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Clare Wallace

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May 14, 2020, 3:13:20 PM5/14/20
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Good evening all

For people planning awards nights/end of year events you can create a livestream of a meet so your “presenters” are in the meet but the audience on the livestream- early investigation suggests I can’t embed it (as it’s in the domain only) but you can invite a small number outside the domain via email (I’m thinking BOM). One way or the other it’s a relief to have found it as I couldn’t envisage how a meet was going to work!! I’ll investigate more thoroughly (my event is next Thursday) but I thought I’d share early in case others need it.


Clare

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Darina Burke

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May 15, 2020, 6:54:35 AM5/15/20
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Hi Clare
Can you share with people who aren’t on gmail for e.g parents?
Thanks for advice
Darina Burke
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Brendan O' Regan

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May 15, 2020, 6:59:23 AM5/15/20
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Since yesterday Google Meet available to all through left panel in Gmail. No time limit as far as I can see. Challenging Zoom? 

Brendan 

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Clare Wallace

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May 15, 2020, 7:05:35 AM5/15/20
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I googled that and it seems you can invite a small number outside the domain 
So the students would have to login to the domain
I presume you’d be grand putting the link on google classrooms 

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Darina Burke

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May 15, 2020, 7:07:49 AM5/15/20
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Thanks Clare.

Greg Ashe

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May 15, 2020, 7:12:04 AM5/15/20
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Meet already integrated into Classroom - you just have to enable to make visible to students

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John Hegarty

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May 15, 2020, 8:36:53 AM5/15/20
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Hi Clare,

I had a look at this too and it looks promising for the kind of use you are describing. I set one up using the instructions at the link in your email. I don't think we are likely to do this in my school but good to know this might be an option should it be needed.

Just as a general thing what I saw was.

To set it up
  • Add an event to your calendar
  • add a Google Meet facility to that calendar event
  • Then in the settings for the Meet inside the calendar event choose the option to add a live steam the meeting
  • Click Save
To use it
There will be two options for the organiser to use
  • Invite people as participants to the Google Meet. You can send a link for this in the normal way and anyone joining in this way will be a participant  in the meeting. This can be students/teachers with school accounts or others. Up to 250 can be invited to participate. The link to send is within the calendar event settings
  • Invite people to view the live stream of the meeting. Anyone with the link will be able to view the meeting but not participate. The limit for this one is 100,000 people. The link to send to guests is within the calendar event settings but is different from the link for participants.
When you start the meeting there will be a link at the top of the screen to start streaming. The organiser also has the option to record the meeting

So I guess only the folk who will be speaking and/or on camera should be invited as participants and everyone else would be a live streaming guest.

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Clare Wallace

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May 15, 2020, 10:30:21 AM5/15/20
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Thanks John

Interestingly though we are part of the “poor rural broadband” at home brigade (have I mentioned that before?..😀.) and I tried it with a colleague today....my avatar & voice came up on the livestream but not my video. So off to the school building with me next Thursday and really only staff with decent broadband can present!!! 

It’s a useful find alright

Clare



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Pat Duffy

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May 15, 2020, 3:52:44 PM5/15/20
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Clare, just thinking about your plan to live stream the awards night - great idea BTW! 
It's a pity it's limited to within the school domain instead of livestreaming it publicly or to anyone with the link, but there is a way to jailbreak this (isn't there always!) and any local video producer should get you sorted easily. 
It involves setting up the meet as normal, with your "presenters" logged in as normal, as well as your dedicated video streaming person. (S)he will play the meet in fullscreen mode, and take the video out /HDMI of their laptop and feed it into another PC that's streaming live to YouTube (or whatever platform you choose) using a video capture device. The link to this live video stream can be shared with parents etc beforehand. 

Advantages to this setup 
- there is no limit to the number of viewers
- no Gmail /domain accounts are needed
-there is zero cost involved for viewer or for you, more importantly!
 
Disadvantages 
- you either need a video capture device or someone willing to help out in this regard (I'd gladly do it only for the distance...) 
- the URL & subsequent live stream video would need to be handled with care as they are on a public platform. Delete straight afterwards....? 

Look forward to hearing how you get on 
Cheers 
Pat 

John Hegarty

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May 15, 2020, 4:06:04 PM5/15/20
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Hi Pat,

I think you might have missed a feature there. 

If you set up your Meet as an event in your calendar, there is an option to add "live streaming" to the Meet. This creates a separate link to the Meet for folk who will have view access only. It allows for up to 100,000 viewers :-) 
The viewing guests just need the link - no login required.

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Pat Duffy

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May 15, 2020, 4:27:01 PM5/15/20
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Ahhh my bad, thanks John!
Been looking into screens too long this week, missed that one vital bit of info 😂



Clare Wallace

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May 15, 2020, 5:36:25 PM5/15/20
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Lads as ever ye are brilliant 
But.....when you click on the live screen link you need to login to the domain...


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John Hegarty

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May 15, 2020, 6:16:53 PM5/15/20
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Aah - tuigim anois 

So the big number limit of 100,000 will comfortably allow the whole school to view, getting round the 250 limit of participants but still confined to those with a school account.

Thanks Clare

jh

Greg Ashe

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May 15, 2020, 6:27:13 PM5/15/20
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Tip: If you’re a G Suite administrator who manages Google Meet for your organization, first allow live streaming.

If you use Google Meet and Google Calendar for work or school, you can add view-only live streaming to an event for up to 100,000 people.

Who can view a live stream 

Only guests in your organization can view a live stream. All participants in your organization can stop and start the stream during the meeting, and record the event. Guests who join as “view-only” can’t participate in the meeting or control streaming and recording.


Pat Duffy

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May 16, 2020, 5:32:25 AM5/16/20
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It's all fairly confusing & cumbersome, and yet the live stream is still confined to members of your own domain?! The essence of a live stream is to provide access to the public, either freely or via a paywall, and either limited to those you choose to share the link with or widely available to the general public.
In this case of a school presentation /award ceremony, the ideal is that only those connected to the school (grandparents /siblings etc etc) would have the link, and without the need to log in with school domain account (& obviously without a paywall).... 
Refer back to my earlier workaround to achieve this, involving streaming out the video feed from a PC where that user has joined into the Meet for the awards ceremony. No login whatsoever required for the viewer. 

We've passed the mid-May mark... Nearly there 😁
P

Greg Ashe

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May 16, 2020, 5:47:42 AM5/16/20
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Why not just stream directly from YouTube? If you are a GAFE school you have a YT account.


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Clare Wallace

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May 16, 2020, 10:13:07 AM5/16/20
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Can you stream to youtube and how?? We are gafe....
Right now im thinking max 10 presnters (who either sit in different rioms on school broadband or swear have good bb at home). Make guest account for BOm (delete after event). Parents & kids watch through kids account. But a livestream pushed to youtube for granny, grandad & sister in Australia would be lovely ....
The great team organising this is doing a movie they are going to "present" at the start and Im hoping it will be lovely for the students.....

Greg Ashe

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May 16, 2020, 11:47:38 AM5/16/20
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Using app on phone click on the camera icon and you have to option to record or go live

Via browser the camera option top right beside 9 dots should give you option to upload video or go live. 



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Pat Duffy

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May 16, 2020, 1:36:59 PM5/16/20
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Greg
I think there's some crossed wires here.... Clare wants to stream her Google Meet awards ceremony to YouTube, not simply go live on YouTube herself via a webcam. 
This is more complex as it involves streaming a browser tab, and will need either a streaming software such as OBS/Wirecast or a workaround like I proposed yesterday.
For some bizarre reason, Google did away with the inbuilt facility to live broadcast the desktop /a tab / an application about 2 years ago, and the only option is a feed from webcam... Which for Clares purposes is not going to cut it

Ironically, this feature is baked natively into rival Zoom software but not into Meet... even though both Meet and YouTube are Google products 🙄😁


Laurence Cuffe

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May 16, 2020, 1:44:58 PM5/16/20
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My Daughter took a day off work for an online class, which was to be live streamed on youtube. All went well for the first hour, and then it was taken down.
it seems, her teacher did not have enough followers, as per:
Best regards
Laurence Cuffe.

p.s. eventually the class was continued as a facebook thing, but not everybody has facebook.

Greg Ashe

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May 16, 2020, 2:52:06 PM5/16/20
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Put a phone on a tripod and point this at the screen (or mirrored 2nd monitor) which has the live Meet session underway. Stream the phone to YouTube. 

Would not work well in a room full of people but under current circumstances it will work just fine for "granny in Australia"


Greg Ashe

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May 16, 2020, 2:56:38 PM5/16/20
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Yep.  YT won't let you stream unless you have "critical mass" so you need to be using an account that does! Good point. In fact the Live Stream option may not even appear I can't recall. 

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