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Rick C. Hodgin
Nov 22, 2017, 5:10:51 AM11/22/17
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Eternity begins when we leave this world. For some that means
joy. For other it means terror.
All of us will spend eternity somewhere. Unless your sin has
been forgiven, for you it will be in the lake of fire writhing
in agony and torment unending. It will consume your existence
and overrun you completely. You'll never have another free
thought, a moment of contemplation, a some real consideration,
but the pain and agony and torture will consume everything about
you.
That is the end for all who reject the truth. Who refuse to
acknowledge their sin, and who refuse to acknowledge they are
in need of a savior.
What Jesus offers you is eternity in the paradise of Heaven,
face-to-face with God in a place He's prepared for you, in an
immortal body. God is offering to give you the Kingdom.
Total forgiveness for your sin is found only in Him. He is
willing to completely restore you to Himself in eternity.
It is even His good pleasure to give you the Kingdom. He will
do this for all who will hear the truth, who will acknowledge
their own sin, and ask Him to forgive them. There will be no
one who comes to Him who is cut off or cast out. The only souls
who will be cut off are those who who, by their hard heart, refuse
to accept Him, to come to Him and ask forgiveness. Such people
totally deny the truth, and Hell was created to hold all manner
of falseness in a fully and completely self-contained space. All
who enter in to Hell will never return, because they are a cancer
upon truth, serving only the needs of falseness ... which, like
cancer, continue to eat away at all that is good until it is
perverted and destroyed, and that God will not abide in His
Kingdom, in eternity in His House.
-----
Jesus has gone ahead and prepared a place for you. It is a place
in Heaven. It is beautiful and glorious. He's put your name on
it and reserved it for you. He's done this so you can go there
and be with Him where He is in all things forever. You've been
provided for. Well taken care of. Looked after. And it will
continue to go on. No more struggling. No more heartache or
trials or pains or sufferings. The old ways will have passed in
Heaven, having been resigned only to our existence here.
God wants us thriving and living and shining and blossoming and
doing great and wonderful things worthy of His creation in us.
He wants more than anything to forgive us and restore us to this
purposeful intent He had for us before sin entered in to this
world and your life and destroyed everything.
-----
All you have to do is acknowledge that you're a sinner, and ask
Him to forgive you, and believe in your heart that He is capable
of doing this. How is it possible? It is logical. Jesus went
to the cross sinless. God the Father supernaturally reached
across all time and put the sin of all who would believe on the
name of Jesus onto Him at the cross.
Jesus died here on Earth in the body with our sin charged to Him.
This made Him pay for sin in our place. He became our sacrifice,
so that God would pour out the punishment He demands for sin upon
His own Son, rather than upon us. In so doing, He set us free
from judgment! Jesus gets judged in our place, and we are released
from God's judgment and are not judged, but are gifted the fullness
of Christ's own righteousness. We are made spotless and perfect by
what Jesus did at the cross. Jesus is consumed of God, and we are
set free.
Please note: Jesus did this willingly! It was His choice to do
this for us because He loves us and wants us to be with Him. But,
He wants us to recognize our place. We are not taking advantage of
Him by receiving His offering. It is literally THE reason He came
into the world ... to save that which was lost (us) to sin. But it
comes with real knowledge, a real acknowledgement of who He is and
who we are not.
This pastor does an excellent job of describing this here (begins
at 34:56, at 35:50, at 38:18, at 40:13, at 40:55. I would advise
you to listen to it. What He teaches here are God's words of
life given so that we might be redeemed.
God doesn't want us tricked or fooled or deceived by the devil.
He wants us to follow Him and to know the truth. He wants us to
overcome the devil by our faith in Him, and by Him saving us,
and giving us the new nature which comes with salvation, that
thing which is achievable no other way, but only by His completed
work at the cross:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7_x1tWGfy0&t=34m56s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7_x1tWGfy0&t=35m50s
"In 2 Cor 5, Jesus goes from the essence of God to the
essence of sin. How far apart is that? From the
essence of God to the essence of sin? That's the
love of God. 2 Corinthians 5:17+ to the end of the
chapter."
"What's going on here? That we might be made the
righteousness of God in Him. He made Him to be sin,
not a sinner, but sin. It's why God turned His back
on Him. And [Jesus] cried from the cross, 'My God,
My God, why hast Thou forsaken me?' In plainer words,
from the highest possible place, the essence of God,
to the lowest possible place on this Earth. You can't
get any lower than that. When He died on the cross,
He died there as the essence of sin. 'Father, into
thy hands I commend my spirit' [Jesus said]. That's a
wonderful thing, because it tells me that He who spared
not His only Son, who offered Him up for us all..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7_x1tWGfy0&t=38m18s
The God of the Second Chance. He instructs you. He
will chasten you go guide you as a good father would
his son whom he loves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7_x1tWGfy0&t=40m13s
He'll chasten you. He'll forgive you. He'll love you.
He'll fellowship with you. He'll walk with you. He'll
commune with you. You're His son/daughter. And all He
wants you to do is acknowledge that, come back to Him
and say, "Lord I need your strength, there's a sin that
besets me, there's a sin I'm having a hard time getting
a victory over. I need you Lord, I need your strength.
I need your forgiveness." And it'll come. It'll come.
It'll come from a gracious heart. He's a longsuffering
God. And you'll learn after years of that ... it'll
build your faith. It will strengthen your walk with God.
-----
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7_x1tWGfy0&t=40m55s
"You'll begin to understand the graciousness of one who
allowed sin to come into the universe to begin with.
You gotta get that nailed down in your soul. He did
not react to the entrance of sin. Known unto God are
all of His works. And then you begin to understand
something about the one who allowed it to happen in the
beginning so that He would teach an unforgettable lesson
to His creation, because they would learn something about
God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost that they
could never learn any other way. And when the day comes
that you ever stand in His presence, you'll jump up and
down and shout and glorify God and say 'Hallelujah!
Hallelujah! Hallelujah! I don't deserve to be here,
but You've been good to me. Hallelujah to God!'
Hallelujah! He's been a good God. You'll sing with the
redeemed and you'll shout and rejoice because you know
the one that's sitting on that Throne. And He is worthy!
He's worthy of our praise and our adoration. Because we
know Him. He's proven Himself to us. He's lifted us
from the dunghill to very Palace of the King."
-----
Ask Jesus to forgive your sin today, and enter in to eternity
as a living soul. Leave the fate of the judged and condemned.
There will be no returning from that final judgment, and that
final condemnation to the lake of fire where every soul cast
in will spend a conscious eternity in writhing agony and utter
torment because they totally rejected the truth. It is the
sufficient "prison" God created for an eternal being made in
the image and likeness of God, with the real power and authority
He affords us by our very design and nature in His creation.
On this Earth a lion is a fierce creation capable of much because
of how he's put together. We are made in the image and likeness
of God and we are powerful creations. And to constrain those in
this children-of-God form, nothing less than Hell would suffice,
and what He created as Hell is wholly sufficient to keep all evil,
all sin, all falseness out of His universe forever. Nothing that
enters in to the lake of fire will ever escape. No not ever. It
is the ongoing death that never ebbs, but is the full containment
for eternal beings who cannot die, in a place where they can do no
harm to the rest of God's creation.
-----
This is your salvation in Jesus Christ. He is saving from that
end. Jesus is offering you everything for free. All you have to
do is ask Him and you can be released from judgment, released from
condemnation and live forever in an angel-like body, with unlimited
resources, under the ongoing tutelage of an infinite God who has so
many more things to teach us in this vast universe He created ...
we've only scratched the surface of the surface here in this world
and in our Earthly understanding. What remains is infinite, because
the God who created it is infinite.
-----
Do not enter into judgment in eternity over matters of selfish and
foolish pride, or over a particular lust over some thing here in
this world that you don't want to give up. What is coming for us
in eternity is so much better than what we have today that they
could not even be weighted on the same scale.
Choose the way of truth, and of life. Cast off the devil's shiny
trinkets of traps and snares. Say no to his apparent nice things
which are only veils for death. Ask Jesus to forgive your sin and
feel the weight of God's eternal judgment come off of you in a way
that you can feel. And feel the new life enter in to your soul in
a way that you can feel. And feel His free gift of eternity assert
itself within your soul in a way that you can feel. What He gives
you by way of a full pardon ... it is tangible, and it's more than
a prisoner would feel when he's let go from prison, because you are
that prisoner, and you'll be let go from an eternal prison
I love you so much that I'm willing to teach you all of this at
the expense it will cost me ... but even with my loss to you in
the cases where there is loss, it is to my greater gain for those
who do hear. And know this: Jesus loves you far more than I do
because He is Love literally, and He is capable of loving you in
a full, complete, and eternal way even right now.
Ask Him to forgive your sin. Do it today. Right now. This very
second. Choose eternity. Choose life. Choose truth. And make
the choice for you, your family, your friends, your co-workers.
Lead them all to this same glorious end of living in the paradise
of Heaven with God in a body like the angels, with a home in a
place where even the streets are paved with gold, and how much
more so the beautiful things?
Give yourself permission to be set free from your sin. Give
yourself permission to come to Jesus and ask Him to forgive you.
Give yourself permission to receive this, His greatest gift for
you. And act on that decision right now.
Love you,
Rick C. Hodgin
joy. For other it means terror.
All of us will spend eternity somewhere. Unless your sin has
been forgiven, for you it will be in the lake of fire writhing
in agony and torment unending. It will consume your existence
and overrun you completely. You'll never have another free
thought, a moment of contemplation, a some real consideration,
but the pain and agony and torture will consume everything about
you.
That is the end for all who reject the truth. Who refuse to
acknowledge their sin, and who refuse to acknowledge they are
in need of a savior.
What Jesus offers you is eternity in the paradise of Heaven,
face-to-face with God in a place He's prepared for you, in an
immortal body. God is offering to give you the Kingdom.
Total forgiveness for your sin is found only in Him. He is
willing to completely restore you to Himself in eternity.
It is even His good pleasure to give you the Kingdom. He will
do this for all who will hear the truth, who will acknowledge
their own sin, and ask Him to forgive them. There will be no
one who comes to Him who is cut off or cast out. The only souls
who will be cut off are those who who, by their hard heart, refuse
to accept Him, to come to Him and ask forgiveness. Such people
totally deny the truth, and Hell was created to hold all manner
of falseness in a fully and completely self-contained space. All
who enter in to Hell will never return, because they are a cancer
upon truth, serving only the needs of falseness ... which, like
cancer, continue to eat away at all that is good until it is
perverted and destroyed, and that God will not abide in His
Kingdom, in eternity in His House.
-----
Jesus has gone ahead and prepared a place for you. It is a place
in Heaven. It is beautiful and glorious. He's put your name on
it and reserved it for you. He's done this so you can go there
and be with Him where He is in all things forever. You've been
provided for. Well taken care of. Looked after. And it will
continue to go on. No more struggling. No more heartache or
trials or pains or sufferings. The old ways will have passed in
Heaven, having been resigned only to our existence here.
God wants us thriving and living and shining and blossoming and
doing great and wonderful things worthy of His creation in us.
He wants more than anything to forgive us and restore us to this
purposeful intent He had for us before sin entered in to this
world and your life and destroyed everything.
-----
All you have to do is acknowledge that you're a sinner, and ask
Him to forgive you, and believe in your heart that He is capable
of doing this. How is it possible? It is logical. Jesus went
to the cross sinless. God the Father supernaturally reached
across all time and put the sin of all who would believe on the
name of Jesus onto Him at the cross.
Jesus died here on Earth in the body with our sin charged to Him.
This made Him pay for sin in our place. He became our sacrifice,
so that God would pour out the punishment He demands for sin upon
His own Son, rather than upon us. In so doing, He set us free
from judgment! Jesus gets judged in our place, and we are released
from God's judgment and are not judged, but are gifted the fullness
of Christ's own righteousness. We are made spotless and perfect by
what Jesus did at the cross. Jesus is consumed of God, and we are
set free.
Please note: Jesus did this willingly! It was His choice to do
this for us because He loves us and wants us to be with Him. But,
He wants us to recognize our place. We are not taking advantage of
Him by receiving His offering. It is literally THE reason He came
into the world ... to save that which was lost (us) to sin. But it
comes with real knowledge, a real acknowledgement of who He is and
who we are not.
This pastor does an excellent job of describing this here (begins
at 34:56, at 35:50, at 38:18, at 40:13, at 40:55. I would advise
you to listen to it. What He teaches here are God's words of
life given so that we might be redeemed.
God doesn't want us tricked or fooled or deceived by the devil.
He wants us to follow Him and to know the truth. He wants us to
overcome the devil by our faith in Him, and by Him saving us,
and giving us the new nature which comes with salvation, that
thing which is achievable no other way, but only by His completed
work at the cross:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7_x1tWGfy0&t=34m56s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7_x1tWGfy0&t=35m50s
"In 2 Cor 5, Jesus goes from the essence of God to the
essence of sin. How far apart is that? From the
essence of God to the essence of sin? That's the
love of God. 2 Corinthians 5:17+ to the end of the
chapter."
"What's going on here? That we might be made the
righteousness of God in Him. He made Him to be sin,
not a sinner, but sin. It's why God turned His back
on Him. And [Jesus] cried from the cross, 'My God,
My God, why hast Thou forsaken me?' In plainer words,
from the highest possible place, the essence of God,
to the lowest possible place on this Earth. You can't
get any lower than that. When He died on the cross,
He died there as the essence of sin. 'Father, into
thy hands I commend my spirit' [Jesus said]. That's a
wonderful thing, because it tells me that He who spared
not His only Son, who offered Him up for us all..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7_x1tWGfy0&t=38m18s
The God of the Second Chance. He instructs you. He
will chasten you go guide you as a good father would
his son whom he loves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7_x1tWGfy0&t=40m13s
He'll chasten you. He'll forgive you. He'll love you.
He'll fellowship with you. He'll walk with you. He'll
commune with you. You're His son/daughter. And all He
wants you to do is acknowledge that, come back to Him
and say, "Lord I need your strength, there's a sin that
besets me, there's a sin I'm having a hard time getting
a victory over. I need you Lord, I need your strength.
I need your forgiveness." And it'll come. It'll come.
It'll come from a gracious heart. He's a longsuffering
God. And you'll learn after years of that ... it'll
build your faith. It will strengthen your walk with God.
-----
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7_x1tWGfy0&t=40m55s
"You'll begin to understand the graciousness of one who
allowed sin to come into the universe to begin with.
You gotta get that nailed down in your soul. He did
not react to the entrance of sin. Known unto God are
all of His works. And then you begin to understand
something about the one who allowed it to happen in the
beginning so that He would teach an unforgettable lesson
to His creation, because they would learn something about
God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost that they
could never learn any other way. And when the day comes
that you ever stand in His presence, you'll jump up and
down and shout and glorify God and say 'Hallelujah!
Hallelujah! Hallelujah! I don't deserve to be here,
but You've been good to me. Hallelujah to God!'
Hallelujah! He's been a good God. You'll sing with the
redeemed and you'll shout and rejoice because you know
the one that's sitting on that Throne. And He is worthy!
He's worthy of our praise and our adoration. Because we
know Him. He's proven Himself to us. He's lifted us
from the dunghill to very Palace of the King."
-----
Ask Jesus to forgive your sin today, and enter in to eternity
as a living soul. Leave the fate of the judged and condemned.
There will be no returning from that final judgment, and that
final condemnation to the lake of fire where every soul cast
in will spend a conscious eternity in writhing agony and utter
torment because they totally rejected the truth. It is the
sufficient "prison" God created for an eternal being made in
the image and likeness of God, with the real power and authority
He affords us by our very design and nature in His creation.
On this Earth a lion is a fierce creation capable of much because
of how he's put together. We are made in the image and likeness
of God and we are powerful creations. And to constrain those in
this children-of-God form, nothing less than Hell would suffice,
and what He created as Hell is wholly sufficient to keep all evil,
all sin, all falseness out of His universe forever. Nothing that
enters in to the lake of fire will ever escape. No not ever. It
is the ongoing death that never ebbs, but is the full containment
for eternal beings who cannot die, in a place where they can do no
harm to the rest of God's creation.
-----
This is your salvation in Jesus Christ. He is saving from that
end. Jesus is offering you everything for free. All you have to
do is ask Him and you can be released from judgment, released from
condemnation and live forever in an angel-like body, with unlimited
resources, under the ongoing tutelage of an infinite God who has so
many more things to teach us in this vast universe He created ...
we've only scratched the surface of the surface here in this world
and in our Earthly understanding. What remains is infinite, because
the God who created it is infinite.
-----
Do not enter into judgment in eternity over matters of selfish and
foolish pride, or over a particular lust over some thing here in
this world that you don't want to give up. What is coming for us
in eternity is so much better than what we have today that they
could not even be weighted on the same scale.
Choose the way of truth, and of life. Cast off the devil's shiny
trinkets of traps and snares. Say no to his apparent nice things
which are only veils for death. Ask Jesus to forgive your sin and
feel the weight of God's eternal judgment come off of you in a way
that you can feel. And feel the new life enter in to your soul in
a way that you can feel. And feel His free gift of eternity assert
itself within your soul in a way that you can feel. What He gives
you by way of a full pardon ... it is tangible, and it's more than
a prisoner would feel when he's let go from prison, because you are
that prisoner, and you'll be let go from an eternal prison
I love you so much that I'm willing to teach you all of this at
the expense it will cost me ... but even with my loss to you in
the cases where there is loss, it is to my greater gain for those
who do hear. And know this: Jesus loves you far more than I do
because He is Love literally, and He is capable of loving you in
a full, complete, and eternal way even right now.
Ask Him to forgive your sin. Do it today. Right now. This very
second. Choose eternity. Choose life. Choose truth. And make
the choice for you, your family, your friends, your co-workers.
Lead them all to this same glorious end of living in the paradise
of Heaven with God in a body like the angels, with a home in a
place where even the streets are paved with gold, and how much
more so the beautiful things?
Give yourself permission to be set free from your sin. Give
yourself permission to come to Jesus and ask Him to forgive you.
Give yourself permission to receive this, His greatest gift for
you. And act on that decision right now.
Love you,
Rick C. Hodgin
Kerr-Mudd,John
Nov 22, 2017, 7:16:33 AM11/22/17
to
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@nospicedham.gmail.com> wrote in news:ov3i0n
$9a0$5...@gioia.aioe.org:
> Eternity begins
[]
> Rick C. Hodgin
>
I see now why this group needs moderating.
$9a0$5...@gioia.aioe.org:
> Eternity begins
[]
> Rick C. Hodgin
>
I see now why this group needs moderating.
Terje Mathisen
Nov 22, 2017, 8:31:38 AM11/22/17
to
destroy comp.arch, but here in clax he has managed to mostly stay on topic.
With the semi-automatic moderation system we have here, he obviously
does not belong on the white list any longer, and the moderator will
have to decide if he should be banned altogether or still be allowed to
post on-topic.
Terje
--
- <Terje.Mathisen at tmsw.no>
"almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching"
Bernhard Schornak
Nov 22, 2017, 10:31:47 AM11/22/17
to
Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> Eternity begins when we leave this world...
...and stupidity begins where reason and logic come to
an end.
Do you want to usurp the entire usenet, Rick?
Greetings from Augsburg
Bernhard Schornak
> Eternity begins when we leave this world...
...and stupidity begins where reason and logic come to
an end.
Do you want to usurp the entire usenet, Rick?
Greetings from Augsburg
Bernhard Schornak
James Harris
Nov 22, 2017, 11:46:53 AM11/22/17
to
On 22/11/2017 13:19, Terje Mathisen wrote:
> Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
>> "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@nospicedham.gmail.com> wrote in news:ov3i0n
>> $9a0$5...@gioia.aioe.org:
>>
>>> Eternity begins
>> []
>>
>>> Rick C. Hodgin
>>>
>>
>> I see now why this group needs moderating.
>>
> Rick has been warned multiple times, has worked tirelessly to try to
> destroy comp.arch, but here in clax he has managed to mostly stay on topic.
He has also wrecked alt.os.development. And I would think there would be
> Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
>> "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@nospicedham.gmail.com> wrote in news:ov3i0n
>> $9a0$5...@gioia.aioe.org:
>>
>>> Eternity begins
>> []
>>
>>> Rick C. Hodgin
>>>
>>
>> I see now why this group needs moderating.
>>
> Rick has been warned multiple times, has worked tirelessly to try to
> destroy comp.arch, but here in clax he has managed to mostly stay on topic.
others. He seems to go back to anywhere where there are people willing
to engage with him on any level - even if it is by angry and abusive
rants. The only solution, AISI, is not to respond.
>
> With the semi-automatic moderation system we have here, he obviously
> does not belong on the white list any longer, and the moderator will
> have to decide if he should be banned altogether or still be allowed to
> post on-topic.
live and shouldn't be expected to vet posts - especially ones which
begin on topic but then slip in some preaching part-way down. I.e. I'd
suggest a complete ban. We'll live without the preacher. I already have
him killfiled and I survive....
--
James Harris
Alex
Nov 22, 2017, 1:32:03 PM11/22/17
to
the right to be free of spammers. alt.os.dev is swamped by the jism of
Hodgin's devotional wanking, and comp.arch is in danger of going the
same way sine he started cracking one off daily over there as well.
Ban him.
--
Alex
Rod Pemberton
Nov 22, 2017, 4:17:15 PM11/22/17
to
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:03:03 +0800
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@nospicedham.gmail.com> wrote:
CLAX filter test:
eternity, Christ, God, sin, Devil
If this made it, the test failed, Frank.
> For some that means joy.
I hate to say this, but there apparently is no joy with you around
Rick. You've created mini-Hell for those who read your posts, just in
time for Christmas. You've been naughty.
Oh, yeah, I almost forgot, Frank has been on to me lately for mildly OT
posts, even when marked OT. So, I need to post some irrelevant
assembly. This should do:
DEC
DEC
DEC
DEC
DEC
DEC
...
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander ... So, I guess that
means that all of you guys /should/ be cited by Frank this time around
for being entirely OT and also not marking your replies as OT
either. ;-) "Love" you guys too! ROFL.
Of course, it would be best to just ban Rick for a while, wouldn't it?
Rod Pemberton
--
Does the increase in pedestrian deaths correspond with the increase in
Millennials?
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@nospicedham.gmail.com> wrote:
CLAX filter test:
eternity, Christ, God, sin, Devil
If this made it, the test failed, Frank.
> For some that means joy.
Rick. You've created mini-Hell for those who read your posts, just in
time for Christmas. You've been naughty.
Oh, yeah, I almost forgot, Frank has been on to me lately for mildly OT
posts, even when marked OT. So, I need to post some irrelevant
assembly. This should do:
DEC
DEC
DEC
DEC
DEC
DEC
...
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander ... So, I guess that
means that all of you guys /should/ be cited by Frank this time around
for being entirely OT and also not marking your replies as OT
either. ;-) "Love" you guys too! ROFL.
Of course, it would be best to just ban Rick for a while, wouldn't it?
Rod Pemberton
--
Does the increase in pedestrian deaths correspond with the increase in
Millennials?
Frank Kotler
Nov 22, 2017, 5:10:59 PM11/22/17
to
James Harris wrote:
...
Rick has contacted me by private mail and apologized. He says he did not
write this post. I believe him. He has been on the "whitelist" for some
time, and has been cooperative about posting only on-topic messages to
c.l.a.x. He has posted a message apologizing to us all. I'm not going to
post that - he has apologized, let this be the end of it!
Best,
Frank
...
> The only solution, AISI, is not to respond.
Correct. So why in hell don't you all do that?
Rick has contacted me by private mail and apologized. He says he did not
write this post. I believe him. He has been on the "whitelist" for some
time, and has been cooperative about posting only on-topic messages to
c.l.a.x. He has posted a message apologizing to us all. I'm not going to
post that - he has apologized, let this be the end of it!
Best,
Frank
rug...@nospicedham.gmail.com
Nov 23, 2017, 6:48:48 PM11/23/17
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Hi,
On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 4:10:59 PM UTC-6, Frank Kotler wrote:
>
> Rick has contacted me by private mail and apologized. He says he did not
> write this post. I believe him. He has been on the "whitelist" for some
> time, and has been cooperative about posting only on-topic messages to
> c.l.a.x. He has posted a message apologizing to us all. I'm not going to
> post that - he has apologized, let this be the end of it!
I'm not in the loop. I've only randomly seen a few posts from Rick
about this.
It seems that news://alt.os.development (which I don't frequent)
has some more info about this. Indeed, there he is (claiming to be)
impersonated by others. That is fairly serious!
Don't take this the wrong way, Frank, but I wish that was made
more obvious here instead of just saying "let this be the end of it".
I don't think this problem is quite going to "go away" on its own.
I'm too naive, I've never bothered (why would I?), but perhaps
Rick can sign his messages with GnuPG or whatever? Certainly a
time-waster, but if needed, couldn't that be used to verify his
posts?
On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 4:10:59 PM UTC-6, Frank Kotler wrote:
>
> Rick has contacted me by private mail and apologized. He says he did not
> write this post. I believe him. He has been on the "whitelist" for some
> time, and has been cooperative about posting only on-topic messages to
> c.l.a.x. He has posted a message apologizing to us all. I'm not going to
> post that - he has apologized, let this be the end of it!
about this.
It seems that news://alt.os.development (which I don't frequent)
has some more info about this. Indeed, there he is (claiming to be)
impersonated by others. That is fairly serious!
Don't take this the wrong way, Frank, but I wish that was made
more obvious here instead of just saying "let this be the end of it".
I don't think this problem is quite going to "go away" on its own.
I'm too naive, I've never bothered (why would I?), but perhaps
Rick can sign his messages with GnuPG or whatever? Certainly a
time-waster, but if needed, couldn't that be used to verify his
posts?
Frank Kotler
Nov 23, 2017, 7:17:40 PM11/23/17
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rug...@nospicedham.gmail.com wrote:
...
but I thought it had blown over and turned it back on. Not yet, I guess.
Okay, it's off again. All posts will be delayed until I get around to
approving them. Do not blame the one off topic post. Blame the replies
to it.
Best,
Frank
...
> I don't think this problem is quite going to "go away" on its own.
Apparently you are right. I had "auto approval" turned off for a while,
but I thought it had blown over and turned it back on. Not yet, I guess.
Okay, it's off again. All posts will be delayed until I get around to
approving them. Do not blame the one off topic post. Blame the replies
to it.
Best,
Frank
Terje Mathisen
Nov 24, 2017, 2:46:26 AM11/24/17
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Rick's latest posts, both on- and off-topic: If, as Rick claims, he is
being impersonated then that would almost certainly be visible in the
form of the routing headers which would show at least a few differences.
I don't think this is true, but it would be good to verify.
Frank Kotler
Nov 24, 2017, 3:19:16 AM11/24/17
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Terje Mathisen wrote:
> Frank Kotler wrote:
>> rug...@nospicedham.gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>> I don't think this problem is quite going to "go away" on its own.
>>
>> Apparently you are right. I had "auto approval" turned off for a while,
>> but I thought it had blown over and turned it back on. Not yet, I guess.
>> Okay, it's off again. All posts will be delayed until I get around to
>> approving them. Do not blame the one off topic post. Blame the replies
>> to it.
>>
>
> Frank, I would appreciate it if you checked all headers for a few of
> Rick's latest posts, both on- and off-topic: If, as Rick claims, he is
> being impersonated then that would almost certainly be visible in the
> form of the routing headers which would show at least a few differences.
>
> I don't think this is true, but it would be good to verify.
>
> Terje
>
Okay, Terje, for you and only for you. It's your effing mailbox.
> Frank Kotler wrote:
>> rug...@nospicedham.gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>> I don't think this problem is quite going to "go away" on its own.
>>
>> Apparently you are right. I had "auto approval" turned off for a while,
>> but I thought it had blown over and turned it back on. Not yet, I guess.
>> Okay, it's off again. All posts will be delayed until I get around to
>> approving them. Do not blame the one off topic post. Blame the replies
>> to it.
>>
>
> Frank, I would appreciate it if you checked all headers for a few of
> Rick's latest posts, both on- and off-topic: If, as Rick claims, he is
> being impersonated then that would almost certainly be visible in the
> form of the routing headers which would show at least a few differences.
>
> I don't think this is true, but it would be good to verify.
>
> Terje
>
I'll turn "auto approve" back on. If you people want to discuss Rick, go
ahead. I apologize to the few people whose messages I rejected. I would
have sworn they were off topic.
I'll see of I can fish the headers out of the bin and post 'em up here
for you to pore over to your heart's content. Perhaps you think it's on
topic if the right person wrote it.
I'll keep posting messages for now, but you guys need to figure out who
you want for a new moderator. I've had it.
Sincerely,
Frank
Frank Kotler
Nov 24, 2017, 3:57:52 AM11/24/17
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Frank Kotler wrote:
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Subject: Jesus offers to give you... everything
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Subject: Re: Jesus offers to give you... everything
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I did not write the post that started this thread. I am being
impersonated by Peter Cheung online. He learned from Leigh Johnston
on comp.lang.c++ (Mr. Flibble) yesterday how to impersonate me fully,
so that it shows up even from my own email address, and now he's using
that information to post messages everywhere.
I have contacted Frank Kotler and told him about the false post. I
have respected Frank's request to not post such things here on clax,
and I have had no intention of doing so in the future. This is a
moderated group, and Frank is the moderator. He's given a tremendous
amount back to the assembly community, and I desire to be an active
part of that community.
I apologize for Peter Cheung's attacks on these newsgroups in recent
weeks. I believe he is angry with me because he lost his GitHub
account and all of his repositories after making death threats to me
on several GitHub issues on my repositories.
In any event ... please be more discerning. You can look at the
headers and see if it's really me or not. I post from Indianapolis,
Indiana, using Google Groups or Eternal-September.org. I do not use
any Apple or Mac equipment, and all you have to do is ask me if I
posted something and I'll tell you the truth.
I am about to the point where I'm going to start posting with mirror
messages to my own web server so that people can validate when it is
really me, because Peter or Leigh will not be able to fake the mirror
message on my server's IP address.
--
Rick C. Hodgin
-------------------
I leave it to wiser heads to decide who's who. You want to see the ones
from "rickchodgininjesus"? Quite clearly not Rick. I've rejected dozens
of 'em.
In my view, it's the topic that's off topic, not the person. Perhaps
your new moderator will have a different view.
Sincerely,
Frank
...
> I'll see of I can fish the headers out of the bin and post 'em up here
> for you to pore over to your heart's content. Perhaps you think it's on
> topic if the right person wrote it.
Okay, here ya go... This is the "offending" message:
> for you to pore over to your heart's content. Perhaps you think it's on
> topic if the right person wrote it.
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Subject: Re: Jesus offers to give you... everything
From: "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com>
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I did not write the post that started this thread. I am being
impersonated by Peter Cheung online. He learned from Leigh Johnston
on comp.lang.c++ (Mr. Flibble) yesterday how to impersonate me fully,
so that it shows up even from my own email address, and now he's using
that information to post messages everywhere.
I have contacted Frank Kotler and told him about the false post. I
have respected Frank's request to not post such things here on clax,
and I have had no intention of doing so in the future. This is a
moderated group, and Frank is the moderator. He's given a tremendous
amount back to the assembly community, and I desire to be an active
part of that community.
I apologize for Peter Cheung's attacks on these newsgroups in recent
weeks. I believe he is angry with me because he lost his GitHub
account and all of his repositories after making death threats to me
on several GitHub issues on my repositories.
In any event ... please be more discerning. You can look at the
headers and see if it's really me or not. I post from Indianapolis,
Indiana, using Google Groups or Eternal-September.org. I do not use
any Apple or Mac equipment, and all you have to do is ask me if I
posted something and I'll tell you the truth.
I am about to the point where I'm going to start posting with mirror
messages to my own web server so that people can validate when it is
really me, because Peter or Leigh will not be able to fake the mirror
message on my server's IP address.
--
Rick C. Hodgin
-------------------
I leave it to wiser heads to decide who's who. You want to see the ones
from "rickchodgininjesus"? Quite clearly not Rick. I've rejected dozens
of 'em.
In my view, it's the topic that's off topic, not the person. Perhaps
your new moderator will have a different view.
Sincerely,
Frank
Terje Mathisen
Nov 24, 2017, 3:57:53 AM11/24/17
to
Frank Kotler wrote:
>
> I'll turn "auto approve" back on. If you people want to discuss Rick,
> go ahead. I apologize to the few people whose messages I rejected. I
> would have sworn they were off topic.
You really don't need to whitelist him yet, I just wondered if it would
be possible to look at a couple of his last efforts...
I'll do it myself, it should be possible unless the moderation sw strips
too much.
related to low-level programming has been fine, but we've all had enough
from one particular guy.
Please don't give up just yet, I think you've done a very admirable job.
Terje
>
> Sincerely, Frank
> Terje Mathisen wrote:
>> Frank, I would appreciate it if you checked all headers for a few
>> of Rick's latest posts, both on- and off-topic: If, as Rick claims,
>> he is being impersonated then that would almost certainly be
>> visible in the form of the routing headers which would show at
>> least a few differences.
>>
>> I don't think this is true, but it would be good to verify.
>>
>> Terje
>>
> Okay, Terje, for you and only for you. It's your effing mailbox.
:-)
>> Frank, I would appreciate it if you checked all headers for a few
>> of Rick's latest posts, both on- and off-topic: If, as Rick claims,
>> he is being impersonated then that would almost certainly be
>> visible in the form of the routing headers which would show at
>> least a few differences.
>>
>> I don't think this is true, but it would be good to verify.
>>
>> Terje
>>
> Okay, Terje, for you and only for you. It's your effing mailbox.
>
> I'll turn "auto approve" back on. If you people want to discuss Rick,
> go ahead. I apologize to the few people whose messages I rejected. I
> would have sworn they were off topic.
be possible to look at a couple of his last efforts...
I'll do it myself, it should be possible unless the moderation sw strips
too much.
>
> I'll see of I can fish the headers out of the bin and post 'em up
> here for you to pore over to your heart's content. Perhaps you think
> it's on topic if the right person wrote it.
We've never been very narrow-minded here in clax, anything even barely
> I'll see of I can fish the headers out of the bin and post 'em up
> here for you to pore over to your heart's content. Perhaps you think
> it's on topic if the right person wrote it.
related to low-level programming has been fine, but we've all had enough
from one particular guy.
>
> I'll keep posting messages for now, but you guys need to figure out
> who you want for a new moderator. I've had it.
Ouch!
> I'll keep posting messages for now, but you guys need to figure out
> who you want for a new moderator. I've had it.
Please don't give up just yet, I think you've done a very admirable job.
Terje
>
> Sincerely, Frank
Terje Mathisen
Nov 24, 2017, 4:58:00 AM11/24/17
to
Frank Kotler wrote:
> Frank Kotler wrote:
>
> ...
>> I'll see of I can fish the headers out of the bin and post 'em up here
>> for you to pore over to your heart's content. Perhaps you think it's
>> on topic if the right person wrote it.
>
>
> Okay, here ya go... This is the "offending" message:
OK, I think we might have to give him the benefit of doubt here: The
> Frank Kotler wrote:
>
> ...
>> I'll see of I can fish the headers out of the bin and post 'em up here
>> for you to pore over to your heart's content. Perhaps you think it's
>> on topic if the right person wrote it.
>
>
> Okay, here ya go... This is the "offending" message:
supposed forgery show clear signs of coming from a host in the EU, while
his apology have very different headers. The problem is of course that
there is no easy way to determine which is which except by examining all
those headers, and we would still face the risk of another return to his
old/bad behavior.
I'll leave it up to you, but if you would like to do without the
additional manual work, just leave him on the black list.
Frank Kotler
Nov 24, 2017, 6:13:07 AM11/24/17
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Terje Mathisen wrote:
> Frank Kotler wrote:
>> Frank Kotler wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>> I'll see of I can fish the headers out of the bin and post 'em up here
>>> for you to pore over to your heart's content. Perhaps you think it's
>>> on topic if the right person wrote it.
>>
>>
>> Okay, here ya go... This is the "offending" message:
>
> OK, I think we might have to give him the benefit of doubt here: The
> supposed forgery show clear signs of coming from a host in the EU, while
> his apology have very different headers. The problem is of course that
> there is no easy way to determine which is which except by examining all
> those headers, and we would still face the risk of another return to his
> old/bad behavior.
>
> I'll leave it up to you, but if you would like to do without the
> additional manual work, just leave him on the black list.
>
> Terje
Hi Terje,
> Frank Kotler wrote:
>> Frank Kotler wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>> I'll see of I can fish the headers out of the bin and post 'em up here
>>> for you to pore over to your heart's content. Perhaps you think it's
>>> on topic if the right person wrote it.
>>
>>
>> Okay, here ya go... This is the "offending" message:
>
> OK, I think we might have to give him the benefit of doubt here: The
> supposed forgery show clear signs of coming from a host in the EU, while
> his apology have very different headers. The problem is of course that
> there is no easy way to determine which is which except by examining all
> those headers, and we would still face the risk of another return to his
> old/bad behavior.
>
> I'll leave it up to you, but if you would like to do without the
> additional manual work, just leave him on the black list.
>
> Terje
There is no "blacklist", only a whitelist or not on the whitelist. Rick
specifically asked me, in private mail, to remove him from the
whitelist. By coincidence, I had just done that when I read his mail. He
remains off the whitelist, but he is not "banned". If he post something
on topic - which he often does - I will approve it. If you guys really
want to continue this thread, I may allow him to defend himself.
I do not know Rick, but I have "e-known" him for a long time. He appears
to me to be a nice, helpful guy. Yeah, he's "got religion" lately. Some
time ago, he posted here on that topic. I took him off the whitelist and
had some conversation with him in private mail. After a few on topic
posts, I put him back on the whitelist. He has cooperated by posting
only on topic material... until this "eternity" post. This is why,
without looking at the headers, I believe him when he says he didn't
write it. I'm not sure that there is any "bad behavior"...here.
Rick has made some off topic posts to a.o.d. There are also posts from
"rickchodgininjesus@..." - I've rejected dozens of them here. Is it
Rick's off topic posts, or Rick's off topic posts plus many off topic
replies to Rick's posts which have "ruined a.o.d."? Think about it. This
is what I'm trying to avoid here. It looks like a.o.d. may be quieting
down and getting back to OS development. I wish them luck. I wish us luck.
Best,
Frank
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