ColdFusion Builder Opinions

[Steve Onnis]

Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts?

 

For me:-

 

-          The search is just useless really.  If you search for something in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into the line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to hunt through the file

-          Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey.  I always get a “No file open” message and im like WTF?  I have to select a different source and then choose the Current document option again for it to work.

-          There is no direction option for the search which means if you want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the document for it to search the whole thing

-          You have to open a new search box for every file you have open.

 

 

[Zac Spitzer]

yeah I agree the search is a bit rubbish, half a million options and
it never just works... I really miss homesite...

there should be a right click on folder to do a search

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[Steve Onnis]

I am really starting to miss it too!

[Zac Spitzer]

the tag editors are also rather primitive and the online help is
really annoying, why do we have to always click "see also"?

[Peter Robertson]

So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a
Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then
under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree
structure with a drillable list of hits. You double click on a hit
and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file
and highlights the hit. I don't find it that different to Homsite
from what I can remember. Also, up and down arrows in the top of the
search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and
then across files.

I think it's all right.

Peter Robertson

[Mark Mandel]

I have to say - this week I started working in IntelliJ again, just to see how it was going with the new 11 release coming out.

I am really, really, really liking it.

It definitely has some rough edges, and it's been a bit of a learning curve, but man is it FAST, and it does some really nice stuff around component path completion and the like.

Worth having a poke at if you're not satisfied with Builder.

Mark

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[Steve Onnis]

A couple of the guys at AusPost were using that. It looked really nice too and the IDE seemed very fast, much faster than eclipse

 

From: Mark Mandel [mailto:mark....@gmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 4:42 PM
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[Andrew Myers]

Tweaking the eclipse.ini seems to help with CF Builder also. These
are the vmargs I use, and it's a lot nicer than it was...

-vmargs
-XX:+UseParallelGC
-XX:PermSize=256M
-Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion=1.5
-Xms512m
-Xmx1024m
-XX:+UseParallelGC
-XX:PermSize=256M
-XX:MaxPermSize=512M

[Andrew Myers]

Also, from an open File you can do CTRL F which brings up a find
dialog similar to Dreamweaver where you can search current document,
all open documents, project, workspace, etc.

Initially I disliked this, because it is different to Eclipse's
default behaviour. But it's pretty good.

[Steve Onnis]

Thats the worst search feature of them all

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:02 PM
To: cfau...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

[Andrew Myers]

What makes you say so?

[Steve Onnis]

Refer to my first email

[Andrew Myers]

>>>>>
- The search is just useless really. If you search for
something in a project, it would be much more useful if you could
drill down into the line in the file where the search instance appears
instead of having to hunt through the file
<<<<<<

CTRL -> F, change scope to projects, select a project, press find all,
and you get a "search" results view which has a tree view which has
"next match / previous match" options, and expands to show each match
in each file. Click it to go to the exact line of the match. By
default the search view opens in the right hand pane. I prefer to
move it to the bottom pane (somewhere near the servers view). If
you're not seeing it go to Window -> Show View -> Search

>>>>>
- Searching in the file you are working on/have open is
flakey. I always get a “No file open” message and im like WTF? I
have to select a different source and then choose the Current document
option again for it to work.
<<<<<<

Have never seen this myself. Has anyone else noticed it?

>>>>>>
- There is no direction option for the search which means if
you want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of
the document for it to search the whole thing
<<<<<<

In the CTRL -> F dialog there is a "search backwards" option.... I
also like to to enable the "Wrap search" option too

>>>>>
- You have to open a new search box for every file you have open.
<<<<<<

I don't see this behaviour at all. CTRL -> F allows you to repeat
your search on every open file - select files using the workspace
editor tabs and repeat the search in there if you want.

Andrew.

[Rawdyn]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one.

I have tried so hard to like it. This is my second go at using it and
I have been on it for 6 months or more now and I still don't like it
nearly as much as HomeSite+.

Might be a great CFUG to demo a few other options like IntelliJ etc.

Rawdy

> >> On 24 November 2011 16:31, Peter Robertson <peter.r.robert...@gmail.com>

[Kai Koenig]

Just a random thought (note: I don't have/see any of those issues people seem to have with the product - I actually think the search works great)...

Have you guys ever tried to make those suggestions/rants to Adobe. Not to Adobe corporate - we all know that it's ... well... rather difficult to get through to them. 

But to the CF/CF Builder product/engineering team directly? To (ex)-folks in product management like Adam or Rakshith? To Hemant or Rupesh in engineering management? Or to Terry? They've been to events like webDU or cf.O(ANZ) in the past - or - hey, actually just last week. The CF product team is _by far_ the easiest-to-approach product team within whole Adobe. If anyone _honestly_ wants to get in touch with those guys and help to improve the software so that it's more useful for you or your team or your whole company - I'm more than happy to put you in touch, just let me know.

Instead of complaining how much one misses Homesite or how bad one thinks CFB is etc - do something about it if you don't like it. Give direct feedback. Ask them for solutions/workarounds. Ask them to be part of pre-release programs and contribute in there. But don't magically expect a tool that's exactly doing what you want it to do and exactly how you want it to be done.

Just saying, 

Kai

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[M@ Bourke]

I often find, that when searching on a string that exists it will say it doesn't lol
however I pretty much always do a regex search which seems to always find what I'm after.

cheers

[Steve Onnis]

I thought i might have been the only having these experiences one but it looks like im not so i may just forward them onto Adobe J

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[Steve Onnis]

Has anyone got the search/replace to work on a project in ColdFusion Builder 2 ?

 

If i do a search i get results but when i do a replace it says it couldn’t find anything...

[M@ Bourke]

Select the results you wish to replace

[Steve Onnis]

The Aptana panel replace function says there are no results, but if i use the File Search panel it works.....

 

From: M@ Bourke [mailto:m.electroni...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 11:16 AM
To: cfau...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

 

Select the results you wish to replace

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[Barry Chesterman]

I'm on CFBuilder2 and I have to say the default search which uses Aptana File Search was horrid - like you say, no way to jump to the line in the file where the search result is.
However, in the search dialog under Customize.. I turned off the Aptana File Search and now just use the 'File search' option which shows the lines in files search results are on and allows you to jump forwards and backwards through search results.

I found the aptana search would quite often not find a match for my search when I knew that value was in a file in the area I was searching so that was very wierd.

Since not using the Aptana search I haven't had a problem.

[Andrew Myers]

Hi Barry,

Very interesting.  I've never even noticed the Aptana search tab there.  This could well explain why some users found it better than others.  Great tipz

Andrew

[ColdGen Internet Solutions]

Keeps freezing on me so have stuck with Dreamweaver CS5.5 - I hated DW
with a passion in the days of Studio/HomeSite but it has matured into
a great product I use virtually all day everyday.

The new HTML5 additions and the updatable (not automatically sadly)
jQuery mobile templates are a bonus for me.

Peter Tilbrook
Web Administrator, The Club Group Pty. Ltd.
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[Geoff Bowers]

Bit late to this piece, but thought I should call out my own favourites in case any one is interested... 

Definitely take a look at Sublime 2 text editor -- built by a local Aussie to boot:

http://www.sublimetext.com/2

With ColdFusion support try:

http://nagpals.com/posts/sublime-coldfusion/

Plenty of posts going through fullasagoog on sublime on coldfusion in recent weeks.

And my own personal favourite being Textmate -- with the recently released Textmate 2.0 alpha just hitting the internet last week -- but its OSX only:

http://blog.macromates.com/

Enjoy!

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