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Carlos E.R.
Jan 30, 2019, 10:00:07 PM1/30/19
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Hi,
I had a look but I did not find what I'm seeking for.
I just would like an alarm clock app that besides playing some tune as
typical, also speaks up the current time. No telling the weather, the
news, phrases, etc: just the hour.
I have seen some that will not shut up till you solve a puzzle or a math
equation. Wow. The think would accidentally fall into a pail of water or
under a hammer something.
No, I just want it to politely tell me the hour, maybe when touching it,
and shut up.
Or an app that speaks a phrase at some defined time and shuts up...
--
Cheers, Carlos.
I had a look but I did not find what I'm seeking for.
I just would like an alarm clock app that besides playing some tune as
typical, also speaks up the current time. No telling the weather, the
news, phrases, etc: just the hour.
I have seen some that will not shut up till you solve a puzzle or a math
equation. Wow. The think would accidentally fall into a pail of water or
under a hammer something.
No, I just want it to politely tell me the hour, maybe when touching it,
and shut up.
Or an app that speaks a phrase at some defined time and shuts up...
--
Cheers, Carlos.
M. L.
Jan 31, 2019, 12:23:00 AM1/31/19
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> I just would like an alarm clock app that besides playing some tune as
> typical, also speaks up the current time. No telling the weather, the
> news, phrases, etc: just the hour.
>
> I have seen some that will not shut up till you solve a puzzle or a math
> equation. Wow. The think would accidentally fall into a pail of water or
> under a hammer something.
>
> No, I just want it to politely tell me the hour, maybe when touching it,
> and shut up.
>
> Or an app that speaks a phrase at some defined time and shuts up...
message either before or after the time is announced.
https://bit.ly/2sVku1E
Piet
Jan 31, 2019, 5:27:18 AM1/31/19
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M. L. wrote:
> Talking Alarm Clock by Mirolunapp allows the option of playing
> a typed message either before or after the time is announced.
> https://bit.ly/2sVku1E
Looks interesting, but why does it need all those permissions?
> Talking Alarm Clock by Mirolunapp allows the option of playing
> a typed message either before or after the time is announced.
> https://bit.ly/2sVku1E
-p
Carlos E.R.
Jan 31, 2019, 5:32:06 AM1/31/19
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--
Cheers, Carlos.
Carlos E.R.
Jan 31, 2019, 5:32:07 AM1/31/19
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--
Cheers, Carlos.
David Taylor
Jan 31, 2019, 5:53:09 AM1/31/19
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calls" (or words to that effect). Turns out that under Android 9 they
need that permission to read the hardware signature of the phone.
Yes, this app is hardware locked, making more work for both the
developer and the end-user when they change their phone. I don't know
why they can't just use the PlayStore....
--
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Carlos E.R.
Jan 31, 2019, 6:04:06 AM1/31/19
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--
Cheers, Carlos.
Joe Beanfish
Jan 31, 2019, 9:17:41 AM1/31/19
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 03:59:56 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> I just would like an alarm clock app that besides playing some tune as
> typical, also speaks up the current time. No telling the weather, the
> news, phrases, etc: just the hour.
I recall seeing a couple that did that when looking for a new alarm clock,
> I just would like an alarm clock app that besides playing some tune as
> typical, also speaks up the current time. No telling the weather, the
> news, phrases, etc: just the hour.
but iirc, they all did all the extra stuff you don't want too.
I'm genuinely curious about that option tho, not trying to be a snot...
Why do you want the time spoken? For me, the alarm going off means it's the
chosen time. Maybe I'm missing something in your, and others', use case?
micky
Jan 31, 2019, 9:26:51 AM1/31/19
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In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 03:59:56 +0100, "Carlos
didn't have a job and didn't need an alarm, just wanted to know the time
in the middle of the night, and she had to roll over and push a button
on the clock to get the time, and that was probably harder than opening
her eyes and looking at the clock.
Then I know I bought her a clock that shone the time on the ceiling.
But unless it was very dark out, it was hard to see what it said. Even
the moon or street lights were enough to cause a problem. Neither of
like to sleep with the curtains drawn.
and dont' get up in time. I had an appointment last week for a simple
medical procedure, but I stayed overnight the night before in a nearby
hotel. Worried I wouldn't get up, I brought my phone and a separate
alarm clock, then found the room had an alarm clock, the TV would turn
on at a set time, and I had my laptop with an alarm clock program. Five
of them. Ended up waking up 15 minutes before the first one went off.
I don't think the cheap ($10) clock radio that was in the room made any
noise. (The volume controlled the alarm sound too, I think). The TV only
turned on, so if it was on, there was no difference.
But the clock I brought and my laptop worked fine. The laptop program
works even if the computer is in hibernation, maybe even if it's off.
It's very good but it doesn't announce the actual time.
> The think would accidentally fall into a pail of water or
>under a hammer something.
>
>No, I just want it to politely tell me the hour, maybe when touching it,
>and shut up.
>
>Or an app that speaks a phrase at some defined time and shuts up...
This last one should be easier to find. You can re-record one of the
built-in alarm tones. Then, how to get it to shut up? I don't remember
that being an option for the program above. YOu could record a ringtone
that was an hour or two long, speak your phrase at the start, and then
be quiet for the rest of the time. That might work.
It has an option to start low and get louder. It's not installed on my
desktop so if you want the name..
E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>
>I had a look but I did not find what I'm seeking for.
>
>I just would like an alarm clock app that besides playing some tune as
>typical, also speaks up the current time. No telling the weather, the
>news, phrases, etc: just the hour.
I think I bought my mother a clock-radio like that once. But she
>Hi,
>
>
>I had a look but I did not find what I'm seeking for.
>
>I just would like an alarm clock app that besides playing some tune as
>typical, also speaks up the current time. No telling the weather, the
>news, phrases, etc: just the hour.
didn't have a job and didn't need an alarm, just wanted to know the time
in the middle of the night, and she had to roll over and push a button
on the clock to get the time, and that was probably harder than opening
her eyes and looking at the clock.
Then I know I bought her a clock that shone the time on the ceiling.
But unless it was very dark out, it was hard to see what it said. Even
the moon or street lights were enough to cause a problem. Neither of
like to sleep with the curtains drawn.
>
>I have seen some that will not shut up till you solve a puzzle or a math
>equation. Wow.
Double wow. I guess these are for those who push snooze over and over
>I have seen some that will not shut up till you solve a puzzle or a math
>equation. Wow.
and dont' get up in time. I had an appointment last week for a simple
medical procedure, but I stayed overnight the night before in a nearby
hotel. Worried I wouldn't get up, I brought my phone and a separate
alarm clock, then found the room had an alarm clock, the TV would turn
on at a set time, and I had my laptop with an alarm clock program. Five
of them. Ended up waking up 15 minutes before the first one went off.
I don't think the cheap ($10) clock radio that was in the room made any
noise. (The volume controlled the alarm sound too, I think). The TV only
turned on, so if it was on, there was no difference.
But the clock I brought and my laptop worked fine. The laptop program
works even if the computer is in hibernation, maybe even if it's off.
It's very good but it doesn't announce the actual time.
> The think would accidentally fall into a pail of water or
>under a hammer something.
>
>No, I just want it to politely tell me the hour, maybe when touching it,
>and shut up.
>
>Or an app that speaks a phrase at some defined time and shuts up...
built-in alarm tones. Then, how to get it to shut up? I don't remember
that being an option for the program above. YOu could record a ringtone
that was an hour or two long, speak your phrase at the start, and then
be quiet for the rest of the time. That might work.
It has an option to start low and get louder. It's not installed on my
desktop so if you want the name..
micky
Jan 31, 2019, 9:34:51 AM1/31/19
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In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 11:28:24 +0100, "Carlos
Yes, and it hasn't been updated since any of those reports.
Chris in Makati
Jan 31, 2019, 10:48:04 AM1/31/19
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 09:26:49 -0500, micky <NONONO...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:
>In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 03:59:56 +0100, "Carlos
>E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>
>>I had a look but I did not find what I'm seeking for.
>>
>>I just would like an alarm clock app that besides playing some tune as
>>typical, also speaks up the current time. No telling the weather, the
>>news, phrases, etc: just the hour.
>
>I think I bought my mother a clock-radio like that once. But she
>didn't have a job and didn't need an alarm, just wanted to know the time
>in the middle of the night, and she had to roll over and push a button
>on the clock to get the time, and that was probably harder than opening
>her eyes and looking at the clock.
>
>Then I know I bought her a clock that shone the time on the ceiling.
>But unless it was very dark out, it was hard to see what it said. Even
>the moon or street lights were enough to cause a problem. Neither of
>like to sleep with the curtains drawn.
That's the most frequent use I have for my Amazon Echo Dot. It sits by
my bed and when I wake up in the night I just say "Alexa... what's
the time?"
I find it the most effortless way to know the time in that situation.
No need to move a muscle, and no need to turn over to look at a clock.
wrote:
>In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 03:59:56 +0100, "Carlos
>E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>
>>I had a look but I did not find what I'm seeking for.
>>
>>I just would like an alarm clock app that besides playing some tune as
>>typical, also speaks up the current time. No telling the weather, the
>>news, phrases, etc: just the hour.
>
>I think I bought my mother a clock-radio like that once. But she
>didn't have a job and didn't need an alarm, just wanted to know the time
>in the middle of the night, and she had to roll over and push a button
>on the clock to get the time, and that was probably harder than opening
>her eyes and looking at the clock.
>
>Then I know I bought her a clock that shone the time on the ceiling.
>But unless it was very dark out, it was hard to see what it said. Even
>the moon or street lights were enough to cause a problem. Neither of
>like to sleep with the curtains drawn.
my bed and when I wake up in the night I just say "Alexa... what's
the time?"
I find it the most effortless way to know the time in that situation.
No need to move a muscle, and no need to turn over to look at a clock.
Carlos E.R.
Jan 31, 2019, 12:28:07 PM1/31/19
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tired". I may forget that, despite having slept only 5 hours I must get
up to do something important at a certain time, and that snoozing 4
times is too much.
So, tell my sleepy mind the time so it realizes :-)
Some people use difficult to switch off alarms. Or very loud. Those
instead turn me angry. Or alarmed.
So I use one that starts very softly and which doesn't wake me instantly
with a jolt. But at that moment my neurons are not working right and
have a mind of their own to continue sleeping. They need to be reminded
why they must give up.
I have seen other tools that are not alarm clocks, but reminders. There
may be hundreds of alarm clock apps!
--
Cheers, Carlos.
Carlos E.R.
Jan 31, 2019, 12:40:07 PM1/31/19
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On 31/01/2019 15.26, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 03:59:56 +0100, "Carlos
> E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> I had a look but I did not find what I'm seeking for.
>>
>> I just would like an alarm clock app that besides playing some tune as
>> typical, also speaks up the current time. No telling the weather, the
>> news, phrases, etc: just the hour.
>
> I think I bought my mother a clock-radio like that once. But she
> didn't have a job and didn't need an alarm, just wanted to know the time
> in the middle of the night, and she had to roll over and push a button
> on the clock to get the time, and that was probably harder than opening
> her eyes and looking at the clock.
>
> Then I know I bought her a clock that shone the time on the ceiling.
> But unless it was very dark out, it was hard to see what it said. Even
> the moon or street lights were enough to cause a problem. Neither of
> like to sleep with the curtains drawn.
I have seen those. I'd hate to put more cables.
> In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 03:59:56 +0100, "Carlos
> E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> I had a look but I did not find what I'm seeking for.
>>
>> I just would like an alarm clock app that besides playing some tune as
>> typical, also speaks up the current time. No telling the weather, the
>> news, phrases, etc: just the hour.
>
> I think I bought my mother a clock-radio like that once. But she
> didn't have a job and didn't need an alarm, just wanted to know the time
> in the middle of the night, and she had to roll over and push a button
> on the clock to get the time, and that was probably harder than opening
> her eyes and looking at the clock.
>
> Then I know I bought her a clock that shone the time on the ceiling.
> But unless it was very dark out, it was hard to see what it said. Even
> the moon or street lights were enough to cause a problem. Neither of
> like to sleep with the curtains drawn.
>> I have seen some that will not shut up till you solve a puzzle or a math
>> equation. Wow.
>
> Double wow. I guess these are for those who push snooze over and over
> and dont' get up in time. I had an appointment last week for a simple
> medical procedure, but I stayed overnight the night before in a nearby
> hotel. Worried I wouldn't get up, I brought my phone and a separate
> alarm clock, then found the room had an alarm clock, the TV would turn
> on at a set time, and I had my laptop with an alarm clock program. Five
> of them. Ended up waking up 15 minutes before the first one went off.
A strange new clock far from the bed also works, but makes me angry.
> I don't think the cheap ($10) clock radio that was in the room made any
> noise. (The volume controlled the alarm sound too, I think). The TV only
> turned on, so if it was on, there was no difference.
>
> But the clock I brought and my laptop worked fine. The laptop program
> works even if the computer is in hibernation, maybe even if it's off.
> It's very good but it doesn't announce the actual time.
the Non Volatile Ram Clock (the chip that runs a clock with a battery,
and also keeps the BIOS configuration) to wake up the computer at a
predefined time (there is an interrupt line for that). The computer
runs, the program realizes why, and does its programmed task.
>
>> The think would accidentally fall into a pail of water or
>> under a hammer something.
>>
>> No, I just want it to politely tell me the hour, maybe when touching it,
>> and shut up.
>>
>> Or an app that speaks a phrase at some defined time and shuts up...
>
> This last one should be easier to find. You can re-record one of the
> built-in alarm tones. Then, how to get it to shut up? I don't remember
> that being an option for the program above. YOu could record a ringtone
> that was an hour or two long, speak your phrase at the start, and then
> be quiet for the rest of the time. That might work.
>
> It has an option to start low and get louder. It's not installed on my
> desktop so if you want the name..
choose - likely candidates I looked at have bad comments. I got a bit
tired and thought of asking here, perhaps somebody uses one ;-)
Using the laptop... better not.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
Carlos E.R.
Jan 31, 2019, 2:44:06 PM1/31/19
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<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=wan.pclock>
The display is huge on my tablet, it assumes a phone and is rotated that
way, ignoring the actual positioning of the tablet.
I managed to setup an alarm, which is not trivial, too many options. It
says the message, then plays the music - thus I will not hear it. I can
use it only as secondary alarm.
If I add some text to speak, it doesn't say the time.
The translation to Spanish is terrible. I'd prefer English. I can't
understand the configuration with that horrible translation.
The buttons to close or snooze are way too close one to another, making
trivial to press the wrong one.
There is a language configuration for the TTS, it is set to
"español(USA)". It ignores my selecting "español(ESP)".
Finally, I found a setup option to change the display to English.
It has entries to say the time every hour, to add reminders, to be a
stopwatch...
Too complicated, too many options, and still doesn't have the right ones...
--
Cheers, Carlos.
micky
Jan 31, 2019, 8:24:29 PM1/31/19
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In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:27:27 +0100, "Carlos
floodlight that shone right on me.
It made me get up iirc but it didn't make me get good grades.
E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>I have seen other tools that are not alarm clocks, but reminders. There
>may be hundreds of alarm clock apps!
My second year in college I had a clock radio I used to turn on a
>
>I have seen other tools that are not alarm clocks, but reminders. There
>may be hundreds of alarm clock apps!
floodlight that shone right on me.
It made me get up iirc but it didn't make me get good grades.
micky
Jan 31, 2019, 8:25:48 PM1/31/19
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In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:27:27 +0100, "Carlos
E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>
E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>I have seen other tools that are not alarm clocks, but reminders. There
>may be hundreds of alarm clock apps!
>may be hundreds of alarm clock apps!
My second year in college I had a clock radio I used to turn on a
floodlight that shone right on me.
And it didn't bother my roommate, meaning a guy in the same room, like a
floodlight that shone right on me.
buzzer would. He slept on the other side of the room that was still
mostly dark.
arlen holder
Jan 31, 2019, 8:52:04 PM1/31/19
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 11:27:20 +0100, Piet wrote:
> Looks interesting, but why does it need all those permissions?
I tried to install it just now...
> Looks interesting, but why does it need all those permissions?
o Talking Alarm Clock, by Mirolunapp
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rosamaria.svegliaparlante>
It instantly asks for your "identity", "media", "microphone", "device id",
& "call information".
I didn't get past that as I agree with you that it's too much to ask for.
HOWEVER ...
There are some apps that ask _before_ you install (like this one did),
and there are some apps that ask _after_ you install.
What's the difference?
Nonetheless, the very _next_ "talking alarm clock" on the GP list was
o Speaking Alarm Clock, by Wansoft
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=wan.pclock>
I hit the "install" button, and it didn't ask for _anything_.
Then, after installing, I hit the "open" button...
And it _still_ didn't ask for anything.
I hit the "hourly interval" button.
Then the "hourly chime settings".
Then the "Type of alarm" was set by default to "Say time using TTS".
There are a ton of settings, so, I'll find out _what_ it does, over time.
Carlos E.R.
Jan 31, 2019, 9:12:07 PM1/31/19
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On 01/02/2019 02.52, arlen holder wrote:
...
> HOWEVER ...
>
> There are some apps that ask _before_ you install (like this one did),
> and there are some apps that ask _after_ you install.
>
> What's the difference?
The Android version for which it was designed.
>
> Nonetheless, the very _next_ "talking alarm clock" on the GP list was
> o Speaking Alarm Clock, by Wansoft
See my other post. That's the one I installed.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
...
> HOWEVER ...
>
> There are some apps that ask _before_ you install (like this one did),
> and there are some apps that ask _after_ you install.
>
> What's the difference?
>
> Nonetheless, the very _next_ "talking alarm clock" on the GP list was
> o Speaking Alarm Clock, by Wansoft
--
Cheers, Carlos.
Carlos E.R.
Jan 31, 2019, 9:16:06 PM1/31/19
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On 01/02/2019 02.24, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:27:27 +0100, "Carlos
> E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have seen other tools that are not alarm clocks, but reminders. There
>> may be hundreds of alarm clock apps!
>
> My second year in college I had a clock radio I used to turn on a
> floodlight that shone right on me.
I have that. I used a programmable mains switch that powers both a radio
> In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:27:27 +0100, "Carlos
> E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have seen other tools that are not alarm clocks, but reminders. There
>> may be hundreds of alarm clock apps!
>
> My second year in college I had a clock radio I used to turn on a
> floodlight that shone right on me.
and an halogen lamp that shines just on the pillow. I hate it, I wake up
with a jolt. I'm sure it is bad for my heart. And for my temper!
I haven't used it in a decade at least.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
arlen holder
Jan 31, 2019, 10:02:33 PM1/31/19
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 01:52:04 -0000 (UTC), arlen holder wrote:
> There are a ton of settings, so, I'll find out _what_ it does, over time.
The good news is that, at 6pm, it announced, verbally, "six pm", and then,
> There are a ton of settings, so, I'll find out _what_ it does, over time.
at 7pm, it annunced "seven pm".
Unless there's a reason to not like this one, I think it may fit the OP's
request for a clocks that says the time on the hour, every hour (it's
settable by day of week or whatever).
arlen holder
Jan 31, 2019, 10:47:12 PM1/31/19
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:43:58 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> I'm trying:
>
> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=wan.pclock>
That's the one I tried, where I _only_ tested that it speaks the time
> I'm trying:
>
> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=wan.pclock>
every hour as in "six oclock", "seven oclock", etc.
At least it didn't ask for _any_ permissions; but I agree, it has so many
freaking options (some of which are worthless, like colors), but it "seems"
to have "enough" options to "maybe" do what you might want it to do.
I prefer the zero-add open-source apps, so you might also check out:
<https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.simplemobiletools.clock/>
As an aside, I love *one-button* timer alarms, where, for example, when I
boil water, I press the "10-minute" button just once and that's it.
I repeat. You press the button and that's the last you worry about.
Ten minutes later (or five minutes or whatever) it rings.
Here's my ten-minute timer I really like:
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.terarisu.limited_timer010>
com.terarisu.limited_timer101, version 1.6
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.micchan.fiveminutetimer>
(My main complaint is that it has a GUI but you can completely ignore it.)
There's also a five-minute timer that I use less often.
com.micchan.fiveminutetimer, version 0.6
I just noticed that the "changemylife" outfit has a _lot_ of these on GP:
<https://play.google.com/store/search?q=changemylife&c=apps>
For example:
3 minute one-click timer
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.terarisu.limited_timer003>
15 minute one-click timer
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.terarisu.limited_timer015>
20 minute one-click timer
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.terarisu.limited_timer020>
30 minute one-click timer
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.terarisu.limited_timer030>
60 minute one click timer
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.terarisu.limited_timer060>
etc.
arlen holder
Jan 31, 2019, 11:48:20 PM1/31/19
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 03:47:12 -0000 (UTC), arlen holder wrote:
> I just noticed that the "changemylife" outfit has a _lot_ of these on GP:
> <https://play.google.com/store/search?q=changemylife&c=apps>
As an aside, I came up with a "use model" just now.
> I just noticed that the "changemylife" outfit has a _lot_ of these on GP:
> <https://play.google.com/store/search?q=changemylife&c=apps>
1. You download the 1 minute, 5 minute, 10 minute, etc. one click timers.
2. You set the 1 minute app to be in "standard" mode, while you leave all
the rest in "dash" mode.
3. When you want a one-click timer, you click any of the timers that are
set to "dash" mode - where a single click is all you need (which is the
whole point).
4. If you need to set a "specific" timer, then use the "1-minute timer",
which you set to "standard" mode, which means it's settable to any time.
micky
Feb 1, 2019, 7:43:10 AM2/1/19
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In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 1 Feb 2019 03:13:24 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
even without trying, even without doing.
First year in college I put the clock radio at the far side of my desk
which was at the foot of my bed. I'd wake up and dive over most of the
desk to get to the alarm. That was bad.
<robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>On 01/02/2019 02.24, micky wrote:
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:27:27 +0100, "Carlos
>> E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have seen other tools that are not alarm clocks, but reminders. There
>>> may be hundreds of alarm clock apps!
>>
>> My second year in college I had a clock radio I used to turn on a
>> floodlight that shone right on me.
>
>I have that. I used a programmable mains switch that powers both a radio
>and an halogen lamp that shines just on the pillow. I hate it, I wake up
>with a jolt. I'm sure it is bad for my heart. And for my temper!
>
>I haven't used it in a decade at least.
I didn't wake up with a jolt. You might not either now. People adapt,
>On 01/02/2019 02.24, micky wrote:
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:27:27 +0100, "Carlos
>> E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have seen other tools that are not alarm clocks, but reminders. There
>>> may be hundreds of alarm clock apps!
>>
>> My second year in college I had a clock radio I used to turn on a
>> floodlight that shone right on me.
>
>I have that. I used a programmable mains switch that powers both a radio
>and an halogen lamp that shines just on the pillow. I hate it, I wake up
>with a jolt. I'm sure it is bad for my heart. And for my temper!
>
>I haven't used it in a decade at least.
even without trying, even without doing.
First year in college I put the clock radio at the far side of my desk
which was at the foot of my bed. I'd wake up and dive over most of the
desk to get to the alarm. That was bad.
Carlos E.R.
Feb 1, 2019, 8:04:07 AM2/1/19
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On 01/02/2019 05.48, arlen holder wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 03:47:12 -0000 (UTC), arlen holder wrote:
>
>> I just noticed that the "changemylife" outfit has a _lot_ of these on GP:
>> <https://play.google.com/store/search?q=changemylife&c=apps>
>
> As an aside, I came up with a "use model" just now.
>
> 1. You download the 1 minute, 5 minute, 10 minute, etc. one click timers.
No, I prefer to type the time rather than have several apps.
> On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 03:47:12 -0000 (UTC), arlen holder wrote:
>
>> I just noticed that the "changemylife" outfit has a _lot_ of these on GP:
>> <https://play.google.com/store/search?q=changemylife&c=apps>
>
> As an aside, I came up with a "use model" just now.
>
> 1. You download the 1 minute, 5 minute, 10 minute, etc. one click timers.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
Carlos E.R.
Feb 1, 2019, 8:12:06 AM2/1/19
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On 01/02/2019 04.02, arlen holder wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 01:52:04 -0000 (UTC), arlen holder wrote:
>
>> There are a ton of settings, so, I'll find out _what_ it does, over time.
>
> The good news is that, at 6pm, it announced, verbally, "six pm", and then,
> at 7pm, it annunced "seven pm".
>
> Unless there's a reason to not like this one, I think it may fit the OP's
> request for a clocks that says the time on the hour, every hour (it's
> settable by day of week or whatever).
No, I already said why not: it speaks the time before the music. It
> On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 01:52:04 -0000 (UTC), arlen holder wrote:
>
>> There are a ton of settings, so, I'll find out _what_ it does, over time.
>
> The good news is that, at 6pm, it announced, verbally, "six pm", and then,
> at 7pm, it annunced "seven pm".
>
> Unless there's a reason to not like this one, I think it may fit the OP's
> request for a clocks that says the time on the hour, every hour (it's
> settable by day of week or whatever).
speaks the hour at a loud volume, then starts the music at a very low
volume.
No, I want the speech after the music. Maybe 10 seconds after, or maybe
after pressing the button.
Also, adding a text to be read disables speaking the time. Why not both?
Then the buttons to snooze or stop are too close one to other and in the
same colour. I have to wake up a bit and read them! I may press stop
instead of snooze by mistake, then go back to sleep "knowing" that it
will ring again, but it doesn't.
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Cheers, Carlos.
Joe Beanfish
Feb 1, 2019, 9:14:18 AM2/1/19
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it set to allow only 3 snoozes.
micky
Feb 1, 2019, 9:26:36 AM2/1/19
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In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 1 Feb 2019 14:09:44 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
You should send your criticism to the author. I've done that with
success one time, with out a reply the other. But one out of two is not
bad.
success one time, with out a reply the other. But one out of two is not
bad.
Carlos E.R.
Feb 1, 2019, 12:44:06 PM2/1/19
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On 01/02/2019 15.14, Joe Beanfish wrote:
> Ah, my alarm starts up gently and gets progressively louder. I also have
> it set to allow only 3 snoozes.
Ah, but what happens the third time? How does an sleepy mind know it is
> Ah, my alarm starts up gently and gets progressively louder. I also have
> it set to allow only 3 snoozes.
the third time? You hit snooze, and it doesn't ring again, same as if
you hit stop...
The third time the alarm must be different in some way. Like hitting
snooze and it speaking some refusal.
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Cheers, Carlos.
Carlos E.R.
Feb 1, 2019, 12:44:06 PM2/1/19
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Cheers, Carlos.
Frank Slootweg
Feb 1, 2019, 4:09:56 PM2/1/19
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You may want to have a look at so called 'smart alarm' apps. The
better of such apps give you a window of time - say 30 minutes - in
which they (try to) pick the time when your sleep is the lightest, i.e.
nearly awake. At that ideal time, they try to wake you (with snooze
option). If that fails, they often have a last-resort time at which they
wake you up 'with a bang'.
One such app is 'Sleep as Android' [1], but that's probably an overkill,
because it does much, much, more than just the smart alarm (and it's a
trial/paid app, some 6 Euro).
N.B. Of course the better 'smart alarm' apps have to measure (using
you phone's accelerometer) your sleep pattern, instead of just guessing
it.
And of course these 'smart alarm' apps do not neccessarily speak the
time, but Sleep as Android has Tasker (or equivalent) and IFTTT
integration, so - with other apps/services - anything is possible. (for
example start the heater of your BMW! :-))
HTH.
[1] <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid.sleep>
Carlos E.R.
Feb 1, 2019, 9:24:05 PM2/1/19
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On 01/02/2019 22.09, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Carlos E.R. <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 01/02/2019 02.24, micky wrote:
>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:27:27 +0100, "Carlos
>>> E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen other tools that are not alarm clocks, but reminders. There
>>>> may be hundreds of alarm clock apps!
>>>
>>> My second year in college I had a clock radio I used to turn on a
>>> floodlight that shone right on me.
>>
>> I have that. I used a programmable mains switch that powers both a radio
>> and an halogen lamp that shines just on the pillow. I hate it, I wake up
>> with a jolt. I'm sure it is bad for my heart. And for my temper!
>>
>> I haven't used it in a decade at least.
>
> About (not) waking up with a jolt:
>
> You may want to have a look at so called 'smart alarm' apps. The
> better of such apps give you a window of time - say 30 minutes - in
> which they (try to) pick the time when your sleep is the lightest, i.e.
> nearly awake. At that ideal time, they try to wake you (with snooze
> option). If that fails, they often have a last-resort time at which they
> wake you up 'with a bang'.
Interesting idea.
> Carlos E.R. <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 01/02/2019 02.24, micky wrote:
>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:27:27 +0100, "Carlos
>>> E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen other tools that are not alarm clocks, but reminders. There
>>>> may be hundreds of alarm clock apps!
>>>
>>> My second year in college I had a clock radio I used to turn on a
>>> floodlight that shone right on me.
>>
>> I have that. I used a programmable mains switch that powers both a radio
>> and an halogen lamp that shines just on the pillow. I hate it, I wake up
>> with a jolt. I'm sure it is bad for my heart. And for my temper!
>>
>> I haven't used it in a decade at least.
>
> About (not) waking up with a jolt:
>
> You may want to have a look at so called 'smart alarm' apps. The
> better of such apps give you a window of time - say 30 minutes - in
> which they (try to) pick the time when your sleep is the lightest, i.e.
> nearly awake. At that ideal time, they try to wake you (with snooze
> option). If that fails, they often have a last-resort time at which they
> wake you up 'with a bang'.
I find an alarm that starts very softly and progressively over half a
minute increases the volume to be a suitable compromise for me. If I'm
dreaming the sound integrates somehow into the dream, till the mind
recognizes it and awakes, smoothly.
>
> One such app is 'Sleep as Android' [1], but that's probably an overkill,
> because it does much, much, more than just the smart alarm (and it's a
> trial/paid app, some 6 Euro).
>
> N.B. Of course the better 'smart alarm' apps have to measure (using
> you phone's accelerometer) your sleep pattern, instead of just guessing
> it.
report, saying if you slept enough or not. Some wake you up when it is
enough.
>
> And of course these 'smart alarm' apps do not neccessarily speak the
> time, but Sleep as Android has Tasker (or equivalent) and IFTTT
> integration, so - with other apps/services - anything is possible. (for
> example start the heater of your BMW! :-))
>
> HTH.
>
> [1] <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid.sleep>
Ah, tasker... that might be another thing to try.
> And of course these 'smart alarm' apps do not neccessarily speak the
> time, but Sleep as Android has Tasker (or equivalent) and IFTTT
> integration, so - with other apps/services - anything is possible. (for
> example start the heater of your BMW! :-))
>
> HTH.
>
> [1] <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid.sleep>
Thanks for the idea, a smart alarm may be something to try.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
arlen holder
Feb 2, 2019, 3:02:18 PM2/2/19
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 14:03:29 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> No, I prefer to type the time rather than have several apps.
I understand.
> No, I prefer to type the time rather than have several apps.
My preference is "fire & forget" for single-action things like a timer.
It's the same for when I add to my "todo" list.
o I want single-purpose apps to be as few steps as humanly possible.
For example, my ideal todolist addition would be you simply press a button
... up pops the gui ... you speak ... when you're done speaking, it shuts
down and saves that item to your todo list.
Same with these timed alarms.
o I press once on the 5-minute button, and that's it for what I need to do.
Others may think differently, I agree.
FMurtz
Feb 3, 2019, 3:34:45 AM2/3/19
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arlen holder wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 11:27:20 +0100, Piet wrote:
>
>> Looks interesting, but why does it need all those permissions?
>
> I tried to install it just now...
> o Talking Alarm Clock, by Mirolunapp
> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rosamaria.svegliaparlante>
>
> It instantly asks for your "identity", "media", "microphone", "device id",
> & "call information".
>
> I didn't get past that as I agree with you that it's too much to ask for.
>
> HOWEVER ...
>
> There are some apps that ask _before_ you install (like this one did),
> and there are some apps that ask _after_ you install.
>
> What's the difference?
>
> Nonetheless, the very _next_ "talking alarm clock" on the GP list was
> o Speaking Alarm Clock, by Wansoft
> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=wan.pclock>
>
> I hit the "install" button, and it didn't ask for _anything_.
> Then, after installing, I hit the "open" button...
> And it _still_ didn't ask for anything.
Because they already know all your info and has permission to do almost
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 11:27:20 +0100, Piet wrote:
>
>> Looks interesting, but why does it need all those permissions?
>
> I tried to install it just now...
> o Talking Alarm Clock, by Mirolunapp
> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rosamaria.svegliaparlante>
>
> It instantly asks for your "identity", "media", "microphone", "device id",
> & "call information".
>
> I didn't get past that as I agree with you that it's too much to ask for.
>
> HOWEVER ...
>
> There are some apps that ask _before_ you install (like this one did),
> and there are some apps that ask _after_ you install.
>
> What's the difference?
>
> Nonetheless, the very _next_ "talking alarm clock" on the GP list was
> o Speaking Alarm Clock, by Wansoft
> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=wan.pclock>
>
> I hit the "install" button, and it didn't ask for _anything_.
> Then, after installing, I hit the "open" button...
> And it _still_ didn't ask for anything.
anything?
>
> I hit the "hourly interval" button.
> Then the "hourly chime settings".
> Then the "Type of alarm" was set by default to "Say time using TTS".
>
> There are a ton of settings, so, I'll find out _what_ it does, over time.
>
anything?
arlen holder
Feb 3, 2019, 10:16:56 AM2/3/19
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On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 19:34:34 +1100, FMurtz wrote:
> Because they already know all your info and has permission to do almost
> anything?
Hi FMurtz,
> Because they already know all your info and has permission to do almost
> anything?
Are you _sure_ that answer you gave has _any_ facts behind it?
While the _vast_ majority of my apps don't ask for _any_ permissions,
o Some apps ask for permission up front, while
o Other apps ask for permission only upon first execution.
The suggestion from (I think it was Carlos?) that the difference is due to
o Some apps user an "older" permission-request method, while
o Other apps use the "newer" permission-request style
seems to make more sense than your suggestion FMurtz.
It is a valid question, outside of "speaking alarm clocks", though,
of _what_ an app _inherently_ knows about us.
I'll post a separate thread on that topic alone as it's off topic here.
Joe Beanfish
Feb 4, 2019, 9:15:39 AM2/4/19
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want it quiet. The idea being "stop snoozing and get up dummy" :)
Carlos E.R.
Feb 4, 2019, 10:08:06 AM2/4/19
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--
Cheers, Carlos.
Joe Beanfish
Feb 5, 2019, 10:31:07 AM2/5/19
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Smart Alarm Free (Alarm Clock) by TanyuSoft
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.tanyu.SmartAlarmFree
With ads
I set the Snooze button to large the Dismiss button to normal.
Regardless of size, the Dismiss button requires a long press so
accidental taps won't kill the alarm.
It has an optional ramp up of the alarm volume.
Life Time Alarm Clock by 8 bit Immersiv
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mcc.alarmclocklifetime
No ads, but optional premium features that I've not purchased
The snooze button is large. To kill the alarm you have to swipe
across a widget so no accidental kills.
It allows a separate pre-alarm tone with ramp up of volume.
The UI is very excellent IMO. Most others are fairly clunky.
The former I'm currently using because the latter had some ruckus with
the play store and was removed. It came back recently and I've not had
a chance to migrate back to it yet.
M. L.
Feb 6, 2019, 12:10:31 PM2/6/19
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> Life Time Alarm Clock by 8 bit Immersiv
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mcc.alarmclocklifetime
> No ads,
> the play store and was removed. It came back recently....
Looks like it came back with ads.
Joe Beanfish
Feb 7, 2019, 9:23:14 AM2/7/19
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nor when alarms go off. The other alarm I mentioned certainly
has ads.
M. L.
Feb 8, 2019, 10:08:22 PM2/8/19
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>>> Life Time Alarm Clock by 8 bit Immersiv
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mcc.alarmclocklifetime
>>
>>> No ads,
>>
>>> ...had some ruckus with
>>> the play store and was removed. It came back recently....
>>
>> Looks like it came back with ads.
>
> Oh? Where are you seeing ads?
header section of the Play store page for Life Time Alarm Clock.
Joe Beanfish
Feb 12, 2019, 10:34:00 AM2/12/19
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several years ago to go ad free (for life apparently). Pretty good deal IMO.
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