Jnana Iccha Kriya

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Ajay Gupta

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Aug 10, 2010, 12:57:52 AM8/10/10
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Dear all,
Can someone please help me to find where in the Shastras (yoga/ vedanta/ sankhya or others) I can find the concept of Jnana- Iccha- Kriya as sub-powers of Vikshepa Shakti? or as the components of any action?

Many thanks, Ajay.

ముక్కు శ్రీరాఘవకిరణ్ శర్మ

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Aug 10, 2010, 1:33:37 AM8/10/10
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नमस्ते

I am only aware of the name इच्छाशक्ति-ज्ञानशक्ति-क्रियाशक्ति-स्वरूपिणी attributed to Goddess Lalita in Her thousand names, as told in the Brahmanda Purana.

विद्वद्विधेयः
राघवः

Ganesan

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Aug 10, 2010, 7:14:45 AM8/10/10
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Sri Ajay Gupta wants to know more about Icchasakti, etc.
I am not sure whether these are the aspects of Vikshepasakti which, if I am right, is an aspect of Maya as conceived by the Advaita Vedanta (probably later than Samkara). Moreover, Maya is illusory and it is not conceived to be a supreme power of non-dual Brahma. For one of the fundamental arguments of Saivasiddhanta against Advaita Vedanta (ref. Samkarabhashya on the Brahmasutra-s, adhyaya 1)  is that the supreme reality being Consciousness Absolute (Cit) It cannot have an inert power (acit=jada).
Cf. Mrgendragama, (vidyapada), 3: 4 : करणं च न शक्त्यन्यत् शक्तिर्नाचेतना चितः ।
In the Saivasiddhanta Agama-s the supreme power (Sakti) of Siva is mainly conceived to be of three aspects: Iccha, Jnana and Kriya. In the Mrgendragama (vidyapada) and in its commentary by Narayanakantha as well as in the sub-commentary of Aghorasivacharya we find the explanations of these aspects of Sakti.
I hope I have just answered the query.
With the best wishes,
Ganesan
Senior Researcher in Saivasiddhanta
French Institute of Pondicherry
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अथ चेत्त्वमिमं धर्म्यं संग्रामं न करिष्यसि।
ततः स्वधर्मं कीर्तिं च हित्वा पापमवाप्स्यसि।।
तस्मादुत्तिष्ठ कौन्तेय युद्धाय कृतनिश्चयः।
निराशीर्निर्ममो भूत्वा युध्यस्व विगतज्वरः।। (भ.गी.)

Ajay Gupta

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Aug 10, 2010, 7:47:33 AM8/10/10
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Respected Sir,
Thank you for your answer, do the books you have mentioned-  Mrgendragama and in its commentary by Narayanakantha as well as in the sub-commentary of Aghorasivacharya have an English translation?
with regards,
Ajay.

2010/8/10 Ganesan <gan...@ifpindia.org>

Dr. S. Ramakrishna Sharma

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शक्त्यै शक्ताय च नम: ,
"ते ध्यानयोगानुगता: अपश्यन् देवात्मशक्तिं स्वगुणै: निगूढाम्" मन्त्रो ह्येष श्वेताश्वतरोपनिशत्प्रसिद्ध
आत्मशक्तिं सूचयति । या सत्वगुनप्रधाना सा ब्रह्मविद्या (सैव उमा हैमवती केनोपनिशत्प्रसिद्धा ।),
रजोगुणप्रधाना जगत्सवित्री । तमोगुणप्रधाना आवरणरूपा अविद्या इति प्रक्रियासु ज्ञेया । 
--
Aangirasa/Dr.S.Ramakrishna Sharma. M.A.,Ph.D.(Eng.Lit.),Ph.D.(Sanskrit.).

Ganesan

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Unfortunately no.
But there is a French translation of them published long back by the French Institute, Pondicherry.
With the best wishes,
Ganesan
 

sadasivamurty rani

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प्रियविद्वत्सुहृद्भ्य: अजय्गुप्तमहोदयेभ्य: साभिनन्दनं शक्तित्रयाणां विषये विलिख्यते।
इच्छा - क्रिया - ज्ञानशक्तीनां प्रचुरप्रचार: शाक्तेयतन्त्रेषु, शैवागमेषु विस्तरेण दृश्यते।
दृश्यमानं जगदिदं षट् त्रिंशत्तत्त्वात्मकमिति शाक्तॆयं मतम्। तत्र परमशिवत: पृथिवीपर्यन्तेषु षट्त्रिंशत्तत्त्वेषु शिव:, शक्तिश्च शिवतत्त्वमितिनाम्ना व्यवह्रियेते। शुद्धविद्या, ईश्वर:, सदाशिवश्चेति तत्त्वत्रयस्य विद्यातत्त्वमिति व्यवहार: माया, पञ्चकञ्चुकानि (अविद्या, कला, राग: काल:, नियति:),
पुरुष: (जीव:), प्रकृति:, मन:, बुद्धि:, अहङ्कार:, पञ्चज्ञानेन्द्रियाणि, पञ्च कर्मेन्द्रियाणि, रूपादिविषयपञ्चकम्, पञ्चभूतानि आत्मतत्त्वमिति कथ्यन्ते।
तत्र सॄष्टिविकासे आद्य तत्त्वत्रयस्य (शिव - शक्ति - सदाशिवाख्यतत्त्वत्रयस्य) साधनत्रयमेव इच्छा - क्रिया - ज्ञानशक्तित्रयम्।
"य़दयमनुत्तरमूर्तिर्निजेच्छयाऽखिलमिदं जगत्स्रष्टुम्।
स्पन्दते स्पन्द: प्रथम: शिवतत्त्वमुच्यते तज्ज्ञै:" - षट्त्रिंशत्तत्त्वसन्दोहे।
सृष्टेरुन्मुखावस्थायां निर्गुणस्य अनुत्तरमूर्ते: परमशिवस्य प्रथमस्पन्दनमेव शिवतत्त्वमिति आद्यं तत्त्वमुच्यते।
सृष्ट्यादौ स्वरूपाव्स्थितस्य परमशिवस्य "बहुस्यां प्रजायेय" इति सिसृक्षाविर्भावमात्रेण तस्य रूपद्वयं भवति। शिवरूपं, शक्तिरूपं च। तादृशस्य शिवस्य विश्वसिसृक्षाशक्तिरेव शक्तितत्त्वमिति अभिधीयते।
अहं बहुभवेयमिति शिवगतभावनया एव इच्छाशक्तेरुदयो भवति। इच्छाशक्तित: ज्ञानशक्ति: तत: क्रियाशक्तिश्च जायते। एतत् शक्तित्रयस्य सहयोगेनैव अंकुरच्छाया इव युगपदर्थसृष्टि: शब्दसृष्टिश्च आरभ्येते। स्थितावस्मिऩ् शिव: प्रकाशरूपी, शक्तिर्विमर्शरूपिणी। पूर्णोऽहं कृत्रिमोऽहमित्यस्य स्पूर्तिरेव विमर्शशब्दग्राह्यो भवति। स्पूर्तिरियं सृष्टिकाले विश्वाकारा, स्थितिकाले विश्वप्रकाशा, प्रलयकाले च विश्वसंहरणरूपाऽभवत्। विमर्शेन प्रकाशानुभवो जायते, प्रकाशस्थितौ च विमर्शस्य कल्पना सम्भवति। एवंविधौ शिव:, शक्तिश्च परस्पराश्लिष्टौ। अत एव -
"न शिवेन विना देवी न देव्या च विना शिव:।
नानयोरन्तरं किंचिच्चन्द्रचन्द्रिकयो रिव॥" इत्यागमेषूच्यते।
एवंविधात् सृष्ट्युन्मुखशक्तितत्त्वाज्जायते "सदाशिवतत्त्वम्" एतस्यैव "सादाख्यतत्वम्" इति व्यवहारोऽपि वर्तते।
"स्वेच्छाशक्त्युद्गीर्णं जगदात्मतया समासाद्य।
निवसन् निखिलानुग्रहनिरत: सदशिवोऽभिहित:॥" - षट्त्रिंशत्तत्त्वसन्दोहे ३श्लोक:।
अत्रोक्तक्रमेण परमशिवस्य इच्छाशक्तित: समुद्भूतं जगद्यॆनाहंरूपेण समाच्छाद्य व्यवस्थीयते तदेव निखिलजगत: अनुग्रहनिरतं "सदाशिव"तत्त्वम् इत्यभिहितम्। शक्तित्रितयसम्पन्नमिदं (इच्छा - ज्ञान - क्रियाशक्तित्रययुक्तम्) सदाशिवतत्त्वम्। अस्यैव पूर्णाहन्ता अथवा पराहन्ता इति व्यवहारोऽपि वर्तते। अनेन प्रकारेण इच्छा - ज्ञान - क्रियाशक्तित्रयं परमशिवस्याद्यस्पन्दन्दनात् जातमिति विश्वप्रकटनसाधनं भवतीति च अवगम्यते।
एतस्मिऩ् विषये विस्तरेण ज्ञातुं श्रीललितासहस्रनामावल्या: भास्कररायव्याख्याने, श्रीभट्टनारायणव्याख्याने, श्रीकामकळाविलासे, श्रीमृगेन्द्रतन्त्रे, षट्त्रिंशत्तत्त्वसन्दोहे तदितरशाक्तेय-शैवागमग्रन्थेषु च द्रष्टुं शक्यते इति निवेदयऩ् विरमति
बुधजनविधेय:,
राणि सदाशिवमूर्ति:।
Dr. Rani Sadasiva Murty


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From: Ajay Gupta <ajay...@gmail.com>
Subject: {भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत्} Jnana Iccha Kriya

Ganesan

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प्रियविदुषा राणि सदाशिवमूर्तिना शक्तित्रयविषयं त्रिक-प्रत्यभिज्ञाशास्त्रानुसारं लेशतया प्रतिपादितम् ।
परंतु शैवसिद्धान्तशास्त्रे मुख्यस्थलेष्वत्र भेदाः वर्तन्ते ।
मृगेन्द्रागमतद्व्याख्यानयोः पौष्करागमादिषु तत्त्वप्रकाश-तत्त्वसङ्ग्रहादिप्रकरणग्रन्थेषु च इच्छाज्ञानक्रियाशक्तीनां विषये विस्तरशः प्रतिपादनं लभ्यते ।
ललितासहस्रनामव्याख्यानादयः प्रायेण प्रत्यभिज्ञादर्शनमेवावलम्बन्ते त्रिपुरासम्प्रदायस्य तन्मूलकत्वात् इति यत्किञ्चित् ।
 
शिवज्ञानसेवको
गणेशः
 
Senior Researcher in Saivasiddhanta
French Institute of Pondicherry
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Ganesan

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या सत्वगुनप्रधाना सा ब्रह्मविद्या (सैव उमा हैमवती केनोपनिशत्प्रसिद्धा ।),
रजोगुणप्रधाना जगत्सवित्री । तमोगुणप्रधाना आवरणरूपा अविद्या इति प्रक्रियासु ज्ञेया । 
 
उपर्युक्तस्य विषयस्य प्रमाणं किमिति मम जिज्ञासा।
 
गणेशः

Ganesan

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To state further on the three aspects of Sakti:
 
Basically these three are the different aspects of Siva's Sakti which is unique. It is differently called depending upon its different activities.
Cf. Mrgendragama, (Vidyapada), 13: 166b
कृत्यभेदोपचारेण तद्भेदस्थानभेदजः ।
Also we find in the Ratnatraya of Srikantha: 276
सर्वज्ञानक्रियारूपा शक्तिरेका हि शूलिनः ।
इच्छाज्ञानक्रियाद्या यत्प्रभवाः कार्ययोनयः ।।
Srikumara one of the earliest commentators on the Tattvaprakasa of Bhojadeva states that
पराशक्तिविकारा इच्छाद्याः शक्तयः परमेश्वरस्य करणं हस्तादिस्थानीयम् ।
Siva being inseparable from His supreme Sakti and united with Her Kriya aspect He is the supreme cause of everything, as Srikantha continues in his text:
सेयं क्रियात्मिका शक्तिः शिवस्याव्यभिचारिणी ।
तत्सम्बन्धाच्छिवोशेषकार्याणां हेतुरुच्यते ।। Ratnatraya, 278
These three aspects of Sakti are Siva's three eyes: See the poetic description given in the Ratnatraya.
दृक्क्रियेच्छाविशालाक्षो विज्ञानेन्दुकलान्वितः । Ratnatraya, 281a
Though Siva and His Sakti are non-different and exist in an inseparable relation She is sometimes explained to be different from Him:
 अनन्यापि तथा शम्भोर्विभिन्ना शक्तिरिष्यते । Ratnatraya, 303b
अनन्यापि विभिन्नातः शम्भोः सा समवायिनी । Ratnatraya, 304b
Apart from these views there is another very fundamental point in the Saivasiddhanta: Sakti serves as the 'body' of Siva. In fact as the Mrgendragama Vp. 3:8a beautifully describes,
 मूलाद्यसम्भवात् शाक्तं वपुः
Narayanakantha comments that the five mantra-s, Sadyojata, Vamadeva, Aghora, Tatpurusha and Isana are in fact His Sakti and serve as His body: शक्तिस्वरूपैः सद्योजातादिभिः पञ्चभिर्मन्त्रैः स्वेच्छानिर्मितं . . . अनुपममभिमतं शरीरम् ।
In the Rauravagama we have other views. There these three aspects are identified with Vama, Jyeshtha, Raudri who are worshipped as part of various rituals.
Srikantha (different from the author of Ratnatraya referred above) in his bhashya on the Brahmasutra-s mentions that the supreme Akasa, which he calls Cidakasa, Cidambara, and which is none other than His Sakti is the body of Siva.
These are a few important points on the concept of Sakti according to Saivasiddhanta which is not shared by the Trika-Pratyabhijna system.
 
With the best wishes,
Ganesan
Senior Researcher in Saivasiddhanta
French Institute of Pondicherry
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Subject: {भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत्} Jnana Iccha Kriya

Dear all,
Can someone please help me to find where in the Shastras (yoga/ vedanta/ sankhya or others) I can find the concept of Jnana- Iccha- Kriya as sub-powers of Vikshepa Shakti? or as the components of any action?

Many thanks, Ajay.

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Ajay Gupta

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Revered Scholars, Shri Dr. Ganeshan, Dr. Shivamurti Rani, Dr.S.Ramakrishna Sharma and msrkiran,
Pranams!
you have given me allot of material and so much information, and I am grateful to you all for that. now I have to learn and understand it properly.
Thank you for sharing with me your vast knowledge.
Be blessed this forum for giving us this opportunity to get the advice of great scholars.
Ajay.


2010/8/11 Ganesan <gan...@ifpindia.org>

Veeranarayana Pandurangi

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here the words of Veeraraghavacharya in Nyayakusumanjali vistara
तत्रप्रवृत्तिः कृतिर्यत्न एव। सा च साक्षादिच्छाजन्या। इच्छा च ज्ञानात्। तत्र यद्विषयं ज्ञानमिच्छाजनकं स विषय एव विधिर्लिङाद्यर्थ इति केचित्।

2010/8/11 Ajay Gupta <ajay...@gmail.com>



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Veeranarayana N.K. Pandurangi
Head, Dept of Darshanas,
Yoganandacharya Bhavan,
Jagadguru Ramanandacharya Rajasthan Samskrita University, Madau, post Bhankrota, Jaipur, 302026.


अथ चेत्त्वमिमं धर्म्यं संग्रामं न करिष्यसि।

Veeranarayana Pandurangi

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it is udayana in Nyayakusumanjali
 pravtti ktirevātra, sā cecchato, yataśca sā /
tajj
ñānam, viayastasya vidhistajjñāpako 'thavā //5-7 //

2010/8/12 Veeranarayana Pandurangi <veer...@gmail.com>

Ajay Gupta

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Thank you very much! this is also very helpful!

I read on something that sounds similar- process of ज्ञान- चिकीर्षा- प्रवृत्ति- चेष्टा- कार्य  as the process which forms action. (I thought it was similar before, before receiving all your learned answers, but now I am not sure if it is connected to jnana-iccha-kriya)
I would like to ask the great scholars where can I find more about this process ज्ञान- चिकीर्षा- प्रवृत्ति- चेष्टा- कार्य I am looking specially for original scriptures  or traditional commentators.
Thanking you all,
Ajay.

2010/8/12 Veeranarayana Pandurangi <veer...@gmail.com>

subrahmanyam korada

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namo vidvadbhyah
 
The origin of  JnAna - Iccha - KriyA  Saktayah , can be traced to SvetAsvataropanisad --
 
te dhyAnayogAnugatA apasyan devAtmasaktim svagunairnigUdhAm (1-3) .
(in SutrabhAsyam this is  quoted by SankarAcArya , CamasAdhikaranam ,1-4-9)
 
mAyAm tu prakrtim vidyAt mAyinam tu maheswaram (4-10) , SutrabhAsyam, AnumAnikAdhikaranam, 1-4-3 .
 
na tasya kAryam karanam ca  vidyate na tatsamascAbhyadhikasca drsyate I
parAsya saktirvividhaiva sarUyate svAbhAvikI jnAnabalakriyA ca II (6-8)
SUtrabhAsyam (UpasamhAradarsanAdhikaranam, 2-1-24) -- paripUrnasaktikam tu brahma ... tasmAdekasyApi brahmano vicitrasaktiyogAt ksIrAdivat vicitraparinAma  upapadyate (note : for  Sankara  both Vivarta and ParinAma are one and the same ) .
 
SAnkarabhAsyam on SvetAsvatara - " jnAnakriyA sarvavisayajnAnapravrttih, balakriyA
svasamnidhimAtrena sarvam vasIkrtya niyamanam .
 
saktayo yasya devasya brahmavisnusivAtmikAh I
brahmavisnusivA brahman pradhAnA brahmasaktayah II" (VisnupurAnam ?)
 
In this context Sankara explains Sakti , quoting BrAhmapurAnam .
 
In TaittirIyopanisadbhAsya , while commenting on BrahmAnandavallI , VidyAranya quotes
the last three lines of SvetAsvatara and says - ' na khalu saktih kvacidapi svAsrayamullnghya svatantrAvatisthate , atah saktirUpAyA mAyAyA yatprakrtitvam tadeva brahmanassaktimatah prakrtitvam .
 
' JnAnabalakriyA ' - is taken as - jnAnakriyA and balakriyA by SankarAcArya .
 
Before  going to Tantra one should note that  TAntrkas propose Siva associated with
Sakti (sivassaktyA yuktah ..) , just like Brahma with MAyA . They extensively quote from Upanisads, Vedangas, Darsanas etc. to prove their point .
 
TAntrkas quote the above SvetAsvatara line , i.e. svAbhAvikI jnAnabalakriyA ca , and comment  as three Saktis --
 
NityAsodasikArnava (of VAmakesvaratantra) - VsrAmah 4 , Sloka 10 & 11 --
 
esA sA paramA saktirekaiva paramesvarI I
 tripurA trividhA devi brahmavisnvIsarUpinI II
jnAnasaktih kriyAsaktiricchAsaktyAtmikA priye I
 trailokyam samsrjatyesA tripurA parikIrtyate II
 
Here is Setubandha commentary of BhAskararAya - vAmA-jyesthA - raudrya eva pumvesenAvistA brahma-visnu-rudrA bhavanti . tacchaktibhUtA bhAratI - prthivI - rudrAnya eva jnAnecchAkriyA ityucyante . kartrtvaghatikA apyetA eva tisrah . taduktam --
 
icchAtvam tasya sA devI sisrksoh pratipadyate I
evdetaditi jneyam nAnyatheti suniscayam II
jnApayantI jhatityantarjnAnasaktirnigadyate I
evambhUtamidam vastu bhavatviti yathA punah I
jnAtA tadeva tadvastu kurvityatra kriyocyate II
 
iti MAlinIvijayatantre I svAbhAvikI jnAnabalakriyA ceti srutirapi I atra balam iccheti tadvyAkhyAtArah I etAstisro'pi svabhAva eva na tato bhinnA ityarthah .
 
NityAso. (17 & 18) proposes that PrakrtividyA is not different from TripurasundarI or SrIvidyA --
vAgIsvarI jnAnasaktirvAgbhave moksarUpinI i
kAmarAje kAmakalA kAmarUpA kriyAtmikA II
saktibIje parA saktiricchaiva sivarUpinI I
evam devI tryaksrI tu mahAtripurasundarI II
 
In the commentary on Navayonicakra ( sloka 12,13,14) Bhaskararaya explains -
, vAmAjyesthAraudrIsamastirambikAsaktih , idamupalaksanam icchA-jnAna-kriyasamasteh sAntAyAh pasyantImadhyamAvaikharIsamasteh parAyA api --
icchAsaktistadAseyam pasyantI vapusA sthitA I
jnAnasaktistathA jyesthA madhyamA vAgudIritA (38)
kriyAsaktistu raudrIyam vaikhary visvavigrahA (40)
icchAsaktimayam pAsamamkusam jnAnarUpinam I
kriyAsaktimaye banadhanusI dadhadujjvalam (53) .
 
Setu  - icchAyA eva AsA-trsnA-rAgAdiparyAyatvena bandhasAdhanatvAt pasurUpatA .
 
According to TantrarAjatantra the above three Saktis are to be worshipped in the corners
of the Triangle .
More details can be had from  other Tantra works .
 
dhanyo'smi
Prof.Korada Subrahmanyam
Professor of Sanskrit,
CALTS,
University of Hyderabad 500046
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