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Frederick D Abraham

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May 18, 2013, 7:45:29 AM5/18/13
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This word appears on p. 38 of the June Scientific American.  Comments are invited.
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Frederick D Abraham

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May 23, 2013, 1:30:37 AM5/23/13
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The lack of reply, except for one failed attempt to post such a reply, suggests either boredom for the topic, or unfamiliarity with the reference, so here is a brief explanation:

This refers to Google's new product, Google Glass, which straps to the skull with a viewer/webcam that records all that is seen and heard when in record mode.  The results can be deployed in any number of places, including the Net, much the same as photos and videos from cell phones. This for anybody willing to beta test after buying the Glass for $1500.  The public deployment of publicly obtained information has created pretty much the same socio-ethical considerations as did the publishing of private residences on various map programs.  Some nerd/wags have already highlighted this socioethical issue calling those who publish such information, "glassholes", the etymology is obvious.  I expected some discussion over these issues, hopefully with some suggestions for dynamical/social research on the topic.

The failed attempt by one member to post a reply may be due to having gotten engrossed in some browsing on the subject, to have gotten out of any reply mode (which can be made either in reply to the email post or by going to the Google Group Chaopsych topic).

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Theodore Hoppe

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May 23, 2013, 11:44:14 AM5/23/13
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I did find this but didn't hare it.



"With all the lucky first Google Glass owners now starting to receive their wearable face computers in the mail, we are already seeing a rise in the "glasshole"—an endearing term used to describe people who do not use the gadgets in socially acceptable ways. Even before there were so many Glass wearers out in the wild, "glasshole" had started to catch-on beyond the tech-set. After first appearing in 
TechCrunch in January, it was selected as the Urban Dictionary word of the day in March. Then, just the other day Business Insider sanctioned it as the "new word to describe inconsiderate Google Glass users." Or, in the words of Bruce Schneier the legendary computer security expert: "We're seeing the birth of a new epithet, 'glasshole.'" But, how did "glasshole" get the honor of representing all the terrible Glass wearing humans out there, why not glasswipe or glasshat or, something completely different, like Google Jerkbots?"


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gus koehler

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On Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:45:29 AM UTC-7, Frederick D Abraham wrote:
This word appears on p. 38 of the June Scientific American.  Comments are invited.
 
Two things. First, there is no "glass" in the Google glasses, only the glass on a small monitor and camera.
 
Second,  this issue is being addressed on "Stop the Cyborgs" a very interesting web site that posts papers and political activity on the issues associated with Google glass and other enhancements.
 
Personally, I think its here to stay and will be combined with hypatic suits of various kinds.  All senses will tethered to the net in one way or another creating a very complex "bastard" space as one commentator called it, that is the cross-over point between virtual and real.  Privacy will mean even less when our whole bodies are involved and "sold" or "sold" to.  Of course we can then have the wonderful benefit of "feel" and "seeing" our friends and of having our entire world respond to us to shape us or to fulfill some individual appetite. My body---get over it.
 
This whole issue will be looked at in my paper on how we construct places in space at the upcoming chaos conference.

Theodore Hoppe

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May 23, 2013, 7:24:25 PM5/23/13
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For those of us without the glasses.......

http://www.ted.com/talks/sergey_brin_why_google_glass.html

Detweiler, Karen R.

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May 24, 2013, 2:37:15 PM5/24/13
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FWIW, I think part of the appeal of the Scientific American piece is the construction of the label “Glassholes” itself.

 

By combining the element of the product (glass) with a common label for self-involved jerks, the label “Glassholes” evokes meaning for the technology and the kind of person who might adopt it. It is likely to have a high emotional valence, especially for technology’s early adopters who usually want to be seen as “cool” and “with it.” In this case, the closest colloquial parallel I can offer is the term “Fashion victim,” i.e., someone who slavishly follows current trends in apparel even when they are overpriced, poorly constructed, and/or not flattering and suitable for the person’s actual life.

 

That the label creates alliteration with the vendor name (Google Glass) also helps it become memorable.  

 

In short, “Glassholes” has all the key elements to become a viral name for the users of the Google Glass technology and its knockoffs.

 

++Karen

Theodore Hoppe

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May 24, 2013, 4:17:17 PM5/24/13
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Nice observations. Karen may be on to something here but the word, "glasshole," also seems to be a put down.
Certain places have banned the glasses, some restaurants I believe, and so there is surely a bit backlash to the technology, or it users.

Does anyone recall "Sixth Sense?"  It was developed in 2009 and is now open sourced for anyone to configure.  




Frederick D Abraham

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May 24, 2013, 6:40:48 PM5/24/13
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It was nice to see their use by Che Guevera, John F. Kennedy, and in Star Trek.

Frederick D Abraham

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May 24, 2013, 6:47:58 PM5/24/13
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Yes Karen, this is the issue I had hoped would be discussed  and not just the construction of the term, but beyond the netiquette issues, the potential for abuse they pose.  Not unique, to these glasses, but the issue is well framed by them. I don't think Haptic suits would be as open to abuse, but Gus bringing them up reminds us that Haptic sensory systems and behavior have been well studied from the dynamical and action-perception point of view by Turvey and his associates.  I think the Google Glass could be well use for some of the types of experiments that have been performed in Turvey's lab, some involving psychophysics in the field, with the glasses in a good position for use in bring field type experments into the lab.

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Guastello, Stephen

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May 24, 2013, 6:54:54 PM5/24/13
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Actually, if you go to the journal Human Factors, people have been studying their practical use, disuse, and user annoyances for a while. Ergonomics probably has a few contributions in that area too.

 

Stephen J. Guastello, Ph.D.
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Frederick D Abraham

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May 24, 2013, 6:55:25 PM5/24/13
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I just did some browsing re Gus' mention of 'Stop the Cyborgs'.  Apparently there is a bug in android usage that allows a hacker to tap into your Google Glass, so if you use it while operating your computer, it can watch you enter your passwords, and hack into your computer.  Not sure of the details, but worth the browse, and a caution in using the glasses.

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Guastello, Stephen

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May 24, 2013, 6:57:29 PM5/24/13
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Google glasses transit images from the source to somewhere else. Why would any foo be using them while operating their own computer? GGs impede clear vision, not assist.

 

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Frederick D Abraham

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May 24, 2013, 7:02:21 PM5/24/13
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True, but the entry of the Glass makes a dramatic statement and suggests the possibility of their commercial deployment to new levels.
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Frederick D Abraham

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May 24, 2013, 9:13:22 PM5/24/13
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They would certainly have to be foolish.  I don't recall all the details, this was on a blog site dealing with the bugs in android that allowed this kind of hacking.

Frederick D Abraham

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May 24, 2013, 9:15:20 PM5/24/13
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Actually I am not familiar with these human factors.  It would be of interest if you could share with us some of their concerns with respect to misues and abuses.

fred 

gus koehler

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May 25, 2013, 11:22:59 AM5/25/13
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Here is a general overview of various issues with google glass trom The New York Times:  

GRAY MATTER: Is Google Glass Dangerous? Technology like Google Glass and Siri may be hands-free, but it still demands your attention. 

 
The combination of siri with visual distractions reinforced by hypatic devices is profound in my view. Monitoring all of this is very distracting and raises questions about the capacity to make good decisions as information is brought forward and acted on in virtual reality.  The images, voices, and physical inputs are, in many cases, driven by the profit motive whose goal is to capture the attention of the user with bright colors, sexual stimulus of various kinds, excitement, and various carefully scripted messages based on the individual's profile collected by BIG DATA.  The marketing goal is addiction to the consumption of a particular content, paid for or not, and its accompanying advertising. Lanier made these points quite well in this book You are not a Gadget.  The issue is the transformation of personal space via its blending with virtual spaces of various kinds into bastard space (a new kind of space spun off from the mating of virtual and real spaces). These are not trivial issues when combined with vast possibilities that go with combining information generated by Google Glass and personal BIG DATA profiles of he wearer and of those around them.

Theodore Hoppe

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Jun 4, 2013, 12:30:45 PM6/4/13
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The controversies continue.  Here is the lasest news regarding Google Glass, "BANNED."


Google will not allow apps that implement facial recognition on itsGoogle Glass product, the company says, citing privacy concerns, after an American company said it would offer a commercial service to recognise celebrities and others.


The first pornography app for Google Glass has launched, though not for long.

Linda Alford

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Jun 6, 2013, 11:52:56 PM6/6/13
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Also of interest? Google Glass is just the beginning.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2013/03/07/technology-google-glass-social-implications.html
 
best, Linda

Rachel Heath

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Jun 7, 2013, 3:44:47 AM6/7/13
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I’m curious about what glassholes has to do with the application of nonlinear dynamics in psychology and the life sciences.

 

Rachel

robert.gregson

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Jun 7, 2013, 9:39:08 PM6/7/13
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I am also curious for exactly the same reason,
and for some of the philosophical speculations we get sent to us
this never have a line of nonlinear  dynamics involved or quoted.
If I want to read some I go to journals on Chaos or Fractals or
Bifurcations.
Thanks Rachel for saying it.
Robert

Theodore Hoppe

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Jun 7, 2013, 11:22:52 PM6/7/13
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Point taken,but I believe there are non linear dynamics involved here if we see the bigger picture, and we might consider what they are.

Ted

P.S.  And there is always the "delete" button.

Rachel

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Jun 8, 2013, 6:11:52 AM6/8/13
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How about Google bombards the Glass with a little object that moves randomly around the screen and your task is to track its position with your eyes. Any nonzero correlation between the position of your eyes and the location of the object should represent space-time aspects of how your visual system processes stimuli (the principle behind earlier applications of what is called nonlinear system identification using the white-noise approach). Now Google is clever enough to compute these relationships and using an adaptive Bayes algorithm Google or anyone else can eventually discover how your visual system processes moving objects. Maybe Google Glass will be clever enough to tell you that you are getting tired and should take a rest from driving because your processing of moving objects is not up to scratch. 

Perhaps I could link this little HUD with my portable EEG monitor and allow Google to track exactly which part of my brain is doing all the work and how signals are being transferred between the various brain regions. A Bayesian modification of this nonlinear  methodology is now used by Friston and colleagues at UCL to examine brain imaging data from MRI and MEG image time series. They have developed advanced nonlinear data analysis procedures based on Dynamic Causal Modelling, e.g.  http://web.mit.edu/swg/ImagingPubs/connectivity/Dcm_Friston.pdf With this information one can indeed work out the interactive dynamics of brain regions for any given task, possibly under the influence of various psychotropic medications.

All of this looks like pretty exciting stuff for the future until you realise that Google will not only know where you are at any given time, but it will also know a lot about the internal workings of your brain if you do not think twice before purchasing the inevitable addon, Google BrainWave ( I already have BrainBand by MyndPlay, a device you wear around your head that contains two dry electrodes for measuring EEG at FP1 or FP2. It is fun controlling the plot of a video by changing the relative power of alpha and beta EEG at frontal sites). You could do the same with Google Glass + Google Brainwave in the comfort of your home, and Google and the rest of the universe will know all about you and how your brain works! Ummmmmmmmmmm

Rachel
    


Gus Koehler

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Jun 8, 2013, 10:39:54 AM6/8/13
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My interest lies in the study of social and political complex systems including how their various components are organized (nodes for example) and how they communicate with each other across domains or layers (edges involving energy, information, etc.).   Nonlinear data collection methods and analysis are, for the most part, computer driven either in how the data is collected, put into a data based, modeled or interpreted.  New virtual and other systems that have been appearing over the last few years are changing our’ s and globe’s social, economic, political other systems quite dramatically.  Google glass and other systems are related to perception and data collection. This extends to how scientist’s perceive—literally—the data on their computers and interact with it, even extending to the programing language which most of don’t understand. Finally, and this may not appeal much to many of you, for me critical philosophical analysis drawing on work by post modernists and others is an important part of what I do and am interested in.  Non-linear dynamics is well represented in these theoretical discourses and has been clearly involved in political revolutions in the middle east.  Some method for assigning and interpreting meaning—critical values related meaning which is directly related to what the actors think they are doing—is important. Art is a significant analytical approach for revealing the values and contradictions in such change that this not accessible using quantitative tools but critical to understanding what is going on. 

 

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Point taken,but I believe there are non linear dynamics involved here if we see the bigger picture, and we might consider what they are.

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robert.gregson

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Jun 8, 2013, 7:29:02 PM6/8/13
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I see a bit more about what is going on, may I cite two recent papers that seem
to be relevant to what Rachel was describing in Friston's work?
Asim Roy in Front Psychol 24 May 2013 doi: 10.3389
on 'An extension of the localist representation theory: grandmother
cells are also widely used in the brain'
and
Ralf-Peter Behrendt in Front Psychol 30 May 2013 doi: 10.3389
on 'Conscious experience and episodic memory: hippocampus at
the crossroads'
Work is moving so rapidly now that anything we find on consciousness is likely
to be partly obsolescent soon after it appears in print, as I discover  myself.

 Robert

Guastello, Stephen

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It's been my experience in the past few years that a lot of the neurocog material that's been pouring out of Wherever hasn't been particularly deep, and I didn't expect a lot of the material to have a long lifespan while reading it. There always was a publish-or-perish imperative in academe, but I think "imperative" may be reaching maniacal proportions. If authors are willing to pay to publish, the incremental originality can become smaller and the process accelerates.

 

If a paper happens to be a lot deeper than many others, it'll show through when reading it, and it'll have a longer life-span of influence.

 

Several years ago I was asked to review a book by Alessandro & Zbilut in 2008. (The book wasn't quite published at the time, and the journal for which I was writing the review went defunct.) They made an interesting observation that stuck with me for years: There is an artistry and craftsmanship in science. A&Z thought that artistry had gone seriously downhill, and we had entered an era of "blue collar science" -- people cranking out small bits of work without any sense of the big picture of what they were working on. I think A&Z had the right idea.

 

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Frederick D Abraham

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Jun 10, 2013, 9:52:07 AM6/10/13
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this message used a reply function which failed to go to the forum because of the addressing of the item to which it replied:


I have found a great article that applies to nonlinear interactions among multitasked/parallel processes in the perceptual-action-cognitive domain that I think could be applied to research with Google-Glass-type environments.  To wit:

Gregson, RAM (1996).  n-dimensional nonlinear psychophysics:  Intersensory interaction as a network at the edge of chaos.  In E MacCormac & MI Stavenov (eds.), Fractals of brain, fractals of mind.  Benjamins

It uses the famous gamma-recursions of the author and involves non only nonlinear dynamics but networks, and a cascades concept which may fall within the concept to which I apply the phrase, a mu-bifurcation process.

I think there are many problems to which these models could be used to drive research on, for example, driving an automobile (safety issues with cell phones, would/could G-Glasses amplify or mitigate safety). 

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Frederick D Abraham

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One of the things I like in chapter 4 of Cascades and Fields is the recognition that many of our fancy statistics do not reveal as much about the dynamic processes as we would wish.  Ueda notes a similar admission in discussing his explosive bifurcation of the driven Duffing system which is a cascade of micro-bifurcations (an example of a macro or μ-bifurcation (my papers are yet unfinished).  These are a function a control parameters, which would be, in your Γ recursions, the gain a and internal sensitivity e parameters, (C&F, p. 76).  I will have to study your work more carefully as I think you have developed the most explicit of modals and analysis of this process, well surpassing the traditional ‘edge of case’ (no rightfully a forgotten term; even the Sante Fe-ites have dropped it amid recognitions of the difficulty of pinning it down and because of its limited network-model horizons).  I think these will all be special cases of the μ process, though I have not included the hierarchical features that you have, nor is my thinking as developed mathematically; mainly an outline of an idea.

Respectfully, fred



On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:36 PM, robert.gregson <ram...@bigpond.com> wrote:
Fred is always kind to me when quoting what I have explored,
if cascades is the core topic that might be important, then the most detailed
source in a chapter is in the book by me called
Cascades and Fields in Perceptual Psychophysics,
published in 1995 by World Scientific. I have not done much since
on Cascades, perhaps I was overwhelmed by the intrinsic conplexity
of the algebra, but a very small touch to the topic gets within
one equation in a new paper by me now in press in NDPLS vol 17 (3), July.
Let us have more from Fred on his mu-bifurcation process.

Robert



On 10/06/2013 4:37 AM, Frederick D Abraham wrote:
I have found a great article that applies to nonlinear interactions among multitasked/parallel processes in the perceptual-action-cognitive domain that I think could be applied to research with Google-Glass-type environments.  To wit:

Gregson, RAM (1996).  n-dimensional nonlinear psychophysics:  Intersensory interaction as a network at the edge of chaos.  In E MacCormac & MI Stavenov (eds.), Fractals of brain, fractals of mind.  Benjamins

It uses the famous gamma-recursions of the author and involves non only nonlinear dynamics but networks, and a cascades concept which may fall within the concept to which I apply the phrase, a mu-bifurcation process.

I think there are many problems to which these models could be used to drive research on, for example, driving an automobile (safety issues with cell phones, would/could G-Glasses amplify or mitigate safety). 

fred
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I have been sitting along the sidelines during the ongoing discussion of GOOGLE’s ‘Glassholes’. Unbeknownst to most persons on this list and beginning in the 1960s (as a Stanford University graduate student in computer sciences and artificial intelligence), I was directly and/or indirectly involved in the development of most of the technologies that now are take-for-granted. A few of these technologies include: time-sharing; the ARPAnet/internet; text-editing/wordprocessing/spellchecking; computer-assisted instruction/computer-based instruction/computer-based dialogue/online education; speech and language recognition; three approaches to artificial intelligence (e.g., emulating human intelligence, modeling presumptive intelligence, and, computational theories of intelligence); browsing; novel approaches to helping/logistic reasoning/decision-making/problem-solving; mass storage; and, human factors (e.g., user interfaces, privacy, economics, common sense et al.). Indeed, my son (a professional golfer) recently remarked that he and his friends now are amazed that our early research (for which they only had a peripheral understanding at that time) now is revolutionizing their professions (e.g., physiological enhancements of golfer performance).

 

Regarding ‘Glassholes’ and its implications for non-linear dynamics, chaos theory et al., one only needs to ponder their long-term implications for persons with prosopagnosia and Hermansky-Pudlak syndrome (i.e., persons with facial blindness and/or who have little or no facial recognition/memory).

 

Roulette Wm. Smith PhD

gus koehler

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gus koehler

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I think this is a very important question.  The public’s memory, as we know from court testimony and from jury studies, is remarkably poor.  Survey research, different interview techniques, etc., and various statistical processes can be used to try and make it “clearer” but it always comes down to he remembered and said vs. she remembered and said.  Now, with Google glass this is no longer necessary. 

 

Some basic questions that I think have to be answered before yours can be: 1) is brain perception and memory of the content of space constructed and the same as that of machine memory space? Is the difference important? The tools for recording machine space are software and optics; the first is invisible and unknown and open to manipulation in unknown ways—so what is real and what are “real” tests conducted by whom?  Is infinitely distributed memories that are ageless any different than one memory at a time that dies or fades with the organism?  Finally, what about “bastard” or “mashed-up” real-virtual reality created by and or recorded by Google glass?

 

Lanier’s book, who owns the future?, raises a number interesting questions which the Technology Review may have just discovered. 

Guastello, Stephen

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By the same token "citizen journalism" does not speak for, or justify, the myriad uses and appearance of google glasses that will be recording events and people with no redeeming forensic value. We wouldn't want the police following us around, recording us, just to be sure we didn't do a crime or cross the street the wrong way. Why would we ever want pseudo-police, wackjobs, flakes, and stalkers doing the same thing?

 

Photographs are not necessarily trustworthy depending on the angle, cropping, etc. That's before we get to photoshopping images. A book appeared about 10 years ago called "A Robot in the Garden" which was mostly about distortions of meaning coming out of filtered images going into stationary video surveillance cams.  I can see how people would bootleg concerts and other admission-fee events too.

 

And of course the NSA is getting all the images from their Prism program, right?

 

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Theodore Hoppe

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re: 1) is brain perception and memory of the content of space constructed and the same as that of machine memory space?

"Smith and Squire therefore designed their experiments so that they could assess the effects of the age of a memory independently of both the encoding of the test questions and richness of the recollection of the memory. At the beginning of the task, the researchers presented in random order blocks of questions about events in each time period, and they asked participants to indicate whether or not they knew the answer. About 10 minutes later, while still in the scanner, the participants were asked three questions about each news event. First, they were asked to recall the original question they had been asked about the event (to assess how well they had encoded the information). Then, they were asked the answer to that question (to assess the accuracy of recall) and, finally, how much they knew about each of the events (to assess the richness of each memory)."

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-memory-trace

"Why, then, might old memories be transferred from the hippocampus to the frontal cortex? It may be because retrieving older memories requires stronger associations and increased effort—memory encoding in the frontal cortex is more complex than in the hippocampus, and involves a widely distributed network with a greater number of connections. The frontal cortex may therefore be better suited to the task of retrieving memories that were encoded in the distant past."



re: The public’s memory, as we know from court testimony and from jury studies, is remarkably poor. 

All of our memories are reconstructions. Scott Fraser is a forensic psychologist who thinks deeply about the fallibility of human memory and encourages a more scientific approach to trial evidence.

One suggestion is that all of us become much more attuned to the necessity, through policy, through procedures, to get more science in the courtroom, and I think one large step toward that is more requirements, with all due respect to the law schools, of science, technology, engineering, mathematics for anyone going into the law, because they become the judges. Think about how we select our judges in this country. It's very different than most other cultures. All right?

The other one that I want to suggest, the caution that all of us have to have, I constantly have to remind myself, about just how accurate are the memories that we know are true, that we believe in?


Is the day coming when we do not subpoena the witness we'll subpoena the Glasse's recording.


One final point, "Why do we fear the loss of privacy things like Google glasses represent?"
  Dan Ariely's book "The Honest Truth About Dishonesty"  
makes the point that we all want t benefit from being dishonest, and we don't want this to interfere with our view of our selves.  Google glasses threaten to disclose our dishonesty. 

http://www.thersa.org/events/rsaanimate/animate/rsa-animate-the-truth-about-dishonesty


  



Guastello, Stephen

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>Is the day coming when we do not subpoena the witness we'll subpoena the Glasse's recording.

>One final point, "Why do we fear the loss of privacy things like Google glasses represent?"
> Dan Ariely's book "The Honest Truth About Dishonesty" makes the point that we all want t benefit from >being dishonest, and we don't want this to interfere with our view of our selves. Google glasses threaten to >disclose our dishonesty.

If what was quoted here is accurate, Dan Ariely is a whore of the infotech-gov complex who is just trying to convince people to love the lose of their constitutional rights. If he remembered US History, the concern for privacy is not about anyone being dishontest, but about being ACCUSED -- planted evidence, trumped up trials, etc. etc.

IMO.


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P. O. Box 1881, Milwaukee, WI 53201-1881 USA
Editor-in-Chief, Nonlinear Dynamics, Psychology, and Life Sciences




From: chao...@googlegroups.com [chao...@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Theodore Hoppe [dustpro...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 8:05 PM
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Subject: Re: Glassholes


re: 1) is brain perception and memory of the content of space constructed and the same as that of machine memory space?


"Smith and Squire therefore designed their experiments so that they could assess the effects of the age of a memory independently of both the encoding of the test questions and richness of the recollection of the memory. At the beginning of the task, the researchers presented in random order blocks of questions about events in each time period, and they asked participants to indicate whether or not they knew the answer. About 10 minutes later, while still in the scanner, the participants were asked three questions about each news event. First, they were asked to recall the original question they had been asked about the event (to assess how well they had encoded the information). Then, they were asked the answer to that question (to assess the accuracy of recall) and, finally, how much they knew about each of the events (to assess the richness of each memory)."
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-memory-trace

"Why, then, might old memories be transferred from the hippocampus to the frontal cortex? It may be because retrieving older memories requires stronger associations and increased effort—memory encoding in the frontal cortex is more complex than in the hippocampus, and involves a widely distributed network with a greater number of connections. The frontal cortex may therefore be better suited to the task of retrieving memories that were encoded in the distant past."




re: The public’s memory, as we know from court testimony and from jury studies, is remarkably poor.

http://www.ted.com/talks/scott_fraser_the_problem_with_eyewitness_testimony.html



All of our memories are reconstructions. Scott Fraser is a forensic psychologist who thinks deeply about the fallibility of human memory and encourages a more scientific approach to trial evidence.


"First of all, there's a long history of antipathy between science and the law in American jurisprudence. I could regale you with horror stories of ignorance over decades of experience as a forensic expert of just trying to get science into the courtroom. The opposing council always fight it and oppose it.
One suggestion is that all of us become much more attuned to the necessity, through policy, through procedures, to get more science in the courtroom, and I think one large step toward that is more requirements, with all due respect to the law schools, of science, technology, engineering, mathematics for anyone going into the law, because they become the judges. Think about how we select our judges in this country. It's very different than most other cultures. All right?
The other one that I want to suggest, the caution that all of us have to have, I constantly have to remind myself, about just how accurate are the memories that we know are true, that we believe in?


Is the day coming when we do not subpoena the witness we'll subpoena the Glasse's recording.


One final point, "Why do we fear the loss of privacy things like Google glasses represent?"
Dan Ariely's book "The Honest Truth About Dishonesty" makes the point that we all want t benefit from being dishonest, and we don't want this to interfere with our view of our selves. Google glasses threaten to disclose our dishonesty.
http://www.thersa.org/events/rsaanimate/animate/rsa-animate-the-truth-about-dishonesty











On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Guastello, Stephen <stephen....@marquette.edu> wrote:

By the same token "citizen journalism" does not speak for, or justify, the myriad uses and appearance of google glasses that will be recording events and people with no redeeming forensic value. We wouldn't want the police following us around, recording us, just to be sure we didn't do a crime or cross the street the wrong way. Why would we ever want pseudo-police, wackjobs, flakes, and stalkers doing the same thing?

Photographs are not necessarily trustworthy depending on the angle, cropping, etc. That's before we get to photoshopping images. A book appeared about 10 years ago called "A Robot in the Garden" which was mostly about distortions of meaning coming out of filtered images going into stationary video surveillance cams. I can see how people would bootleg concerts and other admission-fee events too.

And of course the NSA is getting all the images from their Prism program, right?

Stephen J. Guastello, Ph.D.
Professor of Psychology, Marquette University
P. O. Box 1881, Milwaukee, WI 53201-1881 USA
Editor-in-Chief, Nonlinear Dynamics, Psychology, and Life Sciences




Guastello, Stephen

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I meant "FALSELY ACCUSED" a moment ago, but you got my gist, I'm sure.

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Professor of Psychology, Marquette University
P. O. Box 1881, Milwaukee, WI 53201-1881 USA
Editor-in-Chief, Nonlinear Dynamics, Psychology, and Life Sciences


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Frederick D Abraham

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This is proving to be a popular thread with over 35 posts!  We are all treading on thin ice I think, and Gus, Ted, and Steve probably gets closest by bringing up jurisprudence.  Surveillance is already extremely ubiquitous, and I don’t think G-glasses brings up anything new, except as Steve expresses, the extent to which is can be pervasive in both the public and private spaces.  There are video cams in police cars (mainly to protect themselves during apprehension procedures), most public businesses, on public streets, and mounted on newer traffic light installations, and those signs displaying your driving speed in many cities and towns (which easily be modified to transmit and record).  The car cams are now being sold in quantities for a fraction of the cost of the glasses (about $120-$150 for the better models).  Many cars are now equipped with rear viewing video. 

So the public spaces are a lost cause.  It has already happened.  The most important issue is the intrusion into the private sphere, now happening on a large scale basis, especially when done without warrants, as the Snowden case has emphasized, but we already knew that from cooperation from large isps with the government.  All in the name of 1984.  That is where the stand will have to take place.

We have something of the panopticon effect just in the use of discussion groups like ours.  Because a record is made, we become more conscious of our errors and sloppiness being recorded, and try to be more careful, such as my composing this off line and cut and pasting the result.  Also, knowing that big brother, not just us, is recording everything flying the internet, we are careful about how such surveillance might view what we say, and that certainly is a freedom of expression issue.

This will certainly be a major issue of our times as it unfolds in government, business, and our lives, how we balance freedom against commerce and security.

fred

Theodore A. Hoppe

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It was only a matter of time before others started commenting on Google Glasses:
This conversation appears at TED.  Those that are interested can look over the comments posted there.

Google Glass brings online to a whole new level. Imagine billions of people walking around recording and uploading video "live". No more secrets! People at work, people at play, people exploring and all that data available live to everyone. Another level of video search called "live search". If you want to find out what someone is doing simply type in their name and you can see what they see and do.

P.S.
Yes, Stephen sitting in front of a small fan.

Guastello, Stephen

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I wonder how popular the glasses would become if some the people wearing them became targets of violent attacks.

 

Stephen J. Guastello, Ph.D.
Professor of Psychology, Marquette University
P. O. Box 1881, Milwaukee, WI 53201-1881 USA
Editor-in-Chief, Nonlinear Dynamics, Psychology, and Life Sciences
 

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Guastello, Stephen

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Here's another angle, if anything anyone does, interesting or boring, can become a movie for later use, then everyone becomes a stage performer. A stage performance is protected by copyright, which is why bootleg taping equipment is not allowed in public performances. So if anyone is google-glassed without permission, they should be able to sue for copyright infringement.

 

When Shakespeare said "All the world is a stage," he had no clue how far that remark could go.

 

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Professor of Psychology, Marquette University
P. O. Box 1881, Milwaukee, WI 53201-1881 USA
Editor-in-Chief, Nonlinear Dynamics, Psychology, and Life Sciences
 

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gus koehler

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On Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:45:29 AM UTC-7, Frederick D Abraham wrote:
This word appears on p. 38 of the June Scientific American.  Comments are invited.

I can hardly wait for the my personal surround live montage movie from glassholes with surround sound from the glasshole microphones/earphones and constant pressure on various parts of my body from glassrubber happy interaction suite as I smell glassmolecules synthesized into my nostrils from all that interaction-food eating-sex and all.  Ahh, death will be by overload or the sudden invasion of shock reality when my battery fails and a mugger rips all the transducers off. Reality, get over it! 

Theodore Hoppe

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Google +  just prompted me with these message:
I respectfully said, "No Thanks"

Help people tag you in photos and videos
By turning on Find My Face, Google+ can prompt people you know to tag your face when it appears in photos and videos.
Of course, you have control over which tags you accept or reject, and you can turn this feature on or off in Google+ settingsLearn more
Turn on Find My Face
No Thanks

Theodore Hoppe

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We are in the wrong business!  We keep running away from the problem instead of participating in creating the problem and then dragging our bags of money to our charitable foundations.


http://www.economist.com/blogs/schumpeter/2013/05/memotos-wearable-camera?fsrc=scn/gp/wl/bl/dayinthelife

Another gadget that is possibly about to weave its way into our lives is a stamp-sized camera that can be worn on any garment and take pictures at 30-second intervals, creating a record of a life that can be searched and shared. Developed by Memoto, a Swedish start-up, the device has an app and cloud-storage platform to ensure that no experience—no matter how mundane—will go undocumented.

Memoto created a stir last year with a campaign on Kickstarter, a crowdfunding platform, to raise $50,000. It raked in more than $500,000. Oskar Kalmaru, one of its founders, says the “the first wave of the buzz” about the camera rolled in ahead of the Kickstarter campaign through a “network of friends around the company”. Memoto had €500,000 ($655,000) in seed funding from Passion Capital, a British venture-capital firm, enabling it to build a prototype camera. Crowdfunding allowed it to raise money before having to fund an expensive manufacturing process. “The alternative would have been to try and raise capital from investors for equity, but it would have been hard and expensive,” explains Mr Kalmaru.

Frederick D Abraham

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On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Frederick D Abraham <frederick...@gmail.com> wrote:
I would venture that this would only kick in if any commercial use were made of publicly documented events, and that likely there might be a flurry of new laws directed toward this problem.

I have recently played jazz publicly, and when Green Mountain Coffee Roasters (our Green Mountain Swing band give us rehearsal space, and they were one of the sponsors of luncheon concert last week), we all signed releases for their videotaping of our concert.  Least we could do for the use of their space.

I might also add, that hacking Google glasses made the news yesterday, and Google is viewing this as a positive development during its beta testing relative to learning more about the operating system and improving it.

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Theodore A. Hoppe

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There was a new posting regarding an updated version of the G-glasses that have a single ear bud on Google +, but the glasses also has it's own Google + page. 

https://plus.google.com/u/0/+GoogleGlass/posts

gus koehler

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Theodore's comments catching up on our conversation are good ones.  As we move along it seems to me that we are beginning to fill in a complex picture from multiple disciplines about both virtual reality and its constructed interface world with extending off of the "real" world.  He notes evidence of increased dexterity using on-screen images during laprocopic operations, and other jobs that require increased attention to detail. Deep learning can be achieved through playing video games and even of deciphering complex enzymes.  The research about incorporation of the avatar with self, including a propensity to incorporate external body enhancements as result into an image of self.  

Additional elements that complement or expand these findings include: an expanded sense of feeling better (like medication) when watching TV or playing; a sense of immersion in "flow" since the challenge of the game can be adapted by the program to the skill level of the player, long sessions can lead to feeling of nausea, dizzyness and of being drained even though not real physical activity has occurred (Kubey and Csiksxentmihalyi, 2002); continuing social and sexual bias into on-line games that reinforce or are incorporated by players; narcissism, delusions of grandeur, viciousness, impulsivity, infantile regression, and love and sex re-calibration (Aboujaoude, 2011), the feeling of phantom touching and other extensions (Studia Universitatis Babes-Bolyai Philosophia: Phenomenology of Digital Technologies 2010),that people can be placed in and manipulated as a reserve (including their lives), the resurrection of a glorified body (Pdrena), issues surrounding what is meant by "virtual presence" (Zahoric and Jenison); that people flow back and forth in their sense of "place" between the worlds which can be mitigated by a sense of  "touching" something in the virtual world; presence as the perceptual illusion of non-mediation (Bracken and Atkin) and what it takes to judge the realism of media narratives including virtual ones (Media Psychology).  Interestingly, while there is data drawn from various brain scans of brain activity while an individual is immersed in the virtual, a quick search of the net could only find one that deals directly with the actual physical place-virtual-perception interaction (Hochber and Brooks, 1973).

A quick glance through the mess of citations shows that there have been expeditions into the realm of virtual, and even into the world between them called "bastard space", it does not present a map of or coherent understanding. I find this particularly interesting when such organizations as California's California Council on Science and Technology is investigating and recommending virtual learning for schools but does not site studies like the above that investigate these complex interfaces, particularly as they might shape a learning self.  The technology is also being used for psychotherapy of various kinds, again without, as far as I can discover with only a brief look, into the what this world is a a phenomenological and biological construction. Put another way, "what is this medicine and how does it act?" In the early days of the Well an avatar was killed off and real questions of whetted this was some sort of new kind of murder was brought up given the intense reaction of the avatar owner--the above begins to hint at why the issue emerged.

Theodore A. Hoppe

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 "I for one can’t wait to get some Glass on my face –- there seem to be so many exciting new social rules to break! If things are already starting to go awry, imagine what it’s going to be like when we’ve all mounted a beach ball and set light to our juggling sticks.

Mind you, once I’m allowed to join the “Glass Explorer Community”, like Groucho, it’ll be a club I won’t want to be a member of anyway."

Thanasis Argiriou

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Creating a mind tedex talk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIkxVci-R4k

T.A

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But Carter preferred to look at them than at his captors, which were indeed shocking and uncouth black things with smooth, oily, whale-like surfaces, unpleasant horns that curved inward toward each other, bat wings whose beating made no sound, ugly prehensile paws, and barbed tails that lashed needlessly and disquietingly. And worst of all, they never spoke or laughed, and never smiled because they had no faces at all to smile with, but only a suggestive blankness where a face ought to be. All they ever did was clutch and fly and tickle; that was the way of night-gaunts.

~ HPL , The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath

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Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us.

— H. G. Wells (1898), The War of the Worlds
The Coming of the Martians

The narrative opens by stating that as humans on Earth busied themselves with their own endeavours during the mid-1890s, aliens on Mars began plotting an invasion of Earth because their own resources are dwindling. The Narrator (who is unnamed throughout the novel) is invited to an astronomical observatory at Ottershaw where explosions are seen on the surface of the planet Mars, creating much interest in the scientific community. Months later, a so-called "meteor" lands on Horsell Common, near the Narrator's home in Woking, Surrey. He is among the first to discover that the object is an artificial cylinder that opens, disgorging Martians who are "big" and "greyish" with "oily brown skin", "the size, perhaps, of a bear", each with "two large dark-coloured eyes", and lipless "V-shaped mouths" which drip saliva and are surrounded by two "Gorgon groups of tentacles". The Narrator finds them "at once vital, intense, inhuman, crippled and monstrous".[8] They emerge briefly, but have difficulty in coping with the Earth's atmosphere and gravity, and so retreat rapidly into their cylinder.

A human deputation (which includes the astronomer Ogilvy) approaches the cylinder with a white flag, but the Martians incinerate them and others nearby with a heat-ray before beginning to assemble their machinery. Military forces arrive that night to surround the common, including Maxim guns. The population of Woking and the surrounding villages are reassured by the presence of the British Army. A tense day begins, with much anticipation by the Narrator of military action.

An army of Martian fighting-machines destroying England (1906)

After heavy firing from the common and damage to the town from the heat-ray which suddenly erupts in the late afternoon, the Narrator takes his wife to safety in nearby Leatherhead, where his cousin lives, using a rented, two-wheeled horse cart; he then returns to Woking to return the cart when in the early morning hours, a violent thunderstorm erupts. On the road during the height of the storm, he has his first terrifying sight of a fast-moving Martian fighting-machine; in a panic, he crashes the horse cart, barely escaping detection. He discovers the Martians have assembled towering three-legged "fighting-machines" (tripods), each armed with a heat-ray and a chemical weapon: the poisonous "black smoke". These tripods have wiped out the army units positioned around the cylinder and attacked and destroyed most of Woking. Taking shelter in his house, the Narrator sees moving through his garden a fleeing artilleryman, who later tells the Narrator of his experiences and mentions that another cylinder has landed between Woking and Leatherhead, which means the Narrator is now cut off from his wife. The two try to escape via Byfleet just after dawn, but are separated at the Shepperton to Weybridge Ferry during a Martian afternoon attack on Shepperton.

One of the Martian fighting-machines is brought down in the River Thames by artillery as the Narrator and countless others try to cross the river into Middlesex, and the Martians retreat to their original crater. This gives the authorities precious hours to form a defence-line covering London. After the Martians' temporary repulse, the Narrator is able to float down the Thames in a boat toward London, stopping at Walton, where he first encounters the curate, his companion for the coming weeks.

A Martian fighting-machine battling with HMS Thunder Child (1906)

Towards dusk, the Martians renew their offensive, breaking through the defence-line of siege guns and field artillery centred on Richmond Hill and Kingston Hill by a widespread bombardment of the black smoke; an exodus of the population of London begins. This includes the Narrator's younger brother, a medical student (also unnamed), who flees to the Essex coast, after the sudden, panicked, pre-dawn order to evacuate London is given by the authorities, on a terrifying and harrowing journey of three days, amongst thousands of similar refugees streaming from London. The brother encounters Mrs. Elphinstone and her younger sister-in-law, just in time to help them fend off three men who are trying to rob them. Since Mrs. Elphinstone's husband is missing, the three continue on together.

After a terrifying struggle to cross a streaming mass of refugees on the road at Barnet, they head eastward. Two days later, at Chelmsford, their pony is confiscated for food by the local Committee of Public Supply. They press on to Tillingham and the sea. There, they manage to buy passage to Continental Europe on a small paddle steamer, part of a vast throng of shipping gathered off the Essex coast to evacuate refugees. The torpedo ram HMS Thunder Child destroys two attacking tripods before being destroyed by the Martians, though this allows the evacuation fleet to escape, including the ship carrying the Narrator's brother and his two travelling companions. Shortly thereafter, all organised resistance has ceased, and the Martians roam the shattered landscape unhindered.

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