EuroForth 2020 Call for papers

[Anton Ertl]

EuroForth 2020 will be held on September 4-6 in Rome, Italy, or online
as a video conference. It will be preceded by the Forth200x meeting
on September 2-4.

The deadline for the academic stream (refereed) papers is June 30. So
now is the time to write up your research to have it ready by the
deadline. For industrial (non-refereed) papers the deadline is August
25.

The call for papers including submission instructions can be found on
<http://www.euroforth.org/ef20/cfp.html>. The conference home page
(including registration) is: <http://euro.theforth.net/2020>

All dates known up to now:

Now: Registration open
June 30: Deadline for draft papers (academic stream)
July 20: Decision Rome or online
July 31: Notification of acceptance of academic stream papers
August 3: In case of Rome: Payment must have arrived at the organizer
August 25: Deadline for camera-ready paper submission
September 2-4: Forth200x meeting
September 4-6: EuroForth 2020 conference

- anton
--
M. Anton Ertl http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/home.html
comp.lang.forth FAQs: http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/faq/toc.html
New standard: http://www.forth200x.org/forth200x.html
EuroForth 2020: https://euro.theforth.net/2020

[menti...@gmail.com]

Any Forther wishing to submit a paper about MindForth AI -- such as http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=307824.307853 by Dr. Paul Frenger -- should please be advised that here is an opportunity to demonstrate the latest claim about MindForth, namely that it and the other Mentifex AI Minds are guaranteed to think at some minimal level. See

https://old.reddit.com/r/mentifex
https://www.mail-archive.com/a...@agi.topicbox.com/msg05305.html
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.ai.philosophy/cDKIneK0g2Y/LBRDkHx8BAAJ
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.javascript/xbRzUDuPyXQ/tBSVXvObAgAJ

for statements of the claim of an AI guaranteed to think.

If EuroForth 2020 is actually held in Rome, Italy, it may be interesting and entertaining to demonstrate the related JavaScript AI program

http://ai.neocities.org/Abracadabra.html -- Mens Latina AI in Latin

which is guaranteed to think and reason in ancient Latin, the language of Rome. Rumor has it that at the Vatican in Rome there is an Automated Teller Machine (ATM) that operates in Latin.

-ATM

[Robert L.]

On 6/12/2020, menti...@gmail.com wrote:

> Any Forther wishing to submit a paper about MindForth AI

Don't write a paper. Just let MindForth AI write it.

--
[I]f you factor in all the measures of merit ... the Jewish students
were _only_ 14 times as likely to get into Harvard or other elite
schools as their White counterparts with the same merit.
archive.org/details/nolies

[menti...@gmail.com]

[2020-06-13 Sat@SPB] Yesterday I posted an AI comment in the Latin subReddit and it seemed like I received at least a hundred pertinent page-views from all over the world. It was fortunate that I had recently initiated the http://ai.neocities.org/Lathink.html webpage.

My AI project has gone so many decades without acknowledged success, that I tend to yield to the idea that there will never be such success. My efforts flag and falter under such discouragement. Oftentimes, however, I remind myself that I have indeed created basic artificial intelligence.

My recent memetic ploy of stating that my AI Minds are guaranteed to think is an effort to get Netizens to focus much more attention than usual on the functionality of the AI Minds. By guaranteeing that my AI thinks, I am laying down a challenge for some one to disprove my claim of a thinking AI.

There may come a flash of publicity if some journalist or website writes a treatment or an article about my AI guaranteed to think. An author could run the AI through its paces and state whether or not real thinking seems to be going on.

Another publicity breakthrough could occur if the worldwide classical Latin community adopts my Latin AI as a serious project. People could write scholarly papers about my Latin AI or they could try to develop the software further.

On any given day my AI project could burst into sudden, widespread notoriety. For instance, if John Markoff were to write about my AI in the New York Times, millions more people would become aware of it.

I am a little surprised that there has not been a backlash of indignant Netizens angrily denouncing my guaranteed AI as a totally false assertion. If the software did not perform at all, Mentifex-bashers would probably be jumping all over it. My detractors are perhsps afraid to look bad if they try to discredit my AI and they are subsequently proven wrong.

So the success or failure of my lifelong AI project is still very much up in the air.

http://old.reddit.com/r/latin/comments/h7isse/how_far_gone_are_you_oc/fullp9a

http://ai.neocities.org/Ghost.html

[NN]

I was wondering, is this open to those not in academia or in industry ?

If its held online as a video conference, will it be open to forthers here or just for the attendees.

[Anton Ertl]

NN <novembe...@gmail.com> writes:
>I was wondering, is this open to those not in academia or in industry ?

Certainly.

>If its held online as a video conference, will it be open to forthers here or just for the attendees.

The organizer (Gerald Wodni) will decide how the online conference
will be organized if it comes to that, and he probably will only
decide these things after deciding Rome/online.

Video conference systems have limits. The online Forth-Tagung was
streamed live somewhere, so more people could watch it live. I don't
remember if there was a feedback channel for the watchers.

[hughag...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 7:37:08 AM UTC-7, Anton Ertl wrote:
> NN <novembe...@gmail.com> writes:
> >I was wondering, is this open to those not in academia or in industry ?
>
> Certainly.

Last year I said this:

On Thursday, June 13, 2019 at 6:33:42 AM UTC-7, hughag...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 10:11:21 AM UTC-7, Anton Ertl wrote:
> > EuroForth 2019 will be held...
>
> If anybody in the real world is going to take EuroForth seriously,
> the following rules need to be made and enforced:
>
> 1.) No paper will be accepted if there is no proof-of-concept
> code accompanying it. If the author is too incompetent to write
> code that works, then his or her paper is not acceptable.
> Vague speculation about what might work does not constitute design.
>
> 2.) No paper will be accepted if it is just an attack piece that
> denounces existing code. This is not a positive contribution.
> EuroForth should be a forum for presenting new designs, not attacking
> other people's designs and code libraries.
>
> At this time, because these rules are not in place, and most papers
> would not be in compliance with these rules, EuroForth lacks
> credibility in the real world. So far, what I have seen is that
> the worst violators of these rules are Forth-200x committee members.
> They are just dumb and mean --- they are not making a positive
> contribution to Forth --- they have a political axe to grind.
> Note that Anton Ertl is the referee for the "academic" papers,
> yet he writes papers himself that grossly violate the above rules.

That didn't work out very well last year --- try again!