Sandhyavandam Mantrardham and Prayojanam .

[Gstmadhav .raj]

My idea in Starting the Thread is to Collect the meanings and Tatva ardha in Sandhyavandnam mantras. We know that no standardized procedure is fixed in sandhyavandanam steps. Steps in Sandhyavandanam must be kept in ordered manner with reasoning. Like Slowly bringing the practitioner's attention from Bhooshuddi to Marjanya mantra. My dear group members please help me. 

[Nagaraj Paturi]

There was a thread on related topic here

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 11:15 PM, Gstmadhav .raj <gstm...@gmail.com> wrote:

My idea in Starting the Thread is to Collect the meanings and Tatva ardha in Sandhyavandnam mantras. We know that no standardized procedure is fixed in sandhyavandanam steps. Steps in Sandhyavandanam must be kept in ordered manner with reasoning. Like Slowly bringing the practitioner's attention from Bhooshuddi to Marjanya mantra. My dear group members please help me. 

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Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.

 

Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies

 

FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,

 

(Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )

 

 

 

[Nagaraj Paturi]

here

[Nagaraj Paturi]

I am sorry. Gmail's leela. 

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/bvparishat/eNHAWyNOS50/Owd1Dl8ICAAJ;context-place=forum/bvparishat

[Nagaraj Paturi]

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/bvparishat/4h7jwWCvCjE/wO_When6sscJ;context-place=forum/bvparishat

[Nagaraj Paturi]

> Steps in Sandhyavandanam must be kept in ordered manner

kr̥ṣṇa yajurvēda saṁdhyāvaṁdana –Scheme

 

 

Main Divisions:

 

     I. pūrvakr̥tya-s-1

     II. pūrvakr̥tya-s-2

     III. arghya tarpaṇa-s

     IV. gāyatrī maṁtra japa

     V. anaṁtara kr̥tya-s

 

I. pūrvakr̥tya-s-1

    

     1. lāṁchana mārjana

     2. paurāṇika ācamana

     3. bhūtōcchāṭana

     4. prāṇāyāma

 

II. pūrvakr̥tya-s-2

 

     5. pradhāna saṁkalpa

     6. mārjana

     7. maṁtrācamana

     8. anaṁtara mārjana

     9. punaḥ mārjana

     10. aghamarṣaṇa (pāpa vimōcana) maṁtra

 

III. arghya tarpaṇa-s

   

      1. arghya pradāna (paurāṇika ācamanaṁ, prāṇāyāmaṁ, with upa saṁkalpa (1))

      2. pradakṣiṇa maṁtra (āditya brahmatva dhyāna ) 

       (dvirācamya , prāṇāyāma, paurāṇika ācamana) 

     3. saṁdhyāṁga tarpaṇa

   

IV. gāyatrī maṁtra japa

     

 

      1. maṁtra anubaṁdha-s

      2. āvāhana

      3. (paurāṇika ācamana, prāṇāyāma, upa saṁkalpa (2)) 

       4. aṁganyāsa

      5. karanyāsa  

      6. dhyāna

      7. japa

      8. japāvasāna

 

V. anaṁtara kr̥tya-s

   

 

1. upasthāna-s:

      

        a. sūryōpasthāna maṁtra

        b. brahmōpasthāna maṁtra-s

   

2. namaskāra-s:

       

        a. digdēvatā namaskāra-s

        b. muni namaskāra-s

        c. saṁdhyā dēvatā namaskāra-s

        d. īśvara dhyāna

   

 3. gāyatrī  udvāsana (prasthāna)

    

4. farewell namaskāra-s:

        

        a. bhagava nnamaskāra

        b. bhū myākāśādi vaṁdana-s

 

5. gōtra nāma pūrvaka abhivādana

 

 

6. brahmārpaṇa   

[sunil bhattacharjya]

Namaste,

As regards Gayatrijapam, to my knowledge, if avahana is done everytime, the visarjana also has to be done everytime, otherwise avahana may not be needed every time. Further, for many, the  Gayatri is an ajapa mantra, in the sense that Gayatri is recited at any time of the day beyond the scheduled trisandhya japas.

Secondly, some people recite the Gayatri-Shapa Vimochana mantra. before or after the gayatri japam. To my understanding, it is to remind the reciters that Gayatri is for spiritual upliftment and one should not try to use its powers for breaking the laws of nature or for using that to harm others. 

Regards,

Sunil KB

[Jaya Prakash]

Hello Raj,

Kindly purchase Daily Practice of the Hindus, by Sris Chandra Vasu [https://www.amazon.com/Practice-Hindus-Containing-Morning-Midday/dp/8121505380] In this book complete details is been told.

[Venkata Sriram]

Namaste,

Commentary by कृष्ण पण्डित​ can be downloaded from the below link.  It is compilation of various commentaries on sandhya by name सन्ध्याभाष्यसमुच्चयः

.................

https://archive.org/details/sandhybhshyasamu00sand

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regs,

Sriram

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[Nagaraj Paturi]

Thanks for the download link, Sriram.

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[Madhva Raj]

Thankyou sir for your links. But i have doubts in the order of performing step by step. Does any body have step by step index of Rigvediya Sandhyavandanam.

[Nagaraj Paturi]

Did you browse for rigveda sandhyavandanam?

Numerous pdf and other forms of documents are available. 

[विश्वासो वासुकेयः]

आर्य नागराज,
श्रुतिविहिते ऽस्मिन् सन्ध्यावन्दनकर्मणि कुतः सङ्गच्छति स्मार्तं वा पौराणिकं वाचमनम् इति कौतूहलम् …
तत्र वर्तन्ते पौराणिकांशा इति वा?

सोमवार, 13 मार्च 2017 को 11:33:14 पूर्व UTC-7 को, Nagaraj Paturi ने लिखा:

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[Nagaraj Paturi]

Aarya Vishvaasa,

 The name PuraaNa or PauraaNika aachamanam has been being used in reference to aachamanam done along with the recitation of the 24 naamas of Bhagavaan. The reason probably is that at least some of the names in the list are not found in the Veda, but are found in the Puranas. 

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[विश्वासो वासुकिजः (Vishvas Vasuki)]

2017-03-15 19:30 GMT-07:00 Nagaraj Paturi <nagara...@gmail.com>:

 The name PuraaNa or PauraaNika aachamanam has been being used in reference to aachamanam done along with the recitation of the 24 naamas of Bhagavaan. The reason probably is that at least some of the names in the list are not found in the Veda, but are found in the Puranas. 

आर्यमिश्र

​, सुविदित एव पौराणिकाचमन-श्रौताचमन-भेदः।​ अत्र कर्मणि पौराणिकाचमनस्यौचित्य एव प्रश्नः …

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[Hardik Joshi (हार्दिक जोशी)]

What is the significance of performing 24+8 Gayatri Mudras. What Bhav should be in our mind while performing

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[Nagaraj Paturi]

Dear Sri Vishvasji,

A huge amount of our current practices have such admixtures. They have Vedic origins. But employ a big number of Puranic/Agamic elements. There is no question of auchitya or anauchitya in this. That is the beauty of what is being called as 'Hindu' tradition. 

Arya Samaj which wanted to revert back to the 'original', 'pure' Vedic tradition, 'cleaned'  these rituals by removing the Puranic / Agamic elements from them. There is an Arya Samaj version of Sandhya Vandanam also. You may see here. They use only Veda mantras. 

One may want to go for such reformations from time to time. 

But the 'mainstream' 'Hinduism' remains Purana/ Agama amalgamated. 

The dhyaana s'lokas such as Muktavidruma or Dhyeyassadaa also are not from the Veda. 

As long as these elements do not disturb the spirit of the ritual, I don't see any anauchitya in this. 

 

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[Nagaraj Paturi]

> What is the significance of performing 24+8 Gayatri Mudras. What Bhav should be in our mind while performing.

------ This is a very good question, worth researching. 

The number of mudras being 24 and the number of syllable also being 24 must have some basis. 

The number 8 too is interesting because 24 is its multiple. 

I saw a video in which an American teacher is seen performing 24 mudras for 24 syllables one mudra along with the pronunciation of each syllable. 

https://youtu.be/3O9kaTV45Oo

That appears to make sense. 

That meanings of names of mudras have nothing to do with the meaning they communicate is obvious.

But do all these mudras together  'communicate' a meaning? or each of these is a tool for Yogic effects (in the Saadhaka)? 

We need to find out. The answer seems to lie hidden somewhere. 

May Vedamaataa reveal it sooner than later. 

[Nagaraj Paturi]

I just found 

https://youtu.be/RsPPEE4iHvI

[Hardik Joshi (हार्दिक जोशी)]

Many thanks ...

Probably the following will be interesting :

https://viraktimat.wordpress.com/tag/gayatri/

Regards

[Venkata Sriram]

Joshi ji,

जपादौ न्यास मुद्रादिकं कुर्वन्ति केचित । तत्तु न वैदिक कर्माङगं; किन्तु आगमशास्त्रानुसारेण गायत्री उपासकानां मन्त्र सन्ध्याङ्गं । तत्तु आवश्यकता न भवति । किन्तु तेन कृते अभ्युदयः , अकृते न जपादि कर्म वैगुण्यं मिति लभ्यते .....says कृष्ण पण्डितः

The न्यास and मुद्रा are not vaidika and it’s omission doesn't lead to pratyavAya dosha; however performance leads to abhyudaya.  

I am learning कृष्णयजुर्वेदः (तैत्तिरीय शाखा) from the illustrious lineage of Kuppa family (Brahmasri Kuppa Lakshmavadhani Garu aka Sri. Janardanananda Saraswathi Swamiji). Neither our vedic teacher nor paramapujya Kuppa Lakshmavadhani garu did mudrApradarshana in sandhya.  As per them, even nyAsa is also not required which is tAntrika.  

With the mantra "आयातु वरदा.....", the AvAhana is established and with the mantra "उत्तमे शिखरे...." upasthAna is established.  There is no pratyavAya dosha in omssion.

regs,

sriram  

[Hardik Joshi (हार्दिक जोशी)]

Dear Sriramji,

Many thanks...

Probably, mudras might have included to practice the presence of Deity during Sandhya vandanam in external form. I belong to the lineage of Shukla Yajurveda (Madhyandini Shakha) and the sandhya vandanam seems to be bit different from Krishna Yajurveda form.

I am not a Sanskrit scholar and always depend on texts authored by others like Sw. Dayananda Saraswati or Pt. Ram Sharma Acharya to perform Sandhya vandanam.

It seems that you are a scholar of Sanskrit... I would encourage the members of this group to author texts for layman like us regarding Vedic / Puranic worship procedures... We can publish it online...

Best Regards,

Hardik Joshi

Asst. Professor (Comp. Sc)

Gujarat Univ.

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[Raghavender Upadhyayula]

Respected Sriram garu,

Thanks for the clarification. I heard the same in Sandhyavandana Bhashyam.

regards,

Raghu

Best Regards,

Raghavender

2017-03-16 10:52 GMT+05:30 Venkata Sriram <srira...@gmail.com>:

[Venkata Sriram]

Joshiji,

The mudras are exclusively used only during गायत्री पुरश्चरणं which is explicitly done and not as a part of sandhyavandana.  गायत्री पुरश्चरण प्रयोग विधि mentions this.

regs,

sriram

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[Madhva Raj]

Yes Sir the bhavana is important in Sandhyavandana. How to do each step with a particular bhavana (imagination ). Because numerous texts are available on how to do and with meanings , but not how to meditate with bhav.

Main Divisions:	bhavana(imagination)

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[Madhva Raj]

Scholars please reply.

[ajit.gargeshwari]

I perform Sandhya Vandana observing as thought by my father and my father performs seeing how my grandfather performed. That is the best and an ideal way to learn rituals. If that is not possibleone should learn and see how ones Guru or other members in one family performs and learn. If that is followed there will be no confusion or doubts. Questions arises if only one wants to modify.

Editions of Rigvediya Sandhyavandana are available at archives and DLi websites.

As suggested on BVP home page it would be a good idea to search the web before asking for books as that will save time for all

Regards
Ajit Gargeshwari

[विश्वासो वासुकिजः (Vishvas Vasuki)]

2017-03-17 3:51 GMT-07:00 Madhva Raj <gstm...@gmail.com>:

Yes Sir the bhavana is important in Sandhyavandana. How to do each step with a particular bhavana (imagination ). Because numerous texts are available on how to do and with meanings , but not how to meditate with bhav.

उचितमिदं

​ भवतोक्तम्। किञ्चार्थे ज्ञाते भावना भवति ननु स्पष्टतयाङ्कुरिता​ प्रायेण। तथा चार्घ्यप्रदाने यथा सन्ति ब्राह्मणानि [१]। एतैः किं दृश्यं कल्पनीयङ् कर्त्रा भावुकेनेति ज्ञायत ईषत् - यद्यप्य् अन्ततो गत्वा साधकस्य प्रयत्नेन सङ्गता प्रतिभैवाविष्कुर्याद् ध्वनिपरम्परागतभावनाः कर्मणः।

​[१]​ - "रक्षांसि हवा पुरोनुवाके तपोग्रमतिष्ठन्त। तान्प्रजापतिर्वरेणोपामन्त्रयत। तानि वरमवृणीताऽऽदित्यो नो योद्धा इति। तान्प्रजापतिरब्रवीद्योधयध्वमिति। तस्मादुत्तिष्ठन्तं हवा तानि रक्षांस्यादित्यं योधयन्ति। यावदस्तमन्वगात्तानि ह वा एतानि रक्षांसि गायत्रियाऽभिमन्त्रितेनाम्भसा शाम्यन्ति-, इति । तदु ह वा एते ब्रह्मवादिनः पूर्वाभिमुखाः संध्यायां गायत्रियाऽभिमन्त्रिता आप ऊर्ध्वं विक्षिपन्ति। ता एता आपो वज्रीभूत्वा तानि रक्षांसि मन्देहारुणे द्वीपे प्रक्षिपन्ति-, इति । यत्प्रदक्षिणं प्रक्रमन्ति तेन पाप्मानमवधुन्वन्ति-, इति । उद्यन्तमस्तं यन्तमादित्यमभिध्यायन्कुर्वन्ब्राह्मणो विद्वान्त्सकलं भद्रमश्नुतेऽसावादित्यो ब्रह्मेति-, इति । ब्रह्मैव सन्ब्रह्माप्येति य एवं वेद ।। २ ।।, इति । इति कृष्णयजुर्वेदीयतैत्तिरीयारण्यके द्वितीयप्रपाठके द्वितीयोऽनुवाकः" [https://archive.org/stream/taittiriya/taittiriya_aranyaka_bhaskara_01#page/n191/mode/2up ]

उपर्य् अर्घ्यप्रदानमन्तरा प्रदक्षिणक्रमणमपि निर्दिष्टं दृश्यते।​

परमन्येषाम्

​ अनुभवप्रेरितान्युत्तराणि प्रतीक्षे।​

[विश्वासो वासुकिजः (Vishvas Vasuki)]

2017-03-15 21:07 GMT-07:00 Nagaraj Paturi <nagara...@gmail.com>:

As long as these elements do not disturb the spirit of the ritual, I don't see any anauchitya in this. 

साध्वभिहितमत्र

​ धीमता। किञ्च सन्ध्यावन्दनस्य श्रौतत्वम् पौराणिकांशबाहुल्येन श्रौताचमनाकरणेन च निहितं स्यात् कर्तुश् चेतसीत्य् अनौचित्यस्य सन्देहः

[Nagaraj Paturi]

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Aarya Vishvas,

It is quite justified to use the pauranic information. Adi Shankara stressed on the importance of the  Pauranic information, as many shakhas of the Vedas have disappeared. 

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[Nagaraj Paturi]

Dear Madhavji, 

Someone seeking to know the bhaavanaa /anubhava aspect of the ritual itself is extremely heartening. I am glad to see you being keen in that direction.  

I shall share my understanding in that direction soon. 

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Madhva Raj <gstm...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Madhva Raj]

Hi Ajith ji,

I searched and got many PDF and documents which increased my confusion. Learning from others will not be as effective as from reading i think. 

Coming to questions yes i have many doubts on performing Sandhyavandnam with the proper Bhav .

I don't want to modify anything. 

My effort  is in Knowing the Standard Steps of Sandhyavandanam with reason to every step why in the hierarchy its there along with meaning and Bhav.

It is well known fact that nobody even in the same family will follow the same steps.

Also people will do according to their wish , someone ignores Marjana or Digdevatha namaskara etc and complete the ritual.

In my view we must have a standard for sandhyavandanam which is the core of Sanathana Dharma and Studies in Vedanta.

Coming to Saving time of Scholars i think no person in BVP gets disturbed when a अर्भक like me asks a question . They will feel more excited to teach me i think.

So please let me know the bhav of each and every step in the following format. for example.

Step(Mantra )

Bhav

Meaning

What is being done

"आयातु वरदा.....",			the AvAhana is established

"उत्तमे शिखरे...."			upasthAna is established

Thanks for your reply

Madhwa raj

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[Ajit Gargeshwari]

Sure all the best

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[Nagaraj Paturi]

Dear aayushmaan Madhwa Raj,

While I, as I already mentioned in my previous mail, appreciative of your keenness to know the spirit of a very important ritual, I would like to clarify to you that BVP is not a religious body authorized to standardize the Sandhyavandanam procedure and prescribe that standard procedure to all. 

Second point, rituals like Sandhyavandanam can be viewed from both from Vedanta or non-Vedanta perspectives. Each saadhaka may take one of those perspectives. Scholars can, if you are interested, know which perspective gives which meaning etc.

[Nagaraj Paturi]

typo:

Scholars can, if you are interested, help you know which perspective gives which meaning etc.

not

Scholars can, if you are interested, know which perspective gives which meaning etc.

[Madhva Raj]

Namasthe Ajith ji and Nagaraj ji

Thank you for comments.

I will come up with a detailed query on each topic.

Thankyou

Madhwa raj

[CG Krishnamurthi]

Sri. Madhavji,

Swami Paramarthananda saraswati had given 10 lectures on Sandhyavandanam few years back - each lecture is about 1 hour and various things such as Bhavana, etc. are touched upon in these lectures (lectures are in English - all are downloadable). You may be able to get some answers. Link below:

http://www.hinduonline.co/AudioLibrary/Discources/LectureonSandhyavandanamParamarthananda.html

Regards

Krishnamurthi

Researcher - Vriskayurveda 

Sure all the best

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On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 11:53 PM, ajit.gargeshwari <ajit.gar...@gmail.com> wrote:

I perform Sandhya Vandana observing as thought by my father and my father performs seeing how my grandfather performed. That is the best and an ideal way to learn rituals. If that is not possibleone should learn and see how ones Guru or other members in one family performs and learn. If that is followed there will be no confusion or doubts. Questions arises if only one wants to modify.

Editions of Rigvediya Sandhyavandana are available at archives and DLi websites.

As suggested on BVP home page it would be a good idea to search the web before asking for books as that will save time for all

Regards
Ajit Gargeshwari

On Tuesday, 14 March 2017 22:06:06 UTC+5:30, Gstmadhav .raj wrote:

Thankyou sir for your links. But i have doubts in the order of performing step by step. Does any body have step by step index of Rigvediya Sandhyavandanam.

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[Venkata Sriram]

Namaste,

To some extent, Brahmasri "vedapuruSa" Uppuluri Ganapati Sastry Garu has touched the sandhya aspect in his book "veda-sAra-ratnAvaLi" (vol. 1).  The link is below:

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http://www.vedamu.org/PageViewerImage.aspx?DivId=1729

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regs,

sriram

[Madhva Raj]

Thank you sirs.

For your valuable suggestions.

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[Nagaraj Paturi]

I just found the book that I have been trying to locate in my collection, since this thread was started. The book is, " The Spiritual Significance of Sandhyakaram (Rituals)" by Y. Subbaraya Sharma. (1971).  Seems to be self-publication.

Address;

30, Sampige Road, Malleswaram, Bangalore-3 

or 

Sri D S Krishnakumar,

35, Sampige Road, Malleswaram, Bangalore-3