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Paul Sullivan

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May 17, 2017, 5:18:24 AM5/17/17
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Thanks goes to my friend Kate for this. I am not sure if we
have seen this project before, but the article is very
recent.

The device sounds a bit like an Optacom that produces
braille instead of raised print. Obviously it is more
complicated, because it involves a translation stage. I
think there was a French device that could do this some time
ago, though I forget what it was called and I never tried
one. Does anyone know about it?

Hear is the link to the project:

http://ow.ly/Qda330bJFzX

Paul

Steve Nutt

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May 17, 2017, 5:20:01 AM5/17/17
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Hi paul,

The French product was called Top-Braille. I quite liked it, and in fact, I read faster with it than the lady who demonstrated it to me <Smile>.

I don't know if it still exists though.

All the best

Steve
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Paul Sullivan

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May 17, 2017, 5:56:20 AM5/17/17
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Hi Steve,

Thanks for that.

When did you see it? I imagine it used a flat bed scanner
rather than a camera. Is that right?

I have a vague idea the machine I heard about was called the
Delta, but I am really not sure, it was so long ago. In the
80's I think. Have you come across a machine called a Delta?

Paul
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Steve Nutt

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May 17, 2017, 6:05:04 AM5/17/17
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Nope, completely wrong. <Smile>.

It was in the same of a computer mouse pretty much and had a camera in the bottom. It had one Braille cell and as you ran it over the paper, if you kept straight, it would translate a single letter it saw into Braille. So no Grade 2 or anything like that, but it worked.
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Paul Sullivan

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May 17, 2017, 6:12:34 AM5/17/17
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Chris McMillan

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May 17, 2017, 7:23:03 AM5/17/17
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Your friend Kate beat me to it.  £66 in today's exchange.  €89.


On Wednesday, 17 May 2017, Paul Sullivan <pdsul...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Thanks goes to my friend Kate for this. I am not sure if we have seen this project before, but the article is very recent.

The device sounds a bit like an Optacom that produces braille instead of raised print. Obviously it is more complicated, because it involves a translation stage. I think there was a French device that could do this some time ago, though I forget what it was called and I never tried one. Does anyone know about it?

Hear is the link to the project:

http://ow.ly/Qda330bJFzX

Paul

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Dave Williams

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May 17, 2017, 9:32:55 AM5/17/17
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Hi Paul et al

Thanks very much for sharing this.



I am pretty sure that various versions of the female student inventor project have been doing the rounds on tech news sites for a few months. What I rarely get from these articles is a clear and credible sense of what happens next or where blind braille readers like us can  try it out and provide feedback?

From Steve's description, I think I saw Top-Braille at Sight Village about 3 years ago. I found that moving my hand in a completely straight line across a page from left to right is easier said than done. Suspect I'm not alone in that? Has anyone heard anything about Top-Braille more recently?

All the best.

Dave W  
 

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Steve Bingham

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May 17, 2017, 12:05:12 PM5/17/17
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Hi

 

At least with the Optacon you could correct your scanning as soon as you noticed that the letters weren’t in the middle of the vibrating cell. This would be impossible if characters were being translated into Braille. I suppose it would just stop translating.

 

I don’t think I’d like to go back to anything as difficult as the Optacon for my main access to print.

 

I still have a working Optacon and do use it occasionally.

 

Steve

 

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Hi Paul et al

 

Thanks very much for sharing this.

 

 

 

I am pretty sure that various versions of the female student inventor project have been doing the rounds on tech news sites for a few months. What I rarely get from these articles is a clear and credible sense of what happens next or where blind braille readers like us can  try it out and provide feedback?

 

From Steve's description, I think I saw Top-Braille at Sight Village about 3 years ago. I found that moving my hand in a completely straight line across a page from left to right is easier said than done. Suspect I'm not alone in that? Has anyone heard anything about Top-Braille more recently?

 

All the best.

 

Dave W  

 

Sent from my iPhone


On 17 May 2017, at 12:23, Chris McMillan <chrismc...@gmail.com> wrote:

Your friend Kate beat me to it.  £66 in today's exchange.  €89.

 


On Wednesday, 17 May 2017, Paul Sullivan <pdsul...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Thanks goes to my friend Kate for this. I am not sure if we have seen this project before, but the article is very recent.

The device sounds a bit like an Optacom that produces braille instead of raised print. Obviously it is more complicated, because it involves a translation stage. I think there was a French device that could do this some time ago, though I forget what it was called and I never tried one. Does anyone know about it?

Hear is the link to the project:

http://ow.ly/Qda330bJFzX

Paul

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Apps Dean

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May 18, 2017, 3:17:57 AM5/18/17
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Hi Steve,

Hope all is well, we are having our sight loss event this year in July the 27th in Barking and would like to invite you to have a stand at the event, could you please let me know if it is something you could attend.

Thanks
Dean

Hi paul,

All the best

Steve

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Paul

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Steve Nutt

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May 18, 2017, 3:20:35 AM5/18/17
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Hi Dean,

Did you mean to send this to a public list? <Smile>.
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Apps Dean

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May 18, 2017, 3:38:09 AM5/18/17
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Hi Steve,

No did not know it would go public, still it is not a secret might help to premote the event in July, you did not say if you could man a stall at the event.

Hi Dean,

All the best

Steve

Hi Steve,

Thanks
Dean

Hi paul,

All the best

Steve

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On Wed, 17 May 2017, Dave Williams wrote:

> Hi Paul et al
>
> Thanks very much for sharing this.
>
>
>
> I am pretty sure that various versions of the female student inventor project have been doing the rounds on tech news sites for a few months. What I rarely get from these articles is a clear and credible sense of what happens next or where blind braille readers like us can try it out and provide feedback?
>
> From Steve's description, I think I saw Top-Braille at Sight Village about 3 years ago. I found that moving my hand in a completely straight line across a page from left to right is easier said than done. Suspect I'm not alone in that? Has anyone heard anything about Top-Braille more recently?
>
> All the best.
>
> Dave W
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 17 May 2017, at 12:23, Chris McMillan <chrismc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Your friend Kate beat me to it. £66 in today's exchange. €89.
>>
>>
>>> On Wednesday, 17 May 2017, Paul Sullivan <pdsul...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Thanks goes to my friend Kate for this. I am not sure if we have seen this project before, but the article is very recent.
>>>
>>> The device sounds a bit like an Optacom that produces braille instead of raised print. Obviously it is more complicated, because it involves a translation stage. I think there was a French device that could do this some time ago, though I forget what it was called and I never tried one. Does anyone know about it?
>>>
>>> Hear is the link to the project:
>>>
>>> http://ow.ly/Qda330bJFzX
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
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Laurent Cadet de Fontenay

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Fantastic, that sounds really exciting!

All best
Laurent


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