OT- who Seriously here will vote for Donald Trump for president?

[RayLopez99]

Seriously? I would say DFS (Doofus) for sure, and also (f)Owl.

Any others?

By seriously I mean in private, not what they publicly claim. It's like Chrisv and/or Chris Angstrom: he claims to be a Linux user, but all his posts are from machines running Windows. He's not a serious Linux (l)user.

Seriously, who would vote for Trump?

RL

[Steve Carroll]

Someone who believes Clinton would be worse... and there are plenty of reasons for that.

[owl]

RayLopez99 <raylo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seriously? I would say DFS (Doofus) for sure, and also (f)Owl.
>

Damn straight, Dopez. He's got my vote. Are you worried that he'll
send you back?

> Any others?
>
> By seriously I mean in private, not what they publicly claim. It's like Chrisv and/or Chris Angstrom: he claims to be a Linux user, but all his posts are from machines running Windows. He's not a serious Linux (l)user.
>
> Seriously, who would vote for Trump?
>

I heard a caller on the radio today -- a Sanders supporter -- who said
that if Bernie loses the nomination he's going to vote for Trump. His
reason is that Trump is the only candidate to come out and say that
the insurance companies are ripping us off. When asked who he would
go for if both Bernie and Trump lose their nominations, he said there
isn't anybody else. Everybody else is the same old shit we've had
forever.

[Jeff-Relf.Me]

 
RayLopez99 asks:
> Seriously, who would vote for Trump?

Why vote ? I don't get it.

Trump is all ego, no brain... adults love him.
Bernie Sanders is all zelot, no brain; kids love him. 

Marco Rubio doesn't impress me.
Hillary will win, I assume.  She's OK.

[John Gohde]

Jeff is a mentally ill ass hole. Get lost cretin!

[John Gohde]

On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 10:33:18 PM UTC-5, RayLopez99 wrote:
>
> Seriously, who would vote for Trump?

It is Super Tuesday.

Anybody asking this question at this point in time is a mental moron, plain and simple.

[Slimer]

On 2016-02-29 10:33 PM, RayLopez99 wrote:
> Seriously? I would say DFS (Doofus) for sure, and also (f)Owl.

If I were in the United States, I would vote for the guy and very proudly.

> Any others?
>
> By seriously I mean in private, not what they publicly claim. It's like Chrisv and/or Chris Angstrom: he claims to be a Linux user, but all his posts are from machines running Windows. He's not a serious Linux (l)user.
>
> Seriously, who would vote for Trump?

People who are tired of being told that the candidate will "do something
for the little guy" only to find out that the person they are voting for
had been bought out years ago. Trump might not be perfect but neither
are any of the puppets on stage with him. Kasich looks good to me as did
Rand Paul but the others are a complete joke.


--
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia Member / Conservative Party of Canada, PETA, IFAW and
Mozilla Supporter
"There are 50 million Muslims in Europe, 80% are beggars on welfare."

[JEDIDIAH]

On 2016-03-01, RayLopez99 <raylo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seriously? I would say DFS (Doofus) for sure, and also (f)Owl.
>
> Any others?

Well, if the communist party candidate pretending to be a Democrat gets
the nomination I will be sorely tempted despite how much I despise Trump.

Then again, due to the Electoral College my vote likely won't matter
either way.

[Chris Ahlstrom]

JEDIDIAH wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2016-03-01, RayLopez99 <raylo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>

>> Chris Angstrom:

Heh, one of my old "nicknames".

>> he claims to be a Linux user, but all his posts are from
>> machines running Windows. He's not a serious Linux (l)user.

Me? All my posts of from Linux, although a couple times
I have shelled into this "server" from Windows using "PuTTY",
and sometimes from my Android tablet or Android phone using
"ConnectBot".

--
One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has
only nine lives.
-- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar"

[Mel]

On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 19:51:06 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom
<OFee...@teleworm.us> wrote:
> JEDIDIAH wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:


> > On 2016-03-01, RayLopez99 <raylo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Chris Angstrom:


> Heh, one of my old "nicknames".


> >> he claims to be a Linux user, but all his posts are from
> >> machines running Windows. He's not a serious Linux (l)user.


> Me? All my posts of from Linux, although a couple times
> I have shelled into this "server" from Windows using "PuTTY",
> and sometimes from my Android tablet or Android phone using
> "ConnectBot".

Heh, this is from my Android phone:)
Sometimes I also post from iMac...

--
Press any key to continue or any other to quit

[Tattoo Vampire]

JEDIDIAH posted:

> Well, if the communist party candidate pretending to be a Democrat
> gets
> the nomination I will be sorely tempted despite how much I despise
> Trump.

Who's the Communist candidate?

[Slimer]

Whoever you're supporting.

[chrisv]

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>> Dopez:

>>>
>>> he claims to be a Linux user, but all his posts are from
>>> machines running Windows. He's not a serious Linux (l)user.
>
>Me? All my posts of from Linux, although a couple times
>I have shelled into this "server" from Windows using "PuTTY",
>and sometimes from my Android tablet or Android phone using
>"ConnectBot".

These trolls lie with no shame at all. Lies that are easily proven
false. Obviously false.

Very strange.

--
"Oh yeah - pointing out that (chrisv) made two opposing claims" -
trolling fsckwit "Ezekiel", lying shamelessly (Saying that a product
will be successful, and saying that most people will not buy it, are
*not* "opposing claims".)

[chrisv]

JEDIDIAH wrote:

>Well, if the communist party candidate pretending to be a Democrat gets
>the nomination I will be sorely tempted despite how much I despise Trump.

Like someone on the TV said, the other night, it's getting so that we
elect presidents like we select the next "American Idol".

God help us.

--
'You COLA "advocates" are simply worthless pond scum.' - trolling
fsckwit "Ezekiel"

[ronb]

I'm not voting for any of these bozos. But if someone held guns to my
kid's heads and told me to vote for one of these losers or they would
pull the triggers, I would vote for Trump (or maybe Carson). Trump may be
a blow-hard and a lout, but at least he's not a "professional" lying
politician. The Democrats have an arrogant lying hag and a senile old
communist. The Republicans have the blowhard (Trump) the empty suit,
repeat-o-matic, Koch bought and paid for robot (Rubio), the whack-a-
doodle religious nutcase (Cruz), the older Koch establishment boy, Kasich
(however you spell his name) and Carson (who has his own issues).

What a gaggle of goobers.

--
Zero tolerance for WinDrones and iCultists

[ronb]

Sanders -- but at least he believes in something.

[Chris Ahlstrom]

ronb wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> I'm not voting for any of these bozos. But if someone held guns to my
> kid's heads and told me to vote for one of these losers or they would
> pull the triggers, I would vote for Trump (or maybe Carson). Trump may be
> a blow-hard and a lout, but at least he's not a "professional" lying
> politician.

You're right. He's a "professional" lying real-estate developer.

--
When one burns one's bridges, what a very nice fire it makes.
-- Dylan Thomas

[ronb]

On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 14:27:44 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> ronb wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> I'm not voting for any of these bozos. But if someone held guns to my
>> kid's heads and told me to vote for one of these losers or they would
>> pull the triggers, I would vote for Trump (or maybe Carson). Trump may
>> be a blow-hard and a lout, but at least he's not a "professional" lying
>> politician.
>
> You're right. He's a "professional" lying real-estate developer.

Yep. And they may be stupid answers, but at least he actually ANSWERS
questions. Americans are fed up with mealy-mouthed politicians who, when
asked a straight question, will non-answer with a "we will see what the
American people want" over and over again (like a broken record). (Take
your bows, Rubio.)

[Dr. John Grubor]

ronb wrote:

> Sanders -- but at least he believes in something.

Sanders is a socialist. There is a difference, you know. People who call
him a Communist just show their ignorance.

[Dr. John Grubor]

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> You're right. He's a "professional" lying real-estate developer.

He's a liar, period. And with plenty of failures under his belt, not
including his four bankruptcies.

Anyone who would remotely consider voting for the orange idiot needs to
have a lobotomy.

[Dr. John Grubor]

ronb wrote:

> Yep. And they may be stupid answers, but at least he actually ANSWERS
> questions.

No, he doesn't. He throws out generalities. Build a wall. Ship the
ragheads back. I'm going to put a bunch of smart people in a room and tell
them to do it.

He's also pretty stupid if he's never heard of David Duke, the white
supremicist who just endorsed the Trump campaign.

[sbd]

Actually he does not answer any questions. Every time a question is
asked that he does not like, he puckers his mouth like a fish and says
“No, no, no, no……..” and gets into a confrontation with the interviewer.

The major problem I have with Trump is his hair, you know the coiffured
hair. I see a lot of deception there!

[Slimer]

Everyone knows who David Duke is and there was no reason for me to
believe that Trump didn't. However, he might not have been aware of the
comments made and therefore resisted reacting to something he had not
heard of.

[Chris Ahlstrom]

sbd wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

And with the orange tan, too! :-D

--
You will be run over by a beer truck.

[chrisv]

Dr. John Grubor wrote:

> ronb wrote:
>>
>> Yep. And they may be stupid answers, but at least he actually ANSWERS
>> questions.
>
>No, he doesn't. He throws out generalities. Build a wall. Ship the
>ragheads back. I'm going to put a bunch of smart people in a room and tell
>them to do it.

Yeah, saying that you'll do something is quite different than actually
having a viable plan for doing it in a legal and practical (not to
mention ethical) way. Absurd proposals, like banning Muslims from the
US, do no good for anyone, and only do harm.

--
"I hate practising Muslims." - "Slimer"

[Slimer]

That's a lie. Trump answers questions thought does not go into
specifics. I saw it as a problem at first until I realized that he is
doing so to prevent the competition from stealing his ideas as they
already have. At the end of the day, we know what his global plan is and
that's enough; the specifics will be taken care of once he's in office
and able to surround himself with the right people to get the job done.

> The major problem I have with Trump is his hair, you know the coiffured
> hair. I see a lot of deception there!

The problem I have with Hillary is that she's a criminal who hasn't done
a thing to benefit society so far and the problem I have with Bernie
Sanders is that he hadn't held a real job until the age of 40, doesn't
believe in free enterprise and thinks that giving away freebies to the
community will somehow allow them to prosper rather than become bigger
parasites than they already are. What an idiotic remark you make though,
as if hair was an indicator that someone wasn't ready for office.
Abraham Lincoln was a butt-ugly individual as well, perhaps he should
never have been in office!

[flatfish+++]

On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 09:34:34 -0000 (UTC), Dr. John Grubor wrote:

> ronb wrote:
>
>> Yep. And they may be stupid answers, but at least he actually ANSWERS
>> questions.
>
> No, he doesn't. He throws out generalities. Build a wall. Ship the
> ragheads back. I'm going to put a bunch of smart people in a room and tell
> them to do it.

True statement.
However, your last statement is the crux of it and is how the
president should run the country. That is what a young Jack Kennedy
did and that is what people expected young, inexperienced Obama to do.

Obama failed that test. He surrounded himself with crooks and inept
ineffective people for the most part and it hurt his presidency.

Donald has been doing just that his whole life.

This country needs something vastly different from what we have and
have had for the past 2 decades, or more.

I agree the choices are poor:

Rubio is the GOP's little puppet. He is the annointed one now that
Bush flamed out.

Cruz scares me because he seems to be a person who will literally do
anything to win this election. I wonder about his integrity.

Trump is a clown, no doubt. But he is the only one who is an outsider
and also stands a chance of winning.

The fact that the entrenched Republicans are lining up to take him
down should show that they are frightened that their gravy train is
coming to a stop.

> He's also pretty stupid if he's never heard of David Duke, the white
> supremicist who just endorsed the Trump campaign.

I think he meant he didn't "know him", meaning personally.
If not, I agree, he blew that one big time.
People don't care though, just like they don't seem to care about
Hillary's problems and baggage.

[Dr. John Grubor]

ronb wrote:

> Sanders -- but at least he believes in something.

Sanders is a socialist. You do know the dirrerence, correct?

[flatfish+++]

Yes he is.
But he seems like an honest person and has been singing the same
message for a long time. That's unusual for a politician most of whom
flip flop constantly.

I don't agree with most of what he proposes as a solution to USA
problems but he is correct when he says the system is rigged and I do
feel he is sincere in his message.

[Lloyd Parsons]

Yes, he answers questions. Of course his answers are generally of the
vague, sound-bite type and take positions on whichever side of the issue
is convenient at the time. IOW, a consummate bullshit artist.

>> The major problem I have with Trump is his hair, you know the coiffured
>> hair. I see a lot of deception there!
>
> The problem I have with Hillary is that she's a criminal who hasn't done
> a thing to benefit society so far and the problem I have with Bernie
> Sanders is that he hadn't held a real job until the age of 40, doesn't
> believe in free enterprise and thinks that giving away freebies to the
> community will somehow allow them to prosper rather than become bigger
> parasites than they already are. What an idiotic remark you make though,
> as if hair was an indicator that someone wasn't ready for office.
> Abraham Lincoln was a butt-ugly individual as well, perhaps he should
> never have been in office!

I have a problem with all of the front runners on both sides. I'm
generally a Democrat but have voted otherwise over the years. This year
I would have hoped for a good Republican candidate, but it appears that
won't happen yet again.

IMO, of the Republicans running now, Kasich seems to be the most
qualified and I suspect he could get my vote.

But if it is Trump vs Hillary I may just have to do the one thing I've
never done. And that is just stay home on election day. :(



--
Lloyd

[ronb]

No, I specifically used the word "communist." I know the difference.

[ronb]

I didn't say he makes smart answers. I said he answers the question --
often using the word "I" instead of "the American people."

As David Duke, I'll take his word for it that his earbud wasn't working
right. A couple years ago he attacked David Duke on a talk show, so I
think he knows who he is.

[ronb]

I think he said that he would have a better vetting procedure before
allowing them in -- not that he would ban them. Probably not a bad idea,
since (in Europe) a lot of the "Syrian" refugees are coming from
Afghanistan and Pakistan.

[ronb]

And the other politicians (with the possible exception of Carson) are NOT
liars. Are you really that gullible?

[ronb]

On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 08:18:53 -0400, sbd wrote:

> Actually he does not answer any questions. Every time a question is
> asked that he does not like, he puckers his mouth like a fish and says
> “No, no, no, no……..” and gets into a confrontation with the interviewer.

Probably because the "interviewers" (establishment, media prostitute
"hitmen") are asking questions like "Have you quit beating your wife
yet?" In other words, questions with no good answers. But he has answered
questions like, "What will you do about illegal immigration?" These are
the kind of questions Rubio (for example) answers with total ambiguity
and the phrase "the American people" over and over again.

[ronb]

On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 07:53:15 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> And with the orange tan, too! :-D

Yep, I agree, he's not a "slick" empty suit airhead, like Rubio.

[ronb]

Yep. I know the difference. I used "communist" purposely.

[flatfish+++]

I saw that clip and Trump did look very confused when originally asked
that question.
Probably some truth to it.

[flatfish+++]

Rubio is the RNC's chosen boy.
Bush flamed out so Rubio is now their puppet.

[chrisv]

ronb wrote:

>And the other politicians (with the possible exception of Carson) are NOT
>liars.

Hillary. She's as pure as the driven snow.


Just kidding! 8)

--
"Rush Limbaugh=another poster boy for Linux." - trolling fsckwit
"Ezekiel"

[Chris Ahlstrom]

chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> --
> "Rush Limbaugh=another poster boy for Linux." - trolling fsckwit
> "Ezekiel"

Dafuq?

--
Training is everything. The peach was once a bitter almond; cauliflower is
nothing but cabbage with a college education.
-- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar"

[owl]

Duke did not endorse Trump.

http://www.ibtimes.com/david-dukes-donald-trump-endorsement-never-happened-former-kkk-grand-wizard-says-2329067
<quote>
I made it really clear [on the radio] that I did not endorse Donald
Trump, that I have many differences with him, and that Donald Trump is
not endorsing me.
</quote>

[RayLopez99]

On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 7:16:04 PM UTC+8, John Gohde wrote:
> On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 10:33:18 PM UTC-5, RayLopez99 wrote:
> >
> > Seriously, who would vote for Trump?
>
>
> It is Super Tuesday.
>
> Anybody asking this question at this point in time is a mental
> moron,
> plain and simple.

Reading comprehension problem old boy? November presidential elections is the issue, not the Republican primary, which I concede will go to Trump.

RL

[sbd]

Not a lie at all! He does not go into specifics because he has no
specifics, just a dumb ass with coiffured hair. He is a con man who is
only interested in lining his pocket with doe. The internet is rife with
how Trump has done people in. Start with Trump university.

>> The major problem I have with Trump is his hair, you know the coiffured
>> hair. I see a lot of deception there!
>
> The problem I have with Hillary is that she's a criminal who hasn't done
> a thing to benefit society so far and the problem I have with Bernie
> Sanders is that he hadn't held a real job until the age of 40, doesn't
> believe in free enterprise and thinks that giving away freebies to the
> community will somehow allow them to prosper rather than become bigger
> parasites than they already are. What an idiotic remark you make though,
> as if hair was an indicator that someone wasn't ready for office.
> Abraham Lincoln was a butt-ugly individual as well, perhaps he should
> never have been in office!
>

I don't know if Abraham Lincoln was butt-ugly, but he was a man of
character and vision. Trump has nothing he can claim to be good, in
fact he is nothing but a self-centered buffoon who will run this country
into the ground and pocket a big pile of cash. I still maintain that his
coiffured hair has a lot of deception woven into it. I will have respect
for him if he will stand in the middle of a field on a windy day without
his ball cap. You will see the nest on his head fly off and roll down
the field like tumble weed.

You are the type who has his nose lodged tight up against Trump's butt
crack and tell us everything smells rosy. I got it!

I hear there is an island in the eastern part of your country where
American refuges will be accepted if Trump gets elected. There are all
these compassionate people in your country, what went wrong with you?

[chrisv]

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>> --
>> "Rush Limbaugh=another poster boy for Linux." - trolling fsckwit
>> "Ezekiel"
>
> Dafuq?

I don't remember what prompted Kreep to spew that particular bit of
fsckwittery. But we all know that trolling haters don't need truth of
logic - all they need are idiocy and lies.

--
"Quite ironic that (chrisv) thinks I'm being dishonest because back in
2009 I didn't rename the original title of the article to something
that a turd like him finds acceptable." - trolling fsckwit
"Ezekiel", lying shamelessly

[Slimer]

Trump has already provided evidence that his business indeed got an A
from the Better Business Bureau. I trust their take a lot more than I do
that of an inconsequential and uninformed liberal, Linux loser like you.

>>> The major problem I have with Trump is his hair, you know the coiffured
>>> hair. I see a lot of deception there!
>>
>> The problem I have with Hillary is that she's a criminal who hasn't done
>> a thing to benefit society so far and the problem I have with Bernie
>> Sanders is that he hadn't held a real job until the age of 40, doesn't
>> believe in free enterprise and thinks that giving away freebies to the
>> community will somehow allow them to prosper rather than become bigger
>> parasites than they already are. What an idiotic remark you make though,
>> as if hair was an indicator that someone wasn't ready for office.
>> Abraham Lincoln was a butt-ugly individual as well, perhaps he should
>> never have been in office!
>>
>
> I don't know if Abraham Lincoln was butt-ugly, but he was a man of
> character and vision. Trump has nothing he can claim to be good, in
> fact he is nothing but a self-centered buffoon who will run this country
> into the ground and pocket a big pile of cash. I still maintain that his
> coiffured hair has a lot of deception woven into it. I will have respect
> for him if he will stand in the middle of a field on a windy day without
> his ball cap. You will see the nest on his head fly off and roll down
> the field like tumble weed.

He took a one million loan and turned it into a multi-billion-dollar
enterprise; I couldn't care less what his hair looks like.

> You are the type who has his nose lodged tight up against Trump's butt
> crack and tell us everything smells rosy. I got it!
>
> I hear there is an island in the eastern part of your country where
> American refuges will be accepted if Trump gets elected. There are all
> these compassionate people in your country, what went wrong with you?

Nova Scotia is a liberal place and always has been due to the fact that
they get lots of free money from the Liberal Party whenever they are in
power. It just makes sense that they would want to cater to liberal
morons like Miley Cyrus who will parade around naked for attention and
then cry because Donald Trump might become the president. What's always
shocking in politics is that conservative parties will end up with a
small debt or deficit and be remembered as the worst monsters on Earth
by the liberal media but if a liberal government completely decimates
society by hemorrhaging money, losing tons of jobs and lowering the
standard of life, they will be treated like gods. Obama is and was a
disaster but liberals still treat him like a saint whereas Trump hasn't
yet had a taste of political power and he is already being viewed as the
reincarnation of Joseph Stalin by left-wing imbeciles such as yourself.

[JEDIDIAH]

On 2016-03-03, Dr. John Grubor <gru...@grubor.invalid> wrote:
> ronb wrote:
>

>> Sanders -- but at least he believes in something.
>

> Sanders is a socialist. There is a difference, you know. People who call
> him a Communist just show their ignorance.

You mean like all of the Soviet expatriates?

Good like trying to sell that assinine bit of smugness to anyone else
outside of your own personal echo chamber.

[JEDIDIAH]

It's already a 2 year process now, but nobody is going to be happy if you
tell them that. You have to feed into their fear and anger or risk being
labeled part of the establishment or some other nonsense like that.

We simply don't have the same problems as Europe in this regard because of
geography. Pointing this out to the electorate probably wouldn't go over well
either.

[JEDIDIAH]

On 2016-03-03, Dr. John Grubor <gru...@grubor.invalid> wrote:

> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> You're right. He's a "professional" lying real-estate developer.
>

> He's a liar, period. And with plenty of failures under his belt, not
> including his four bankruptcies.
>
> Anyone who would remotely consider voting for the orange idiot needs to
> have a lobotomy.

In his own party, the next available option is someone that tried to shut
down the goverment and cause a credit default. Any choice can only be
considered in the context in which it is offered.

[owl]

He wants a deer in his pocket?

From: sbd <sbd....@safe-mail.net>
Message-ID: <nbbsv3$scm$1...@dont-email.me>
<quote>
You right-wing dumbfuckingasshole learn to write properly in the first
place.
</quote>

[Chris Ahlstrom]

JEDIDIAH wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Communism_vs_Socialism

Most notably, while communism is a political system, socialism is
primarily an economic system that can exist in various forms under a wide
range of political systems.

--
Q: Why did the chicken cross the road?
A: To see his friend Gregory peck.

Q: Why did the chicken cross the playground?
A: To get to the other slide.

[Chris Ahlstrom]

JEDIDIAH wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

Heh, ol' Hillary's lookin' pretty good, hmmm? More world-experience than
any other candidate, hopefully chastened and educated by her significant
mistakes, toughened by hard experience, and, as a woman, manifestly more
alive and sensitive than a bunch of dead white men!

;->

--
So she went into the garden to cut a cabbage leaf to make an apple pie;
and at the same time a great she-bear, coming up the street pops its head
into the shop. "What! no soap?" So he died, and she very imprudently
married the barber; and there were present the Picninnies, and the Grand
Panjandrum himself, with the little round button at top, and they all
fell to playing the game of catch as catch can, till the gunpowder ran
out at the heels of their boots.
-- Samuel Foote

[JEDIDIAH]

On 2016-03-05, Chris Ahlstrom <OFee...@teleworm.us> wrote:
> JEDIDIAH wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2016-03-03, Dr. John Grubor <gru...@grubor.invalid> wrote:
>>> ronb wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sanders -- but at least he believes in something.
>>>
>>> Sanders is a socialist. There is a difference, you know. People who call
>>> him a Communist just show their ignorance.
>>
>> You mean like all of the Soviet expatriates?
>>
>> Good like trying to sell that assinine bit of smugness to anyone else
>> outside of your own personal echo chamber.
>
> http://www.diffen.com/difference/Communism_vs_Socialism

Great.

I talk about firsthand accounts and you dredge up something from the
web like a lame ass Lemming troll.

[Chris Ahlstrom]

LOL You're full of it, Jed.

Next you'll be saying that Sander hails from Communist Russia, "Red" China,
or Cuba.

Get with the pogrom! :-D

--
Your talents will be recognized and suitably rewarded.

[ronb]

On Fri, 04 Mar 2016 19:22:12 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> JEDIDIAH wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2016-03-03, Dr. John Grubor <gru...@grubor.invalid> wrote:
>>> ronb wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sanders -- but at least he believes in something.
>>>
>>> Sanders is a socialist. There is a difference, you know. People who
>>> call him a Communist just show their ignorance.
>>
>> You mean like all of the Soviet expatriates?
>>
>> Good like trying to sell that assinine bit of smugness to anyone
>> else
>> outside of your own personal echo chamber.
>
> http://www.diffen.com/difference/Communism_vs_Socialism
>
> Most notably, while communism is a political system, socialism is
> primarily an economic system that can exist in various forms under a
> wide range of political systems.

Here are some of the songs on the Democratic Socialists of America's
website that Bernie Sanders' Congressional Progressive Caucus shared
servers with ...

(Can still be found on the Way Back Machine.)

"Red Revolution" sung to the tune of "Red, Red Robbin."

When the Red Revolution
Brings Its Solution
Along, Along

There’ll be no more lootin’
When we start shootin’
That Wall Street throng

Wake up you proletarians
Don’t act like seminarians
Expropriate Barbarians
Build a Workers’ Republic

Exploitation and Degradation
You Won’t Find Here
Surplus Value and Capital Will Disappear

I’m Just a Red again,
Saying what I’ve said again,
When the Red Revolution… da, da, da, da
Brings Its Solution…da, da, da, da, da
Along

“Are You Sleeping, Bourgeoisie,” sung to the tune of “Frere Jacques.”

Are you sleeping, Are you sleeping,
Bourgeoisie, Bourgeoisie,
And when the revolution comes,
We’ll kill you all with knives and guns,
Bourgeoisie, Bourgeoisie

“Bourgeoisie, Bourgeoisie, See How They Run,” sung to the tune of “Three
Blind Mice”

Bourgeoisie, Bourgeoisie,
See how they run,
See how they run

And when the revolution comes,
We’ll kill them all with knives and guns,
Bourgeoisie, Bourgeoisie

Nice, huh? Very "socialist," not "communist" at all. Bernie is just a
"nice, old socialist."

Oh, and Bernie used to hang a Soviet Union Flag in his office.

And, by the way, we know USSR was not communist because they called
themselves the "Soviet SOCIALIST Republics of Russia."

[ronb]

On Fri, 04 Mar 2016 19:26:28 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Heh, ol' Hillary's lookin' pretty good, hmmm? More world-experience
> than any other candidate, hopefully chastened and educated by her
> significant mistakes, toughened by hard experience, and, as a woman,
> manifestly more alive and sensitive than a bunch of dead white men!

Hillary Clinton is a pathological liar and an arrogant old hag. Which is
exactly what she "looks like." She thinks laws apply to everyone else but
her. Just another entitled bitch.

[owl]

If Little Beaver wasn't feelin the burn before that post, he's
feelin it now. Good job.

[owl]

ronb <ronb02...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Mar 2016 19:26:28 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Heh, ol' Hillary's lookin' pretty good, hmmm? More world-experience
>> than any other candidate,

Fiorina to Clinton: ‘Flying is an activity, not an accomplishment’

>> hopefully chastened and educated by her
>> significant mistakes, toughened by hard experience, and, as a woman,
>> manifestly more alive and sensitive than a bunch of dead white men!
>
> Hillary Clinton is a pathological liar and an arrogant old hag. Which is
> exactly what she "looks like." She thinks laws apply to everyone else but
> her. Just another entitled bitch.
>

Forgive Little Beaver's mush-headed reasoning. He's used to being led
around by a woman.

[Chris Ahlstrom]

ronb wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

Propaganda all around us :-(

--
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[Chris Ahlstrom]

ronb wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Fri, 04 Mar 2016 19:22:12 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> JEDIDIAH wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 2016-03-03, Dr. John Grubor <gru...@grubor.invalid> wrote:
>>>> ronb wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sanders -- but at least he believes in something.
>>>>
>>>> Sanders is a socialist. There is a difference, you know. People who
>>>> call him a Communist just show their ignorance.
>>>
>>> You mean like all of the Soviet expatriates?
>>>
>>> Good like trying to sell that assinine bit of smugness to anyone
>>> else
>>> outside of your own personal echo chamber.
>>
>> http://www.diffen.com/difference/Communism_vs_Socialism
>>
>> Most notably, while communism is a political system, socialism is
>> primarily an economic system that can exist in various forms under a
>> wide range of political systems.
>
> Here are some of the songs on the Democratic Socialists of America's
> website that Bernie Sanders' Congressional Progressive Caucus shared
> servers with ...
>
> (Can still be found on the Way Back Machine.)
>
> "Red Revolution" sung to the tune of "Red, Red Robbin."

Had to go "way back" for that one, eh.

> --
> Zero tolerance


--
Mind! I don't mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what there is
particularly dead about a door-nail. I might have been inclined, myself,
to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade.
But the wisdom of our ancestors is in the simile; and my unhallowed hands
shall not disturb it, or the Country's done for. You will therefore permit
me to repeat, emphatically, that Marley was as dead as a door-nail.
-- Charles Dickens, "A Christmas Carol"

[flatfish+++]

He's right though.
I found ronb's post about Bernie's communist roots interesting. I have
to do more research on that one. People do change though. But not Hill
and Bill.

[flatfish+++]

Interesting.
I never knew that about Bernie.
I need to do some research.

[flatfish+++]

+1

[sbd]

On 03/04/2016 10:47 AM, Slimer wrote:
> On 2016-03-04 7:16 AM, sbd wrote:
>
> Trump has already provided evidence that his business indeed got an A
> from the Better Business Bureau. I trust their take a lot more than I do
> that of an inconsequential and uninformed liberal, Linux loser like you.
>

A from BBB, they automatically declare that after a few bankruptcies, I
am not surprised.

Now turning to you, Are you a winner in your virtual imaginary school or
are you despised as much there as you are here.

[sbd]

I think you meant, He wants a buck in his pocket?

> From: sbd <sbd....@safe-mail.net>
> Message-ID: <nbbsv3$scm$1...@dont-email.me>
> <quote>
> You right-wing dumbfuckingasshole learn to write properly in the first
> place.

Are you admiring my colorful language? “You right-wing
dumbfuckingasshole” Thank you! Sometimes when the powerful urge descends
on me, I launch into my poetic mode.



> </quote>
>

[Slimer]

+1. ronb just reminded me why I don't filter him.

--
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia Member / Conservative Party of Canada, PETA, IFAW Supporter

"There are 50 million Muslims in Europe, 80% are beggars on welfare."

Linux is the universal word for garbage

[ronb]

And you think Bernie Sanders has changed recently? What makes him
attractive to his followers is his zeal for the cause. The problem is,
his cause is communism -- even though he calls it socialism.

[ronb]

Hey, if you want to vote for the pathological lying hag or the senile old
communist -- go for it. Choice is good, but it doesn't automatically mean
people make the right choice.

Meanwhile we'll get to hear "stories" about how Hillary Clinton was named
after Sir Hillary (who was unknown when she was born), or how her plane
was shot at while over former Yugoslavia (flat out lie), or how she
didn't know a Secretary of State's email is automatically confidential.
The entitled, lying old hag still hasn't explained why she needed to set
up a separate email server to start with.

[flatfish+++]

Thanks for posting that information on Bernie.
The reason I like Bernie is that from what I can see, what you see is
what you get. I don't agree with much of what he says however he does
have a point regarding the system being rigged.
It is.
And we can certainly see what is going on in the Republican party now
that Trump might actually win.
It is scary how they are mobilizing to take Trump down and it plainly
shows how the system really is rigged to keep the political hacks in
office.

Dragging Romney out was pathetic and it's going to backfire on the
establishment candidates.

People need to wake up and I do believe they are.

The politicians still don't get it. This has nothing to do with Trump
being a good candidate, a poor candidate and so forth. It has
everything to do with electing someone who is outside of the political
circles and at the same time has the know how to run billion dollar
companies efficiently.

That's what it's all about.

And that is why Bernie is attracting tons of people as well.
Unfortunately there is still a faction of people who are foolish
enough to believe Hillary is their savior and will lead them to the
promised land.

It ain't gonna happen.
It's going to be 4 mybe 8 more years of Obama's failed policies.
And that just may destroy the country.

[flatfish+++]

The fact that someone with all the baggage Hillary has is poised to
win the Democratic nomination is sad. Very sad.

They call Trump a con artist?

Hillary and Bill are the biggest con artists on earth.
And so is Obama.

People focus on Trump's failures and that's fine but what people don't
understand is that in order to build wealth and become successful you
need to take risks. You need to diversify, try new things and when
something fails pick up, regroup and start over again.

Any successful person, at any level, will tell you the same thing.

And if you haven't failed at some things along the way then you have a
lot to learn because at some point you will fail. It will happen. You
can either learn from it or brood about it fall deeper into failure.

[vallor]

Which has fsck-all to do with Linux.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-baiting

ObLinux:

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[ronb]

On Sat, 05 Mar 2016 21:32:28 +0000, vallor wrote:

> Which has fsck-all to do with Linux.

About as much as most of your posts have to do with Linux. Tagging on an
excerpt from the man pages doesn't make a post "about Linux."

>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-baiting

As for red-baiting, in the case of Bernie Sanders, it's just a matter of
public record. He's communist. Period. A little research will prove it.

[vallor]

On Sat, 05 Mar 2016 21:38:39 +0000, ronb wrote:

> On Sat, 05 Mar 2016 21:32:28 +0000, vallor wrote:
>
>> Which has fsck-all to do with Linux.
>
> About as much as most of your posts have to do with Linux. Tagging on an
> excerpt from the man pages doesn't make a post "about Linux."

You seem to be of the opinion that saying something makes it so.

>
>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-baiting
>
> As for red-baiting, in the case of Bernie Sanders, it's just a matter of
> public record. He's communist. Period. A little research will prove it.

You seem to be of the opinion that saying something makes it so.

ObLinux (yes, this is about Linux -- far more than red-baiting is):

PERF(1) perf Manual PERF(1)

NAME
perf - Performance analysis tools for Linux

SYNOPSIS
perf [--version] [--help] [OPTIONS] COMMAND [ARGS]

OPTIONS
--debug
Setup debug variable (see list below) in value range
(0, 10). Use like: --debug verbose # sets verbose =
1 --debug verbose=2 # sets verbose = 2

List of debug variables allowed to set:
verbose - general debug messages
ordered-events - ordered events object debug messages
data-convert - data convert command debug messages

--buildid-dir
Setup buildid cache directory. It has higher
priority than buildid.dir config file option.

-v, --version
Display perf version.

-h, --help
Run perf help command.

DESCRIPTION
Performance counters for Linux are a new kernel-based
subsystem that provide a framework for all things
performance analysis. It covers hardware level (CPU/PMU,
Performance Monitoring Unit) features and software
features (software counters, tracepoints) as well.

SEE ALSO
perf-stat(1), perf-top(1), perf-record(1), perf-
report(1), perf-list(1)

perf 02/17/2016 PERF(1)

[vallor]

On Fri, 04 Mar 2016 13:07:37 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:

> On 2016-03-03, ronb <ronb02...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 07:01:53 -0600, chrisv wrote:
>>
>>> Dr. John Grubor wrote:

>>>
>>>> ronb wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep. And they may be stupid answers, but at least he actually
>>>>> ANSWERS questions.
>>>>

>>>>No, he doesn't. He throws out generalities. Build a wall. Ship the
>>>>ragheads back. I'm going to put a bunch of smart people in a room and
>>>>tell them to do it.
>>>
>>> Yeah, saying that you'll do something is quite different than actually
>>> having a viable plan for doing it in a legal and practical (not to
>>> mention ethical) way. Absurd proposals, like banning Muslims from the
>>> US, do no good for anyone, and only do harm.
>>
>> I think he said that he would have a better vetting procedure before
>> allowing them in -- not that he would ban them. Probably not a bad
>> idea,
>> since (in Europe) a lot of the "Syrian" refugees are coming from
>> Afghanistan and Pakistan.
>>
>>
> It's already a 2 year process now, but nobody is going to be happy if
> you
> tell them that. You have to feed into their fear and anger or risk being
> labeled part of the establishment or some other nonsense like that.
>
> We simply don't have the same problems as Europe in this regard
> because of
> geography. Pointing this out to the electorate probably wouldn't go over
> well either.

(word-wrap turned off so the URL works)

This again has fsck-all to do with Linux, but I'll point this out:

You are correct, Jed.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/11/20/infographic-screening-process-refugee-entry-united-states

Nobody wants a refugee security situation on their watch. Anyone who thinks Syrian refugees can just waltz into the U.S. knows fsck-all about national security.

ObLinux (Yes, this is definitely about Linux):

Proposed: We make Linux literacy a requirement for accepting refugees.

Oh wait, that won't work -- Linux Journal is an "extremist forum" and its readers get flagged for extra surveillance.

http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nsa-linux-journal-extremist-forum-and-its-readers-get-flagged-extra-surveillance

Toodles.

[Dr. John Grubor]

ronb wrote:

> his cause is communism

Nonsense.

[Dr. John Grubor]

flatfish+++ wrote:

> the know how to run billion dollar companies efficiently.

And how to have them file bankruptcy four times, screwing over his
employees, his creditors and of course, the taxpayers.

He did a good job running a nonexistent university that siphoned people
dry, too.

[Chris Ahlstrom]

Obviously he has, as we're not in the habit of electing "communists"
to the Senate.

> What makes him attractive to his followers is his zeal for the cause. The
> problem is, his cause is communism -- even though he calls it socialism.

Sure it is, Ron, sure it is. If he gets elected in spite of being a
"communist", he's going to push his "communist" agenda through the
right-wing Congress, for sure.

Just like, as a U.S. Senator, he pushed his "communist" agenda on the U.S.
Senate.

I kind of like some of the ideas he proposes, in his general opposition to
"socialism, but only for the wealthy", which is basically what we have now.
But something about him bothers me, and it's not that he's for the cause of
the "common man". I'm not sure what it is.

Hell, they rail about Obama being a "socialist", and the right-wing Congress
fought him at every turn. What hope does Bernie have?

Anyway, I'm not going to say a whole lot more except that, like a lot of
people, I'm going to hold my nose and vote the the lesser of two evils.

Whatever that ends up being.

--
You have literary talent that you should take pains to develop.

[Chris Ahlstrom]

ronb wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Meanwhile we'll get to hear "stories" about how Hillary Clinton was named
> after Sir Hillary (who was unknown when she was born), or how her plane
> was shot at while over former Yugoslavia (flat out lie), or how she
> didn't know a Secretary of State's email is automatically confidential.
> The entitled, lying old hag still hasn't explained why she needed to set
> up a separate email server to start with.

I tend not to believe any unbelievable stories I find on the Internet,
whether for or against something.

There are way too many suspect sources out there. They way outnumber
the reliable sources.

Question everything.

--
Someone whom you reject today, will reject you tomorrow.

[vallor]

Yep -- a sitting U.S. senator is a "communist"? Wingnut hyperbole.

ObLinux (of course this is about Linux):

XEphem(1X) XEphem(1X)

Name
XEphem 3.7 - an interactive astronomical ephemeris for
X11

Syntax
xephem [-prfb] [-install {yes|no|guess}] [-resfile
<resourcefile>] [-[no]splash]

Description
XEphem is an interactive astronomical ephemeris program
for the X Window System. It provides many graphical
views as well as quantitative heliocentric, geocentric
and topocentric information for Earth satellites, solar
system and celestial objects.
[...]

Actually, this also pertains to the Linux emulator for Windows, cygwin:

Note that if you are running XEphem under cygwin on
Windows, before starting XEphem set an environment
variable XEHELPURL to the full path of the xephem.html
file on your system using Windows path syntax (not
cygwin paths). This file is in the help directory
within the source directory of the master distribution.
After this is in the place, run xephem and it can use MS
IE to display help.

So you're in luck, Rob, you can have your Windows and eat it too.

[flatfish+++]

On Sat, 5 Mar 2016 21:59:07 -0000 (UTC), Dr. John Grubor wrote:

> flatfish+++ wrote:
>
>> the know how to run billion dollar companies efficiently.
>
> And how to have them file bankruptcy four times, screwing over his
> employees, his creditors and of course, the taxpayers.

There is nothing wrong with legally using the laws that are in place.
Not every business is going to be successful.

> He did a good job running a nonexistent university that siphoned people
> dry, too.

It remains to be seen if those claiming they were ripped off have
valid claims and what percentage of students they comprise.

Have you ever taken a look at Romney's history?
Look up Bain Capital.

Ever look up how many people who were associated with the Clinton's
met with untimely deaths?

How about Cruz's wife being associated with Goldman Sachs and he just
happens to get a low interest mortgage from them?

As for Rubio, he's the now chosen Republican puppet.
Jeb was their real choice but he flamed out.

Speaking of Jeb, you might want to look up what his net worth soared
to after leaving the governorship.

Kasich is probably the only honest one in the pack.

[Lloyd Parsons]

But for all his faults, he has been on the right side of history for a
very long time and is well liked and respected, even by those that don't
agree with him.




--
Lloyd

[Tattoo Vampire]

On Sat, 5 Mar 2016 17:00:53 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Sure it is, Ron, sure it is. If he gets elected in spite of being a
> "communist", he's going to push his "communist" agenda through the
> right-wing Congress, for sure.

Hopefully the right wing Congress is shown the door this fall. Talk about a
bunch of do-nothing pricks.

[flatfish+++]

That's how I feel.
Bernie is one of those what you see is what you get people.
He's been singing the same song for many years.
I don't agree with him but I do respect his integrity, at least from
what I know about him.

[flatfish+++]

The American people should toss them all out.
Both parties.
It's time to throw out the baby with the bath water.

[Lloyd Parsons]

While I very well understand that position, the problem is then the
bureaucrats are in charge because they would be the ones that understand
the rules and procedures.



--
Lloyd

[owl]

vallor <val...@cultnix.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Mar 2016 21:57:39 +0000, Dr. John Grubor wrote:
>
>> ronb wrote:
>>
>>> his cause is communism
>>
>> Nonsense.
>
> Yep -- a sitting U.S. senator is a "communist"?

What would prevent that?


> Wingnut hyperbole.
>

versus libtard blinders.

http://www.cpusa.org/socialism-usa
<quote>
We are, after all, the Communist Party and socialism is at the core of
our identity.
</quote>

[flatfish+++]

It doesn't take a genius to become a politician.
Jesse Ventura
Aronold Schwarzenegger
Al Franken
etc.

[owl]

Because America wants a new law every week, so Congress can up its
"score." Well, every Democrat wants that anyway.

[Lloyd Parsons]

While each congress critter brings along a staff with them, they also
hire from the 'pool' of staffers available when changes happen. Those
staffers help in getting their boss off to a good start. And they would
be the ones guiding those that would come in with a sea change of
people. That could and probably would, result in the staffers having
more control over the processes.

That said, it isn't necessarily a bad thing.



--
Lloyd

[Chris Ahlstrom]

Tattoo Vampire wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

Cong... oh, I thought your were talking about the trolls. :-D

--
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-- Mark Twain

[Dr. John Grubor]

flatfish+++ wrote:

> It remains to be seen if those claiming they were ripped off have valid
> claims and what percentage of students they comprise.

There's three suits pending. One of them has 5,000 people involved. BBB
gave the "university" a D- rating. The "university" was operating without
New York State Education Department license.

> Have you ever taken a look at Romney's history?
> Look up Bain Capital.

Oh, yeah. They bought up companies, bled them dry and then closed the
doors. Thousands of people lost their jobs.

> Ever look up how many people who were associated with the Clinton's met
> with untimely deaths?

http://www.snopes.com/Politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

After Dubya was elected, a Bush Body Account list began circulating via
email. It's just as bogus.

> How about Cruz's wife being associated with Goldman Sachs and he just
> happens to get a low interest mortgage from them?

Coincidence, my good fellow! And it wasn't a "loan" loan, it was, well,
you know, something else.

> Kasich is probably the only honest one in the pack.

There's no room in America for a truly honest politician. That dooms
Kasich and Sanders, too. (RonB will chime in now about the "senile old
Communist")

[Dr. John Grubor]

vallor wrote:

> Yep -- a sitting U.S. senator is a "communist"? Wingnut hyperbole.

It's odd how it seems to be just Americans that attach a sigma to
socialism. That's because most of them are too stupid or uninformed to
know its stark differences with Communism.

[William Poaster]

It was reported that Dr. John Grubor posted:

In the rest of the world, Trump is regarded as a joke. One European paper
notes that the great majority of his supporters are stupid & *ignorant*
people. And judging from some of the comments published about the paper's
article on him, quite a lot are illiterate too.

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[flatfish+++]

On Sat, 5 Mar 2016 22:53:13 -0000 (UTC), Dr. John Grubor wrote:

> flatfish+++ wrote:
>
>> It remains to be seen if those claiming they were ripped off have valid
>> claims and what percentage of students they comprise.
>
> There's three suits pending. One of them has 5,000 people involved. BBB
> gave the "university" a D- rating. The "university" was operating without
> New York State Education Department license.

BBB now says it fluctuated between A and D.
Operating without a license is a problem for sure.

Personally how stupid can people be?

Spending that kind of money and expecting Trump to teach them his
secrets?

Why not just spend $25.00 for one of his books?

>> Have you ever taken a look at Romney's history?
>> Look up Bain Capital.
>
> Oh, yeah. They bought up companies, bled them dry and then closed the
> doors. Thousands of people lost their jobs.
>
>> Ever look up how many people who were associated with the Clinton's met
>> with untimely deaths?
>
> http://www.snopes.com/Politics/clintons/bodycount.asp
>
> After Dubya was elected, a Bush Body Account list began circulating via
> email. It's just as bogus.

Bushes maybe. Although I don't trust that family either.
Clinton's has some traction to it.
Not all of them, but some.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.php#axzz424XqitS0

Kind of a strange set of coincidences.

>> How about Cruz's wife being associated with Goldman Sachs and he just
>> happens to get a low interest mortgage from them?
>
> Coincidence, my good fellow! And it wasn't a "loan" loan, it was, well,
> you know, something else.

Yep.
He's entrenched just like the rest of them.
Nothing unusual.

>> Kasich is probably the only honest one in the pack.
>
> There's no room in America for a truly honest politician. That dooms
> Kasich and Sanders, too. (RonB will chime in now about the "senile old
> Communist")

On that we agree!!
(I think we basically agree on everything regarding this topic).

[William Poaster]

It was reported that Dr. John Grubor posted:

> ronb wrote:
>
>> his cause is communism
>
> Nonsense.

Yup, it's utter bullshit. "ronb" doesn't know the difference between
socialism & communism. I have lived under a socialist government, & believe
me it was *nothing like* the communism being practised in the Soviet Union
at the time.

[flatfish+++]

On Sat, 5 Mar 2016 22:58:44 +0000, William Poaster wrote:

> It was reported that Dr. John Grubor posted:
>
>> flatfish+++ wrote:
>>
>>> the know how to run billion dollar companies efficiently.
>>
>> And how to have them file bankruptcy four times, screwing over his
>> employees, his creditors and of course, the taxpayers.
>>
>> He did a good job running a nonexistent university that siphoned people
>> dry, too.
>
> In the rest of the world, Trump is regarded as a joke. One European paper
> notes that the great majority of his supporters are stupid & *ignorant*
> people. And judging from some of the comments published about the paper's
> article on him, quite a lot are illiterate too.

I dunno.
I've watched the BBC covering UK Parliment in action and you lads put
on quite a show at various times.

Trump is a clown for sure but when put in perspective with the other
crooks (except for Kasich) what choice is there?

Hillary?

She is one step from being subpoenaed.

And that's not even counting all of her other shady deals.

She's a class A+ crook.

[flatfish+++]

On Sat, 5 Mar 2016 23:01:15 +0000, William Poaster wrote:

> It was reported that Dr. John Grubor posted:
>
>> ronb wrote:
>>
>>> his cause is communism
>>
>> Nonsense.
>
> Yup, it's utter bullshit. "ronb" doesn't know the difference between
> socialism & communism. I have lived under a socialist government, & believe
> me it was *nothing like* the communism being practised in the Soviet Union
> at the time.

Of course not.
However, wait till it all collapses under the weight of your new found
immigrant "friends" who are flooding into the UK.

It will make the problems Greece is going through look like a kid with
an empty piggy bank.

[Tattoo Vampire]

On Sat, 5 Mar 2016 17:27:26 -0500, flatfish+++ wrote:

> It doesn't take a genius to become a politician.
> Jesse Ventura
> Aronold Schwarzenegger
> Al Franken
> etc.

Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush...

[flatfish+++]

Pretty much.

[Steve Carroll]

Snit would welcome the rapist immigrants into his house.