do as you were speaking of — for a day, at
least, ignore the crap. I am ignoring Carroll’s.

If he talks tech or whatever that is fine. I am open to responding to that.
But bizarre insults and accusations and other such nonsense is being
ignored. Again, for a day. If he cannot get it out of his system by then I
will counter any lie or attack I see fit. I won’t start anything — I have
no reason to and want the crap to be done. Have wanted that for years.

> I converse with you because I enjoy it and we have a lot in common.
> I converse with snit, because at times, when he focuses on technical
> issues, he makes valid points.

Sure.

> I have my own opinions and suspicions and other to offer some basic
> advice once in a while I keep out of it.

I would love to be left entirely out of it. Leave all the crap in the past.


...

> I have no horse in this race so if you post something I'm interested
> in, I will reply and the same goes for snit.

I don’t even want there to be a race. I don’t get why there has to be any
fight at all.

[Steve Carroll]

On Saturday, December 14, 2019 at 4:46:57 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> flatfish+++ <flat...@songwriter.net> wrote:
> ...
> > I read snit's post 3 times and honestly I can't figure out what he is
> > trying to say?
> > I didn't agree to anything.
>
> Pretty much my request is to do as you were speaking of — for a day, at
> least, ignore the crap. I am ignoring Carroll’s.

The issue isn't between Flattie and I, so why should you request anything
of her in this regard? And your response made it look like she was the one
who bailed on an agreement of some kind where none existed. Weird.

> If he talks tech or whatever that is fine. I am open to responding to that.

I tried talking to you about tech, you did what you always do <shrug>.

> But bizarre insults and accusations and other such nonsense is being
> ignored. Again, for a day. If he cannot get it out of his system by then I
> will counter any lie or attack I see fit. I won’t start anything — I have
> no reason to and want the crap to be done. Have wanted that for years.

You're lying and everyone who's read more than 5 of your posts knows it.
Face it, Snit, even the stupidest of idiots knows that actions speak louder
than words. The only question is: Why are you *still* (after ~17 years!)
trying to convince people with words when they are consistently proven
to be false? If you want what you claim it'll have to be demonstrated via
actions, not your words. Your latest example:

"The police talked to me on the phone about Carroll harassing a client of
mine. I knew they talked to Carroll because they said so. I had no idea it
was face to face at his front door until he talked about it." - Snit

Total BS and this is exactly what I mean, they don't make calls like this
because they need to be sure who they're talking to and they don't follow
up on things they are *not* writing a report about. If you are a fact witness
they need to verify it for that report. IOW, your lies are *so* ridiculous you
don't realize the extent to which they are.

[Snit]

On 12/14/19 5:25 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> If he talks tech or whatever that is fine. I am open to responding to that.

> I tried talking to you about tech

Cool. Right now I am running Mint with Xfce on it as a media machine.
What distros are you uses? What type tasks are you doing with Linux?

We have also added ChromeBooks to our home computing -- which are Linux,
though not what is generally seen as "desktop Linux". Actually been
quite happy with them, and while they are limited, they are also far
cheaper than Mac notebooks. They are excellent for the kids' school work.

[Steve Carroll]

On Saturday, December 14, 2019 at 5:32:06 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> On 12/14/19 5:25 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >> If he talks tech or whatever that is fine. I am open to responding to that.
>
> > I tried talking to you about tech
>
> Cool. Right now I am

... *way* overmedicated and still making sh*t up? Yeah, I know ;)

I just got a call from a guy named Bruce Waldo of the Aurora Behavioral
Health System in AZ, he asked if I saw someone fitting your description
in my area. Apparently you've escaped.

So... I guess this is "proof" you really are nutz.

[Joel]

Your obsession with Snit is really pathetic. You're writing bullshit
like the above as if that doesn't hint at you being behind the anti-
Snit socks. Well, it does hint at that, Steve - in fact, it gives the
notion significant credibility.

I am skeptical that you will ever act in good faith toward Snit. It
seems that your preoccupation is pathological.

--
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[Snit]

Here is the deal: if he can talk about tech I might very well be
willing. I have asked what Linux distro he is using these days. Maybe he
and I can compare what we like. Whatever. Just sick of the endless,
mindless war.

[mGhost]

On 2019-12-15, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 12/14/19 5:25 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> If he talks tech or whatever that is fine. I am open to responding to that.
>
>> I tried talking to you about tech
>
> Cool. Right now I am running Mint with Xfce on it as a media machine.
> What distros are you uses? What type tasks are you doing with Linux?
>
> We have also added ChromeBooks to our home computing -- which are Linux,
> though not what is generally seen as "desktop Linux". Actually been
> quite happy with them, and while they are limited, they are also far
> cheaper than Mac notebooks. They are excellent for the kids' school work.
>

How much did you pay for the chromebook?

[Snit]

Two different models for somewhat different needs — but together under $500
(though warrantees push it over that). Really a pretty good deal for
machines the kids can use wherever.

[Steve Carroll]

How would John Gohde understand me if you understand there is a possibility that I use shills? That literally does not cause you want to huff glue? This is the so-called improved 'standard' by those calling themselves 'leftists', you must 'exonerate' yourself, you are no longer merely suspected, you're deemed guilty until you clear your name, which I can not do in this situation.

And you _do_ realize that it isn't impossible for mGhost to be doing this, or encouraging those who are. No no. mGhost never agreed to stop accusing good people of being like him. He lied about his trolling just as you would expect. Ending support for DOS programs is what it comes down to. The content is a bunch of gibbering bullshit. We know there are only a few people who do that. Nobody is being controlled by RMS. mGhost claims to be the programming-teacher. Let's see him put up a variant minus the shipping/handling routines.

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[Steve Carroll]

On Saturday, December 14, 2019 at 6:56:26 PM UTC-7, Joel Crump wrote:
> Steve Carroll <fretw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Saturday, December 14, 2019 at 5:32:06 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> >> On 12/14/19 5:25 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >>
> >> >> If he talks tech or whatever that is fine. I am open to responding to that.
> >>
> >> > I tried talking to you about tech
> >>
> >> Cool. Right now I am
> >
> >... *way* overmedicated and still making sh*t up? Yeah, I know ;)
> >
> >I just got a call from a guy named Bruce Waldo of the Aurora Behavioral
> >Health System in AZ, he asked if I saw someone fitting your description
> >in my area. Apparently you've escaped.
> >
> >So... I guess this is "proof" you really are nutz.
>
>
> Your obsession with Snit is really pathetic.

What's obsessive and pathetic is the lying he's done for over 17 years.

> You're writing bullshit

Bullsh*t? How do you know it it didn't happen? My "proof" is far better
than what he gave as I provided an organization and a name to contact.
Oh, wait, I forgot, Snit is your friend so reality can be suspended. Here's
some more reality you can ignore... the cops wouldn't tell him if they had
contacted me... and here's the real kicker... they would've contacted all
parties *before* contacting me. See if your tiny brain can figure out why.

[Steve Carroll]

On Saturday, December 14, 2019 at 5:32:06 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:

> On 12/14/19 5:25 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >> If he talks tech or whatever that is fine. I am open to responding to that.
>
> > I tried talking to you about tech
>
> Cool. Right now I am running Mint with Xfce on it as a media machine.
> What distros are you uses? What type tasks are you doing with Linux?
>
> We have also added ChromeBooks to our home computing -- which are Linux,
> though not what is generally seen as "desktop Linux".

It's Linux... it's on a laptop, which is, for all intents and purposes (from
the OS standpoint), a desktop class computer... so it's as "desktop Linux"
as it needs to be. Desktops are "generally seen" to be losing marketshare
to mobile devices now <shrug>.

[flatfish+++]

Do your research Joel.
Snit is the one who brought up the police incident and he's offering
no proof it ever occurred.

Steve is just being sarcastic.

Snit is forever making these wild claims and basically tossing them at
the wall to see what sticks. I don't know what his motive is other
than what I see from his posting and that clearly demonstrates that he
needs to participate in every single thread and attempt to turn them
into a discussion about himself instead of staying on topic.
He's been at it for years and the pattern is still the same.

Why he does this?
I don't know.

[Steve Carroll]

On Sunday, December 15, 2019 at 7:58:05 AM UTC-7, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 20:56:19 -0500, Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Steve Carroll <fretw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>On Saturday, December 14, 2019 at 5:32:06 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> >>> On 12/14/19 5:25 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >> If he talks tech or whatever that is fine. I am open to responding to that.
> >>>
> >>> > I tried talking to you about tech
> >>>
> >>> Cool. Right now I am
> >>
> >>... *way* overmedicated and still making sh*t up? Yeah, I know ;)
> >>
> >>I just got a call from a guy named Bruce Waldo of the Aurora Behavioral
> >>Health System in AZ, he asked if I saw someone fitting your description
> >>in my area. Apparently you've escaped.
> >>
> >>So... I guess this is "proof" you really are nutz.
> >
> >
> >Your obsession with Snit is really pathetic. You're writing bullshit
> >like the above as if that doesn't hint at you being behind the anti-
> >Snit socks. Well, it does hint at that, Steve - in fact, it gives the
> >notion significant credibility.
> >
> >I am skeptical that you will ever act in good faith toward Snit. It
> >seems that your preoccupation is pathological.
>
> Do your research Joel.

"Joel" is a long time Snit shill from back in CSMA's heyday.

> Snit is the one who brought up the police incident and he's offering
> no proof it ever occurred.
>
> Steve is just being sarcastic.

Of course.

> Snit is forever making these wild claims and basically tossing them at
> the wall to see what sticks. I don't know what his motive is other
> than what I see from his posting and that clearly demonstrates that he
> needs to participate in every single thread and attempt to turn them
> into a discussion about himself instead of staying on topic.
> He's been at it for years and the pattern is still the same.
>
> Why he does this?
> I don't know.

I could be wrong but I seem to recall Snit claiming he didn't talk to the
cops at one point (where is DFS when you need him?).

[Steve Carroll]

On Sunday, December 15, 2019 at 7:58:05 AM UTC-7, flatfish+++ wrote:

I do not tolerate that. Crudeness is crudeness and there are tons who are fine with it. Several are even lawyers. Absolute malarkey by an uninformed, fabricating, manipulative, conspiring laughingstock who would not tell the truth no matter what his socks/shills say.

Advertising is a wonderful thing and consumer herd mentality is even better.

My earliest statement stands literal and correct. How is Chrome on Linux doing anything above the lowest common denominator? The one talent Gregory Hall learned well is to attempt to humiliate mGhost into false confession and if that fails to work, troll-splain or subtly change the target.



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[Steve Carroll]

On Sunday, December 15, 2019 at 7:58:05 AM UTC-7, flatfish+++ wrote:

Your system will crawl while finding a way to stop Gregory Hall. And it takes a long time. Oh goodness, that is just tons of nonsense. Anyway, it should not matter because the name on a post is irrelevant, it's the content that counts.

I've worked in or with the computer field for 45 years. I've had a contract with top OEMs selling to governments and the communications industry. Never, not at any time, was I directed not to pre-install any OS the customer wanted. We sold OS/2, Sun, Red Hat, and so forth in addition to MS OSs.

For most I'd just think it is dubious. However, given that it's Gregory Hall I would drop that doubt and go straight to 'ego-trip' because that's most of what Gregory Hall does. Innocent until proven guilty does not apply to Gregory Hall. You wanting something false to be true does not make it true. Idiot.

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[mGhost]

On 2019-12-15, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> mGhost <mGh...@mouse-potatoe.com> wrote:
>> On 2019-12-15, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 12/14/19 5:25 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>> If he talks tech or whatever that is fine. I am open to responding to that.
>>>
>>>> I tried talking to you about tech
>>>
>>> Cool. Right now I am running Mint with Xfce on it as a media machine.
>>> What distros are you uses? What type tasks are you doing with Linux?
>>>
>>> We have also added ChromeBooks to our home computing -- which are Linux,
>>> though not what is generally seen as "desktop Linux". Actually been
>>> quite happy with them, and while they are limited, they are also far
>>> cheaper than Mac notebooks. They are excellent for the kids' school work.
>>>
>> How much did you pay for the chromebook?
>>
>
> Two different models for somewhat different needs — but together under $500
> (though warrantees push it over that). Really a pretty good deal for
> machines the kids can use wherever.
>

Are these models the ones that can also run Android apps?

[mGhost]

It's ChromeOS and maybe Android. It's Google's Chrome browser and the
apps are all web apps that require Chrome. I thought I also read that
Chrome books were going to be able to run Android apps from the Android
AppStore. Is that a thing? If yes, it sounds like could be similar to
iPadOS.

The iPad's Files app is like a Finder Lite app. The iPad Pro I have has
256 GB SSD and I attached a 1 TB SSD via USB-c. The drive shows up in
the Files app and I can copy files, directories, and even save files
into the external SSD.

When I download from the browser, it stores the download in the iCloud
Downloads directory, and I can easily copy the downloaded file into the
external SSD via the Files app.

Does ChromeOS have a similar feature set?

[mGhost]

On 2019-12-15, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> mGhost <mGh...@mouse-potatoe.com> wrote:
>> On 2019-12-15, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 12/14/19 5:25 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>> If he talks tech or whatever that is fine. I am open to responding to that.
>>>
>>>> I tried talking to you about tech
>>>
>>> Cool. Right now I am running Mint with Xfce on it as a media machine.
>>> What distros are you uses? What type tasks are you doing with Linux?
>>>
>>> We have also added ChromeBooks to our home computing -- which are Linux,
>>> though not what is generally seen as "desktop Linux". Actually been
>>> quite happy with them, and while they are limited, they are also far
>>> cheaper than Mac notebooks. They are excellent for the kids' school work.
>>>
>> How much did you pay for the chromebook?
>>
>
> Two different models for somewhat different needs — but together under $500
> (though warrantees push it over that). Really a pretty good deal for
> machines the kids can use wherever.
>

I think Apple has a $299 iPad which can use the first version of the
pencil. The Chromebooks are better for the needs of family?

[mGhost]

I thought he said Steve brought it up and that's how he knew. Aren't all
messages in usenet stored forever? You could just locate the message
where Steve brought it up to lend credence to Snit's claim. If such a
message does not exist, well then there is no evidence to back up the
claim. This seems simple enough to determine one way or another.

Unless I misunderstood something, Snit said he didn't know until Steve
brought it up. So then Snit should produce that message in which Steve
brought it up. If that can't be done then the matter should be
dismissed. By order of the usenet court. :)

[Snit]

mGhost <mGh...@mouse-potatoe.com> wrote:
> On 2019-12-15, Steve Carroll <fretw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Saturday, December 14, 2019 at 5:32:06 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
>>> On 12/14/19 5:25 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>> If he talks tech or whatever that is fine. I am open to responding to that.
>>>
>>>> I tried talking to you about tech
>>>
>>> Cool. Right now I am running Mint with Xfce on it as a media machine.
>>> What distros are you uses? What type tasks are you doing with Linux?
>>>
>>> We have also added ChromeBooks to our home computing -- which are Linux,
>>> though not what is generally seen as "desktop Linux".
>>
>> It's Linux... it's on a laptop, which is, for all intents and purposes (from
>> the OS standpoint), a desktop class computer... so it's as "desktop Linux"
>> as it needs to be. Desktops are "generally seen" to be losing marketshare
>> to mobile devices now <shrug>.
>
> It's ChromeOS and maybe Android. It's Google's Chrome browser and the
> apps are all web apps that require Chrome. I thought I also read that
> Chrome books were going to be able to run Android apps from the Android
> AppStore. Is that a thing? If yes, it sounds like could be similar to
> iPadOS.

I am pretty sure they can.

> The iPad's Files app is like a Finder Lite app. The iPad Pro I have has
> 256 GB SSD and I attached a 1 TB SSD via USB-c. The drive shows up in
> the Files app and I can copy files, directories, and even save files
> into the external SSD.
>
> When I download from the browser, it stores the download in the iCloud
> Downloads directory, and I can easily copy the downloaded file into the
> external SSD via the Files app.
>
> Does ChromeOS have a similar feature set?

Yes. You can save to Google Drive or local, and I am pretty sure USB
drives.

[Snit]

Yup. Have not played with they though. If the kids needs lead to that I
will.

Also desktop Linux apps, I think.

[Snit]

Yes. The local schools use them. Also the screen size matters for them. The
ChromeBooks have lower end screens but they are 14 inch. The low end iPad
is only 10.2 (though higher quality).

Did consider them though.

[Snit]

Yes. The local schools use them. Also the screen size matters for them. The
ChromeBooks have lower end screens but they are 14 inch. The low end iPad
is only 10.2 (though higher quality).

Did consider them though.

[Snit]

Have looked in Google Groups for Carroll saying “front door”. Pretty sure
that is the phrase he used. Can’t find it. Don’t care.

I had no clue they went to his house until he brought it up. Then he denied
it. But whatever.

His harassment of me and others is a MUCH bigger concern then how ANYONE
responds to it.

[Steve Carroll]

It's a spam message. mGhost has already decided what he is going to say before he calls. What you say is ignored. What owl says is ignored.

His desire is to see owl annoyed by idiotic lying. And hey, that could or could not... you know what I mean. Of course I noted examples of mGhost twisting owl's words, falsely attributing someone else's words to me, etc. His response: to beg your herd to come rescue you. Right now there are too many "works for me" false "advocates" and not enough power users with enough understanding to help the people with old computers. Not only did owl's request not allude to the "distro", it has *nothing* to do with Linux. mGhost should go lock the medicine chest.

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[Steve Carroll]

Just Wondering proved himself to be a backslider by having the pretense to not speak to owl by means of announcing 'score: -999' and then abusing him again using piggybacking.

A constant, relentless, posting itch, while suffering from an empty mind - essentially gunky rodent camp followers, and vigorously-greased ram, scared stiff by loud music for his own secret needs.

Idiot. When I first posted, I wanted to be unprejudiced and open minded. I gave Just Wondering more than a reasonable person generally would.

Despite all the big talk Just Wondering's done on this topic, the 'Social Media Manager' does not know how to do this. It only takes a couple seconds to click and drag across a sentence and 'reverse' it.

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[mGhost]

On 2019-12-15, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> mGhost <mGh...@mouse-potatoe.com> wrote:
>> On 2019-12-15, Steve Carroll <fretw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, December 14, 2019 at 5:32:06 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 12/14/19 5:25 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>> If he talks tech or whatever that is fine. I am open to responding to that.
>>>>
>>>>> I tried talking to you about tech
>>>>
>>>> Cool. Right now I am running Mint with Xfce on it as a media machine.
>>>> What distros are you uses? What type tasks are you doing with Linux?
>>>>
>>>> We have also added ChromeBooks to our home computing -- which are Linux,
>>>> though not what is generally seen as "desktop Linux".
>>>
>>> It's Linux... it's on a laptop, which is, for all intents and purposes (from
>>> the OS standpoint), a desktop class computer... so it's as "desktop Linux"
>>> as it needs to be. Desktops are "generally seen" to be losing marketshare
>>> to mobile devices now <shrug>.
>>
>> It's ChromeOS and maybe Android. It's Google's Chrome browser and the
>> apps are all web apps that require Chrome. I thought I also read that
>> Chrome books were going to be able to run Android apps from the Android
>> AppStore. Is that a thing? If yes, it sounds like could be similar to
>> iPadOS.
>
> I am pretty sure they can.
>

I thought you already bought these chrome books. No?

>> The iPad's Files app is like a Finder Lite app. The iPad Pro I have has
>> 256 GB SSD and I attached a 1 TB SSD via USB-c. The drive shows up in
>> the Files app and I can copy files, directories, and even save files
>> into the external SSD.
>>
>> When I download from the browser, it stores the download in the iCloud
>> Downloads directory, and I can easily copy the downloaded file into the
>> external SSD via the Files app.
>>
>> Does ChromeOS have a similar feature set?
>
> Yes. You can save to Google Drive or local, and I am pretty sure USB
> drives.
>

Similar to the iPad Pro then. But you're not sure if it has an Android
AppStore?

[mGhost]

On 2019-12-15, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> mGhost <mGh...@mouse-potatoe.com> wrote:
>> On 2019-12-15, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> mGhost <mGh...@mouse-potatoe.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2019-12-15, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 12/14/19 5:25 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>> If he talks tech or whatever that is fine. I am open to responding to that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried talking to you about tech
>>>>>
>>>>> Cool. Right now I am running Mint with Xfce on it as a media machine.
>>>>> What distros are you uses? What type tasks are you doing with Linux?
>>>>>
>>>>> We have also added ChromeBooks to our home computing -- which are Linux,
>>>>> though not what is generally seen as "desktop Linux". Actually been
>>>>> quite happy with them, and while they are limited, they are also far
>>>>> cheaper than Mac notebooks. They are excellent for the kids' school work.
>>>>>
>>>> How much did you pay for the chromebook?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Two different models for somewhat different needs — but together under $500
>>> (though warrantees push it over that). Really a pretty good deal for
>>> machines the kids can use wherever.
>>>
>> Are these models the ones that can also run Android apps?
>>
>
> Yup. Have not played with they though. If the kids needs lead to that I
> will.
>
> Also desktop Linux apps, I think.
>

I see what you mean. You're saying that you have children and the chrome
books are theirs and that they use them and that you do not use them.
You are not sure of the Android AppStore answer. Yes?

[mGhost]

On 2019-12-15, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> mGhost <mGh...@mouse-potatoe.com> wrote:
>> On 2019-12-15, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> mGhost <mGh...@mouse-potatoe.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2019-12-15, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 12/14/19 5:25 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>> If he talks tech or whatever that is fine. I am open to responding to that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried talking to you about tech
>>>>>
>>>>> Cool. Right now I am running Mint with Xfce on it as a media machine.
>>>>> What distros are you uses? What type tasks are you doing with Linux?
>>>>>
>>>>> We have also added ChromeBooks to our home computing -- which are Linux,
>>>>> though not what is generally seen as "desktop Linux". Actually been
>>>>> quite happy with them, and while they are limited, they are also far
>>>>> cheaper than Mac notebooks. They are excellent for the kids' school work.
>>>>>
>>>> How much did you pay for the chromebook?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Two different models for somewhat different needs — but together under $500
>>> (though warrantees push it over that). Really a pretty good deal for
>>> machines the kids can use wherever.
>>>
>> I think Apple has a $299 iPad which can use the first version of the
>> pencil. The Chromebooks are better for the needs of family?
>>
>
> Yes. The local schools use them. Also the screen size matters for them. The
> ChromeBooks have lower end screens but they are 14 inch. The low end iPad
> is only 10.2 (though higher quality).
>
> Did consider them though.
>

So the students use GoogleDocs to write and submit their home tasks?

[Snit]

On 12/15/19 2:26 PM, mGhost wrote:
> On 2019-12-15, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> mGhost <mGh...@mouse-potatoe.com> wrote:
>>> On 2019-12-15, Steve Carroll <fretw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, December 14, 2019 at 5:32:06 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On 12/14/19 5:25 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>> If he talks tech or whatever that is fine. I am open to responding to that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried talking to you about tech
>>>>>
>>>>> Cool. Right now I am running Mint with Xfce on it as a media machine.
>>>>> What distros are you uses? What type tasks are you doing with Linux?
>>>>>
>>>>> We have also added ChromeBooks to our home computing -- which are Linux,
>>>>> though not what is generally seen as "desktop Linux".
>>>>
>>>> It's Linux... it's on a laptop, which is, for all intents and purposes (from
>>>> the OS standpoint), a desktop class computer... so it's as "desktop Linux"
>>>> as it needs to be. Desktops are "generally seen" to be losing marketshare
>>>> to mobile devices now <shrug>.
>>>
>>> It's ChromeOS and maybe Android. It's Google's Chrome browser and the
>>> apps are all web apps that require Chrome. I thought I also read that
>>> Chrome books were going to be able to run Android apps from the Android
>>> AppStore. Is that a thing? If yes, it sounds like could be similar to
>>> iPadOS.
>>
>> I am pretty sure they can.
>>
> I thought you already bought these chrome books. No?

Have one. The other is on the way. Have barely used it -- set it up and
my kid is using it for school work.

>>> The iPad's Files app is like a Finder Lite app. The iPad Pro I have has
>>> 256 GB SSD and I attached a 1 TB SSD via USB-c. The drive shows up in
>>> the Files app and I can copy files, directories, and even save files
>>> into the external SSD.
>>>
>>> When I download from the browser, it stores the download in the iCloud
>>> Downloads directory, and I can easily copy the downloaded file into the
>>> external SSD via the Files app.
>>>
>>> Does ChromeOS have a similar feature set?
>>
>> Yes. You can save to Google Drive or local, and I am pretty sure USB
>> drives.
>>
> Similar to the iPad Pro then. But you're not sure if it has an Android
> AppStore?

I am pretty sure it does... but have not set it up or tested it.

[Steve Carroll]

On Sunday, December 15, 2019 at 1:16:38 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> mGhost <mGh...@mouse-potatoe.com> wrote:
> > On 2019-12-15, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> >> mGhost <mGh...@mouse-potatoe.com> wrote:
> >>> On 2019-12-15, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 12/14/19 5:25 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >>>>>> If he talks tech or whatever that is fine. I am open to responding to that.
> >>>>
> >>>>> I tried talking to you about tech
> >>>>
> >>>> Cool. Right now I am running Mint with Xfce on it as a media machine.
> >>>> What distros are you uses? What type tasks are you doing with Linux?
> >>>>
> >>>> We have also added ChromeBooks to our home computing -- which are Linux,
> >>>> though not what is generally seen as "desktop Linux". Actually been
> >>>> quite happy with them, and while they are limited, they are also far
> >>>> cheaper than Mac notebooks. They are excellent for the kids' school work.
> >>>>
> >>> How much did you pay for the chromebook?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Two different models for somewhat different needs — but together under $500
> >> (though warrantees push it over that). Really a pretty good deal for
> >> machines the kids can use wherever.
> >>
> > Are these models the ones that can also run Android apps?
> >
>
> Yup. Have not played with they though. If the kids needs lead to that I
> will.
>
> Also desktop Linux apps, I think.

If true... then they really are 'desktop Linux' from the viewpoint of
that magical "average user". You've not tried to run one? That would've
been one of the first things I'd have tried.

[mGhost]

On 2019-12-15, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

Okay sorry but you mentioned it. That is why I asked.

> I had no clue they went to his house until he brought it up. Then he denied
> it. But whatever.
>

And you can substantiate this with a reference to this posted message
where he brings it up?

> His harassment of me and others is a MUCH bigger concern then how ANYONE
> responds to it.
>

But if it can't be substantiated, then how does anyone know if you're
telling the truth. He says the opposite is true.

[Snit]

Yes. That and other tools. But mostly GoogleDocks and web stuff. The main
use case for ChromeBooks. :)

[Snit]

Only have one in the house — other has shipped but not arrived. And it is
my daughters machine. As time goes by I might experiment with it but for
now she is using it for school, Netflix, etc. Let her put the first scratch
on it. :)

[Snit]

Correct — though really just have one. Other has shipped but not arrived.

I will likely play later, but they are their toys.

> You are not sure of the Android AppStore answer. Yes?

Correct, though I am pretty sure it is supported I am not positive.

[Snit]

Fair enough.

>> I had no clue they went to his house until he brought it up. Then he denied
>> it. But whatever.
>>
> And you can substantiate this with a reference to this posted message
> where he brings it up?

As I said: looked briefly. Did not see it. Just noting where I first heard
it.

Google Groups search sucks. DFS and some others have much better search
engines. If it matters to you they might find it.

>> His harassment of me and others is a MUCH bigger concern then how ANYONE
>> responds to it.
>>
> But if it can't be substantiated, then how does anyone know if you're
> telling the truth. He says the opposite is true.

You can see the trolling here. I am not asking you to comment on things
outside of here. Remember: the only reason the police stuff was brought up
(recently) was in RESPONSE to Carroll’s trolling and to remind HIM where it
has lead him before. I did not and am not asking you or Flatfish to have
any knowledge of that. I am not asking either of you to believe anything
you do not see from him directly. Carroll has been twisting to pretend I
somehow want you to side with me or whatever on his crap outside of Usenet.


If you think you need it I might have links to posts where he threatened to
contact my employer and neighbors and clients. It is not like he used to
deny the stuff he is now — they were very public threats. But I cannot
prove to you he carried them out.

But really I prefer to just talk tech here.

[Steve Carroll]

It is fair given you mentioned it. So how about an answer that isn't, you know,
just another BS story?

> >> I had no clue they went to his house until he brought it up. Then he denied
> >> it. But whatever.
> >>
> > And you can substantiate this with a reference to this posted message
> > where he brings it up?
>
> As I said: looked briefly. Did not see it. Just noting where I first heard
> it.
>
> Google Groups search sucks. DFS and some others have much better search
> engines. If it matters to you they might find it.

Here's how reality works: *You* said it... it should 'matter' to *you* if
your credibility matters to you... but we all know it doesn't.

> >> His harassment of me and others is a MUCH bigger concern then how ANYONE
> >> responds to it.
> >>
> > But if it can't be substantiated, then how does anyone know if you're
> > telling the truth. He says the opposite is true.
>
> You can see the trolling here.

Another reality check: Shining the light (and doing so dishonestly) doesn't
back your play. He's saying 'put up or shut up'.

> I am not asking you to comment on things
> outside of here. Remember: the only reason the police stuff was brought up
> (recently) was in RESPONSE to Carroll’s trolling and to remind HIM where it
> has lead him before.

LOL! Snit thinks he has 'power' over me. How do you get so high, Snit? ;)

> I did not and am not asking you or Flatfish to have
> any knowledge of that. I am not asking either of you to believe anything
> you do not see from him directly. Carroll has been twisting to pretend I
> somehow want you to side with me or whatever on his crap outside of Usenet.

Telling "others" what people are doing again, Snit?

All I'm doing is pointing out your obvious game.

> If you think you need it I might have links to posts where he threatened to
> contact my employer and neighbors and clients. It is not like he used to
> deny the stuff he is now

That doesn't even make any sense. And for the record, I didn't threaten
anything, I promised I would unless someone gave me a reason not to.
Who *shouldn't* contact a school you were linking back to when you do
things like sexual harassment, forgery, libel, etc? EVERYONE should have
contacted your employer and perhaps some did... but I didn't.

> — they were very public threats. But I cannot
> prove to you he carried them out.
>
> But really I prefer to just talk tech here.

Right... anyone can see that <eyeroll>.

[Snit]

Example of Carroll’s trolling / harassment. Will note but not play his
game.

Notice he is back to admitting his contacting of my employer and others in
my life. Well, saying he promised to but then saying he did not.

Wherever. His game grows.

[Steve Carroll]

Just piling the lies as high as you can, eh, Snit? You realize anyone can
read what I wrote up there, right? Just checking, you seem pretty medded
up right now ;)

[Snit]

What Carroll snipped:
——

Example of Carroll’s trolling / harassment. Will note but not play his
game.

Notice he is back to admitting his contacting of my employer and others in
my life. Well, saying he promised to but then saying he did not.

Wherever. His game grows.

——

Notice his game: take half the context and twist it.

[Steve Carroll]

Back to? I never admitted to doing something I haven't done, including
this.

> Well, saying he promised to but then saying he did not.

I did promise to, with the caveat that I wouldn't if someone were to
supply a good reason not to. You really want to go into that again,
Snit? It was only due to that email that I did not follow through.
You're acting like I should be ashamed for contacting a school over
someone claiming to teach there who was doing bizarre things on usenet.

[Snit]

So you promised to but never did?

>> Well, saying he promised to but then saying he did not.
>
> I did promise to, with the caveat that I wouldn't if someone were to
> supply a good reason not to.

Do you promised / threatened to contact my employer but then did not
because ... why?

> You really want to go into that again,
> Snit? It was only due to that email that I did not follow through.

An email from? Come on ... let’s hear you insane claims. Sure. State who
you claimed to get an email from that got you to drop your promise / threat
to contact my employer.

And what were you going to tell my employer? Be specific!

> You're acting like I should be ashamed for contacting a school over
> someone claiming to teach there who was doing bizarre things on usenet.

Not considering contacting but just flat out contacting. So you admit you
contacted my employer.

MGhost: this is the type crap he has been doing for over a decade. Denying
the contact he threatened but then noting he did contact them.

Direct admission from Carroll.

Remember: no need to prove to you what you have done, but others were
asking. Now they have it directly from you — no need for me to even find
those message IDs.

[Steve Carroll]

On 2019-12-15, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:

(snip)

> So you promised to but never did?

What gave it away? Sober up, Snit ;)

>>> Well, saying he promised to but then saying he did not.
>>
>> I did promise to, with the caveat that I wouldn't if someone were to
>> supply a good reason not to.
>
> Do you promised / threatened to contact my employer but then did not
> because ... why?

Because someone pointed out how they really needed you to keep that job.

>> You really want to go into that again,
>> Snit? It was only due to that email that I did not follow through.
>
> An email from? Come on ... let’s hear you insane claims. Sure. State who
> you claimed to get an email from that got you to drop your promise / threat
> to contact my employer.

As I said, I believe it was you, impersonating your wife. Were I sure of
that I would've contacted them but it sounded like a woman wrote and it
was pretty convincing.

> And what were you going to tell my employer? Be specific!

The things you were doing online, you know what they are and we've all
seen them over and over.

>> You're acting like I should be ashamed for contacting a school over
>> someone claiming to teach there who was doing bizarre things on usenet.
>
> Not considering contacting but just flat out contacting. So you admit you
> contacted my employer.

LOL! You're high, aren't you?

> MGhost: this is the type crap he has been doing for over a decade. Denying
> the contact he threatened but then noting he did contact them.
>
> Direct admission from Carroll.

Sigh... you're boring, Snit. Even if I *had* contacted them (and,
realistically, I should've, we all should've) it *would* have been
the right thing to do given your extremely bizarre behavior.

> Remember: no need to prove to you what you have done, but others were
> asking. Now they have it directly from you — no need for me to even find
> those message IDs.

LOL! You're missing it... I'm more ashamed that I *didn't* contact them,
I really should've done it. How many of their teachers were forging IDs,
using sock puppets, generating false "evidence", creating disparaging
websites about posters, sexually harassing women, flooding people's
websites, spamming the newsgroup with lies and crap... and all the rest
of the BS you pulled? Here you are trying to sell the idea that, had I
done it, I should be ashamed. You've lost your mind, 'Mr. Victim'.

[Snit]

On and on you go. You promised to contact my employer -- a thread you
admit to -- but then said you did not based on an email from someone you
thought was my WIFE.

But then you said you thought I was impersonating HER, a claim you said
you were already going to make to my employer, but because you thought
that you opted to not contact my employer because I (acting as my wife)
said I needed the job?

And this is supposed to be your defense?

Meanwhile you will not even say what you were accusing me of.

Oh, and you also said, today:
——

You're acting like I should be ashamed for contacting
a school over someone claiming to teach there who was
doing bizarre things on usenet.
——

Not ashamed IF YOU HAD, but ashamed FOR DOING SO.

I think we can safely say you have finished digging your own grave. Time
for your socks to come to the rescue. LOL!

[Steve Carroll]

Yes, Snit... how many times are you going to acknowledge it?

> -- but then said you did not based on an email from someone you
> thought was my WIFE.

No, I thought it was probably you (being I knew you monitored her email)
but I didn't want to take the chance I was wrong.

> But then you said you thought I was impersonating HER, a claim you said
> you were already going to make to my employer,

You have the order wrong.

> but because you thought
> that you opted to not contact my employer because I (acting as my wife)
> said I needed the job?
>
> And this is supposed to be your defense?

Why would I need a "defense" to inform a school that there was a potential
imposter working for them? That actually makes sense to you?!

> Meanwhile you will not even say what you were accusing me of.

Uh... I just wrote it *again* up above in this post... that you glossed
right over.

[RonB]

On 2019-12-15, mGhost <mGh...@mouse-potatoe.com> wrote:

> On 2019-12-15, Steve Carroll <fretw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Saturday, December 14, 2019 at 5:32:06 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
>>> On 12/14/19 5:25 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> >> If he talks tech or whatever that is fine. I am open to responding to that.
>>>
>>> > I tried talking to you about tech
>>>

>>> Cool. Right now I am running Mint with Xfce on it as a media machine.
>>> What distros are you uses? What type tasks are you doing with Linux?
>>>
>>> We have also added ChromeBooks to our home computing -- which are Linux,
>>> though not what is generally seen as "desktop Linux".
>>

>> It's Linux... it's on a laptop, which is, for all intents and purposes (from
>> the OS standpoint), a desktop class computer... so it's as "desktop Linux"
>> as it needs to be. Desktops are "generally seen" to be losing marketshare
>> to mobile devices now <shrug>.
>
> It's ChromeOS and maybe Android. It's Google's Chrome browser and the
> apps are all web apps that require Chrome. I thought I also read that
> Chrome books were going to be able to run Android apps from the Android
> AppStore. Is that a thing? If yes, it sounds like could be similar to
> iPadOS.
>

> The iPad's Files app is like a Finder Lite app. The iPad Pro I have has
> 256 GB SSD and I attached a 1 TB SSD via USB-c. The drive shows up in
> the Files app and I can copy files, directories, and even save files
> into the external SSD.
>
> When I download from the browser, it stores the download in the iCloud
> Downloads directory, and I can easily copy the downloaded file into the
> external SSD via the Files app.
>
> Does ChromeOS have a similar feature set?

I think the new Chromebooks also run Linux now. Seemed like I remember
reading that anyhow.

But why? (Rhetorical question.) I can buy a cheap laptop from a few years
back and do a clean Linux install and not have to bother with Google's crap.

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[mGhost]

He says it is what the school uses. Makes sense.

[Snit]

I know you said rhetorical, but in case you really want to know --
because the focus is on the ease of use of ChromeOS. You can *also* add
other things (Android and Linux apps) but most people will not. Not sure
I will... depends on my kid's needs. Will likely let them use them "as
is" for a while. If they have a need the device does not meet I will
suggest moving to something else... and see what they think.

For now, though, they are used to "plain" ChromeOS from their schools.

[RonB]

But you can use Google Office with a standard laptop. At any rate, if that
works for him, it works. At one time I interested in chomebooks, but that's
been out of my system for years.

[Snit]

I am finding there are things about them I might not have considered
which are a benefit... how they get to contextual menus, for example. A
bit different than in Windows or macOS, but they are used to it. This is
important in schools because the device is not set to be left or right
handed. I have a lefty and she HATES using right handed mice. And, sigh,
had a computer teacher who, when they were in a Windows lab, had no clue
you could swap the buttons. I showed my daughter and she was able to...
but not as quickly as I should have. She just did not know to ask if
there was a way on Windows, even though she knew on Macs. And I did not
think to ask her.

They also like the full screen nature of most programs... fits the way
they work when focusing on school work. Mostly. There have been a couple
cases where they needed split windows and I helped with that (one had a
ChromeBook from the school on load... actually still has it until hers
comes in!) On Macs, though, they use multiple windows.

[Snit]

My kids are not as "into" computers as I am. They want ease of use.
ChromeOS is cheap and offers that. It is not perfect but seems pretty
darn good for their needs.

[mGhost]

I would go with an iPad myself. Tons of good apps. You can write, print,
save, and so on. And the quantity and quality of education apps are
huge. I would think schools would love this. And the prices keep getting
lower and lower for a really nice tablet.

[George T McNasty]

Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in
news:h5oacv...@mid.individual.net:

Caught in another lie snit?
Previously you claimed that you bought the Chromebooks for your kids and
even pointed out the price. Then you were confronted with the fact that
the Prescott school system provides the Chromebooks for free so now you
are changing your story to cover for your previous lies.

Sober up gluey and stop mixing the red and blue pills.

[Snit]

I was torn between the two... and my wife and I are talking about
possibly getting one.

[mGhost]

On 2019-12-16, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

Kids like it, great.
Low cost, great.
School recommends it, great.

All sounds great.

[Snit]

Yup... and in the case of one of the kids they have a loaner. Once we
get hers we will return it. The new one should work almost exactly like
the old and all passwords and bookmarks and the like will copy over.

Then again, my other daughter was using Chrome on an older Mac and
*most* things transferred over just fine... so would likely work on
Linux or Window, too.

[mGhost]

On 2019-12-16, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 12/15/19 8:12 PM, mGhost wrote:

[characters asked to leave for exceeding fire safety code]

>> Kids like it, great.
>> Low cost, great.
>> School recommends it, great.
>>
>> All sounds great.
>>
>
> Yup... and in the case of one of the kids they have a loaner. Once we
> get hers we will return it. The new one should work almost exactly like
> the old and all passwords and bookmarks and the like will copy over.
>
> Then again, my other daughter was using Chrome on an older Mac and
> *most* things transferred over just fine... so would likely work on
> Linux or Window, too.
>

If it can run Android apps I'd say that's pretty good right there.
Android has a ton of good apps. Can you use a pencil on the screen to
write with your hand?

[Steve Carroll]

He's also said he home schools them so who knows what to believe
(if they were able to get out from under his control freak nature and
enter the schoolhouse that's a good thing IMO) <shrug>. In any event,
Google has issues but there stuff is OK... on the dev side, especially.

[Steve Carroll]

Jeff Relf will be destroyed once the waters are overfished. That, and there will repeatedly be a butthurt insomniac or more in an open usenet group. The impossibility of taming a shrew aside, we've all seen who uncontrollably blames others when he doesn't get anyone on his side. How is bash on Linux doing anything above the lowest common denominator?

Ending support for Tar is obvious.

For others I would just say the comment is suspicious. Given that it's Just 'The Fool' Wondering I would dump that step and go straight to 'bullshit' because that's most of what he does. Meaning no evidence is required to deem it dishonest.

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[Snit]

I have not kept you up to date on every change in my life and my kids'
lives. Damn... that must mean, to your demented brain, that my kids
being associated with school systems is somehow hard to believe. Hey,
guess what Carroll, I am not gonna even tell you what school system(s)
they are associated with and how. Poor you.

Seriously, get a life.

[Steve Carroll]

Who knows C, is an IT "master", has hacked mGhost's ID, has an obsession and is a gigantic immature toddler who, when he is quoted lying, posts all kinds of ridiculous crap even when he's not flooding... AND... who struggles to pin everything he is doing on "others" and has for years? How Jeff-Relf.Me determines when to use the flood script to best emulate the style of mGhost's posts http://usenet.sandman.net/misc/snit_flood.

Socks that Jeff-Relf.Me can not prove are mine. Why would I, or anyone, want socks to reveal what we all often say about Jeff-Relf.Me?

mGhost has been here to deeply figure out the depths of Jeff-Relf.Me's trolling. Proof Jeff-Relf.Me accuses everyone of being Snit http://sandman.net/files/snit_circus.png.

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[Steve Carroll]

Not at all... I think it's great that mom finally stepped in and over-rode
your anti-school stance. I realize you probably viewed yourself as the
best "teacher" for them but that doesn't make for a well rounded kid.

[Snit]

Gee, yet more insane insults and lies from Carroll... it is non-stop.

OK, mGhost, I think this post where he directly lies about my family
should be an eye-opener if nothing else has been. Well, other stuff
should have been, too. :)

[Steve Carroll]

Sandman lies. Here is a list of names Jonas Eklundh has admitted he attributes to mGhost "Cactus Pete", "Donald", "Donald Miller", "Horace McSwain", "Hymen", "meat", "Mike Weaver", "Modena IV Drid", "Omar Murad Asfour", "Rhino Plastee", "Soapy", "SopwithCamel", "Sunny Day", "Takuya Saitoh", "The Letter Q", "tmelmosfire", "zevon".

And in reply you have nothing but an attempt to start a war. With no support at all, as is expected for mGhost.

Anyway, it won't matter because the apparent origin on a post is irrelevant, we know it is from the script-troller anyway.

mGhost's done a pretty good job with (I'd guess) a neural network to regurgitate texts which are made to sound like a response from a previous post in the group. That is the problem with millennials and American instructors don't have a clue; people from older generations SHOULD know better than to fall for the indoctrination BS.



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[Steve Carroll]

Said the liar who posted tons of delusional BS about me all day.

> OK, mGhost, I think

Why do you think he, or anyone, cares?

> this post where he directly lies about my family

Are you actually going to deny the reason you stated for home schooling?!

Of course you are... you're the guy who out of one side of his mouth would
be pushing the idea that what goes on in the internet stays in the internet,
at least, when it's *your* trolling... but out of the other side of your mouth
we get this blatant hypocrisy:

<C4335062.B5055%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>

<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/qEdN3R3z1kA/qjwyB7oNowQJ>

It's notable that hh was arguing what he did there, too, hypocrite. Why
do *so* many people have you all "wrong", Snit?

[Snit]

You do not even try to deny you are lying about my family, you just say
that since you ACCUSED me of lying about you it makes it somehow OK.

Seriously, non-stop since 2004. You cannot help but prove my points for me.

Oh, and no, Carroll, I am not gonna discuss why I chose to have kids
(something you and your ex- used to cry about) nor why we opted for any
given educational system. Helping you dox me is not really wise.

[Steve Carroll]

This is undoubtedly an interest of mine. A shadow of reason, projected perfectly, at the wrong time. macOS is only free if your time has no value.

I'm getting false positives in my kill filter. I'm guessing the pea-brained circus is proving the advocates right again. Drives the trolls crazy when they do not get attention. When I first posted, I wanted to be reasonable and nonjudgemental. I gave F. Russell more than a wise person generally would.

Gee, imagine F. Russell trying to pin his rubbish on me, no one has ever seen that before ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. The person you are referencing is in my KF.

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[Steve Carroll]

Marek admitted Carroll repeatedly asked him to lie:

Marek <NPWdnVgF_NwsozXE...@giganews.com>:
-----
When I first tried to broker peace between you [Steve Carroll] and
Snit, you emailed me over and over again asking be to lie about
Glasser.
-----

And then Marek later admitted he DOES lie, but claimed he does it simply because it pleases him to do so:

Marek <keCdnc7hoMqpfy3E...@giganews.com>:
-----
| Why do you post your attacks and insults and lies if not to please
| the herd?

I do it to please me, Snit.
-----

Whatever his reason for lying, even Marek admits he lies and attacks and insults.

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[Snit]

On 12/15/19 9:36 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> Marek admitted Carroll repeatedly asked him to lie:
>
> Marek<NPWdnVgF_NwsozXE...@giganews.com>:
> -----
> When I first tried to broker peace between you [Steve Carroll] and
> Snit, you emailed me over and over again asking be to lie about
> Glasser.
> -----

Curious, Carroll, are you emailing mGhost these days?

[Will Robinson]

Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in news:h5og20F2uq8U1
@mid.individual.net:

> On 12/15/19 9:36 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> Marek admitted Carroll repeatedly asked him to lie:
>>
>> Marek<NPWdnVgF_NwsozXE...@giganews.com>:
>> -----
>> When I first tried to broker peace between you [Steve Carroll]
and
>> Snit, you emailed me over and over again asking be to lie about
>> Glasser.
>> -----
>
> Curious, Carroll, are you emailing mGhost these days?

Why would Steve Carroll want to email you snit?
Deny it all you want but you screwed the pooch much like you did with
your meat sock and your Brock McNuggets sock.
You just aren't very good at sock puppetry because you out yourself every
time.

[mGhost]

On 2019-12-16, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> On 12/15/19 9:36 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> Marek admitted Carroll repeatedly asked him to lie:
>>
>> Marek<NPWdnVgF_NwsozXE...@giganews.com>:
>> -----
>> When I first tried to broker peace between you [Steve Carroll] and
>> Snit, you emailed me over and over again asking be to lie about
>> Glasser.
>> -----
>
> Curious, Carroll, are you emailing mGhost these days?
>

joke is on me. I was going to say you can't email me and point to my
clever use of mouse-potato when I realized I fucked it up big time by
misspelling it. he he he I'm a freaking bone-head.

Anyway, now that I have fixed it, you will see the email address
(correctly spelled) and the whole point of using mouse-potato.com.

Do a domain look up for it and see what it says. Old trick, when
executed by a trained professional and not a moron like me.

[Steve Carroll]

mGhost insists that he uses Linux, while of course he never used it on anything but an emulator and faithfully worked with it. I just use score: -9999 and do not see the flooding. mGhost's flooding has made a full-out ruin of usenet via GG, so I don't endeavor replying to your posts with my client anymore. One good thing he has succeeded at with this behavior though is that the mGhost ban will *never* be lifted. I am an absolute fan of GnuPG, because that's where all the stimulating breakthroughs are happening.

mGhost would have to have intense madness to be unsure of if he "once had" built GnuPG with William Poaster. When a guy can not tell the same tale one day and the next and utilizes false, self-esteem protecting codswallop later, it's very apparent what his tactic is.

How is barely used existing brain matter tied to love of GnuPG in any way going to lead to enlightened usenet dialog?

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[Steve Carroll]

Contrary to Peter 'The Flooder' Kohlmann's claim that he has "no interest in making a flood bot" (a lie as shown by the fact that he posts over 1000 times a month) he was quoted asking IT departments how they would trick someone to give up their password.

LXQt is likely my second favorite DE and the only one I suggest to Mac morons. Primary interface is Cinnamon, though. A good web browser is all you want after you install it.

I do not understand that. Unawareness is unawareness and there are "advocates" who are fine with it. Many are even musicians. He is a moron people have plonked his socks. What he really should use is one that keeps switching names, then the auto-posts have a possibility at being one quarter as idiotic as he is.

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[Steve Carroll]

Tizen runs on the Unity kernel. So yeah, Unity is mobile. Unity is a super computer. Unity is a server. Unity is a desktop. Unity is growing in market share.

Ha, ha, ha!

It's a long story, and Vallor is simultaneously unable to stop his trolling remarks, while posting with nyms that speak just like him. These posts are clearly not automated, they are made by Vallor who is a glue sniffing insomniac with an axe to grind who has way too much time on his hands (with maybe some scripted pre-processing). mGhost can create a virtual machine. Let's make sure he gets all the cookies in the world!

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[Snit]

I don’t get it. Maybe will feel foolish once I do.

[mGhost]

On 2019-12-16, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> mGhost <mGh...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>> On 2019-12-16, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 12/15/19 9:36 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>> Marek admitted Carroll repeatedly asked him to lie:
>>>>
>>>> Marek<NPWdnVgF_NwsozXE...@giganews.com>:
>>>> -----
>>>> When I first tried to broker peace between you [Steve Carroll] and
>>>> Snit, you emailed me over and over again asking be to lie about
>>>> Glasser.
>>>> -----
>>>
>>> Curious, Carroll, are you emailing mGhost these days?
>>>
>>
>> joke is on me. I was going to say you can't email me and point to my
>> clever use of mouse-potato when I realized I fucked it up big time by
>> misspelling it. he he he I'm a freaking bone-head.
>>
>> Anyway, now that I have fixed it, you will see the email address
>> (correctly spelled) and the whole point of using mouse-potato.com.
>>
>> Do a domain look up for it and see what it says. Old trick, when
>> executed by a trained professional and not a moron like me.
>>
>
> I don’t get it. Maybe will feel foolish once I do.
>

okay, if it is not obvious, try to email me. In fact, everyone here is
free to email me all you like. Give it a try and see what happens. And
then it should be obvious. Should be obvious anyway, but if it isn't,
try to email me. Try to spam me. Try to give my address to known
spammers. Seriously, try ANYTHING you like. ANYTHING at all.

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[Steve Carroll]

In fact William Poaster's lies only grew. So obviously I regret assisting William Poaster. While I am sure his shills appreciated it, being nice to him made things worse. William Poaster's toned down the endless egotistical, idiotic threads he used to produce but he is clearly the same in the honor area. He just uses shills more to make those attacks.

That lame duck update system failed over and over again. "Somewhere between 1992 or 2004 I trusted mGhost - the completely angry liar" - William Poaster.

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[Snit]

Last thing I emailed was a character sheet for the Wendy’s RPG for someone
playing an Order of the Baked Potato PC. Would send that to you if I
thought it would work. :)