Secondary use of activation hotkey with modifier or key left pressed

[1.61803]

I can think of many uses for the activation hotkey where the modifier or key is left pressed +.3s — that would give us three modi, activation plus two others.

Improbably but, as of now, is this supported?

[1.61803]

I looked around if I could somehow achieve this with what's done.

Quicksilver User’s Guide, p 44

TODO: You can define combinations of triggers to do one operation on immediate press and a second on a press an hold. E.g., you can define ⌃⌘I to open your Inbox and a second ⌃⌘I trigger to Get New Mail if you hold it down for 2 seconds. (one key for mail, holding it checks for new mail and then opens it) You can also configure triggers that use two scripts, one on start, one on finish.

My activation hotkey is ⌘⎵ so if I set the same for a trigger with On Press selected and Hold for 1.0 s set I get mixed results.

After setting up the trigger each time I use this key combination it does something different

1. Launch Quicksilver service is started — although QS's already running

2. Run the trigger

3. Activation of QS's interface

n. It repeats 2. and 3 from there on

It gets even more quirky if I use On Release instead.

[Howard Melman]

As best I remember this stuff never quite worked reliably for me.

Howard

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[Rob McBroom]

On Thu Jun 27 2013 at 11:21:09, 1.61803 wrote:

Quicksilver User’s Guide, p 44

TODO: You can define combinations of triggers to do one operation on immediate press and a second on a press an hold. E.g., you can define ⌃⌘I to open your Inbox and a second ⌃⌘I trigger to Get New Mail if you hold it down for 2 seconds. (one key for mail, holding it checks for new mail and then opens it) You can also configure triggers that use two scripts, one on start, one on finish.

My activation hotkey is ⌘⎵ so if I set the same for a trigger with On Press selected and Hold for 1.0 s set I get mixed results.

1. A lot has probably changed since Howard wrote that. It may or may not still be true. I haven’t tried.

2. This might not apply to the activation shortcut. To be sure, I would try two actual triggers with the same shortcut (but different from the activation shortcut). If it works, assign something random that you’ll never use as the activation shortcut and then create a trigger using ⌘␣ that does something like “~ ⇥ Select in Command Window”.

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[1.61803]

On Thursday, June 27, 2013 9:00:12 PM UTC+2, Rob McBroom wrote:

1. A lot has probably changed since Howard wrote that. It may or may not still be true. I haven’t tried.

2. This might not apply to the activation shortcut. To be sure, I would try two actual triggers with the same shortcut (but different from the activation shortcut). If it works, assign something random that you’ll never use as the activation shortcut and then create a trigger using ⌘␣ that does something like “~ ⇥ Select in Command Window”.

As the quoted text said, it was a TODO. I never hoped it to work from the get-go. If I do 2. I lose the deactivation function with the same shortcut.

On Monday, June 24, 2013 5:36:53 PM UTC+2, 1.61803 wrote:

I can think of many uses for the activation hotkey where the modifier or key is left pressed +.3s — that would give us three modi, activation plus two others.

This and its extension to triggers would be I think a much useful feature — but again it's not top priority and maybe you devs don't even think the same way. That said, I do appreciate some feedback.

[Patrick Robertson]

> A lot has probably changed since Howard wrote that. It may or may not still be true. I haven’t tried it

I wasn't aware this was even possible on the past. It may have been, but it was broken. Check the release change log to see which version I fixed it on. Since you can assign multiple triggers to the same keys, I'd you do as Rob says you should be fine

[1.61803]

On Sunday, June 30, 2013 2:00:08 PM UTC+2, Patrick wrote:

I wasn't aware this was even possible on the past. It may have been, but it was broken. Check the release change log to see which version I fixed it on. Since you can assign multiple triggers to the same keys, I'd you do as Rob says you should be fine

Maybe the wording of my post is misleading.

I want to make two triggers mutually exclusive with the same hotkey but different pressing delay.

If I set trigger 1 and trigger 2 with the same shortcut but different delay value (e.g., 0.1 and 1 s respectively), as of now I'm able to run either t1 or t1 and 2 — but not t2 only.

[Patrick Robertson]

The info is in the change log as I said:

http://qsapp.com/changelog.php

It is only applicable for scoping of apps.

[1.61803]

On Sunday, June 30, 2013 3:58:03 PM UTC+2, Patrick wrote:

The info is in the change log as I said:

http://qsapp.com/changelog.php

It is only applicable for scoping of apps.

I guess you're refering to #1201. And that should work only for two triggers, same hotkey, same app — but not with scope all apps?

It doesn't work for me either with scope one app or scope all apps. OS X 10.8.4, QS b4000.

That means, the trigger with longer delay runs also the one with shorter or no value.

[1.61803]

On Sunday, June 30, 2013 4:27:51 PM UTC+2, 1.61803 wrote:

I guess you're refering to #1201. And that should work only for two triggers, same hotkey, same app — but not with scope all apps?

It doesn't work for me either with scope one app or scope all apps. OS X 10.8.4, QS b4000.

That means, the trigger with longer delay runs also the one with shorter or no value.

Is this feature not working for anyone? Can anyone give it a try so I can further pinpoint what's not working? TIA