BeagleBoard-X15 - Are you really going to release such monster? :)
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No announcement, pictures, or price. I'm sure Gerald will comment when he sees fit.
http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/11/07/beagleboard-x15-development-board-to-feature-ti-sitara-am5728-dual-core-cortex-a15-processor/
On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:05:13 +0300
Maxim Podbereznyy <lisa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey guys!
>
> BeagleBoard-X15 <http://www.elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoard-X15> -
> Are you really going to release such monster? :)
Beagleboard-x15, the nexgen pseudo-opensource hardware based on
TI AM5728 SoC dual core 1.5GHZ A15,2GB DDR3L (dual 32bit busses),
eSATA, 3 USB3.0 ports, integrated HDMI (1920x1080@60),separate LCD
port, video In port, 4GB eMMC, microSD, analog audio i/o, dual-Gb
ethernet.
Will it fall under $100 or will it be $100-200? Make your bets.
I believe RPi is really pseudo open source because you can't make the same board although you have all schematics. Stuff from bb.org was cloned dozens of times
I find the idea of recycling old PC RAM, or buying new from a PC shop, rather appealing.
I get a cheap(er) board, can upgrade, and can even venture into overclocking...
On Nov 8, 2014 1:06 PM, "Scott Murray" <sc...@spiteful.org> wrote:
>
> Are either of the AM5278's PCIe ports run out to the connectors?
Yeap!
I'm just hoping that the pricing is right - this is a killer board at around 150$.
Not sure if this can replace a desktop but it sounds like a good NAS/Media server/HTPC builds though that might not be an intended application of this beast :)
Is it the PCIe part which isn't open source on the board?
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On Nov 8, 2014 1:27 PM, "Kumar Abhishek" <kumar.abhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I'm just hoping that the pricing is right - this is a killer board at around 150$.
> Not sure if this can replace a desktop but it sounds like a good NAS/Media server/HTPC builds though that might not be an intended application of this beast :)
>
> Is it the PCIe part which isn't open source on the board?
Imgtech, sgx 3d graphics core is closed..
On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:32:19 -0600
Gerald Coley <ger...@beagleboard.org> wrote:
> Definitely not one of those. Look at what it has on it and make a good
> guess.
Ok "definitely" must mean $200-400. Is this not good guessing?
This starts to be a in different realm and the competition is more
fierce. But you know more about that than I ever will and it's
likely that I just don't understand the landscape. Dual Gb ethernet
will attract a lot of attention for server/firewall/IDS/IPS.
On Nov 8, 2014 3:05 PM, "William Hermans" <yyr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So, *why* does TI keep using hardware that has closed source drivers ? Does TI realize this is killing their stuff in the eyes of many ppl out there ?
Well it does have a Vivante GC320 2D GPU so maybe they are starting the transition....
On Nov 8, 2014 4:12 PM, "William Hermans" <yyr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Gerald, perhaps, but it is a huge disappointment to me, and I am sure to many others out there.
>
> This board to me screams low-end x86 killer, and squarely lands in the multimedia arena. A bit much for a NAS like system if you ask me, but surely would do a great job of it.
With the dual dsp's and dual m4's, video decoding should be nice..
>
> It will be interesting to see how the USB3 drivers shape up as well.
It's not the classic 'musb' IP from a completely different manufacture.
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/usb/dwc3
Any ideas how this compares to the wandboard quad? 4x Cortex-A9 vs 2x Cortex-A15?
Also, this would be awesome to setup a small Arm cluster with since it has a decent RAM/core count ratio, gig/e and sata.
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Any ideas how this compares to the wandboard quad? 4x Cortex-A9 vs 2x Cortex-A15
John Syn,
Wandboard Quad does have 64 bit memory bus.
P.S. I don't know who needs dual DSP onboard because TI definitely will not support them as should like it was for omap3/dm37. I'd better have well supported hardware video encoder/decoder rather than double general purpose DSPs without any software support
The am57xx uses the omap4 interface which is mainline as rpmsg.
>
>
> Laurent
On Nov 9, 2014 4:17 AM, "Laurent Desnogues" <laurent....@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Maxim Podbereznyy <lisa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > P.S. I don't know who needs dual DSP onboard because TI definitely will not
> > support them as should like it was for omap3/dm37. I'd better have well
> > supported hardware video encoder/decoder rather than double general purpose
> > DSPs without any software support
>
> Do you mean there won't be any way to access and use the DSP
> from Linux, or just that TI won't provide us with codecs and other
> software goodies?
>
> My understanding is that DSP Bridge and DSP Link have been
> replaced by IPC 3.x (which has OMAP5 support).
>
> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/IPC_Software_Options
>
> I hope we'll have support for that on the new shiny board!The am57xx uses the omap4 interface which is mainline as rpmsg.
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BeagleBoard-X15 - Are you really going to release such monster? :)
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Gerald:
The picture on
http://www.elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoard-X15
looks great.
But, I note that it does not show a heatsink or fan on the Sitara.
Is this just some "photographic license" or is this Sitara going to need
some proactive cooling?
Thanks,
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On Friday, November 7, 2014 3:05:21 AM UTC-6, lisarden wrote:Hey guys!BeagleBoard-X15 - Are you really going to release such monster? :)
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There are on die and onboard temperature sensors. Current boards have a heatsink only.
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On Nov 8, 2014 3:05 PM, "William Hermans" <yyr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> So, *why* does TI keep using hardware that has closed source drivers ? Does TI realize this is killing their stuff in the eyes of many ppl out there ?Well it does have a Vivante GC320 2D GPU so maybe they are starting the transition....
>
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 1:05 PM, rh_ <richard...@lavabit.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:32:19 -0600
>> Gerald Coley <ger...@beagleboard.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Definitely not one of those. Look at what it has on it and make a good
>> > guess.
>>
>> Ok "definitely" must mean $200-400. Is this not good guessing?
>> This starts to be a in different realm and the competition is more
>> fierce. But you know more about that than I ever will and it's
>> likely that I just don't understand the landscape. Dual Gb ethernet
>> will attract a lot of attention for server/firewall/IDS/IPS.
>>
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On Sun, 9 Nov 2014 11:00:21 +0100
"Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <h...@goldelico.com> wrote:
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> Am 08.11.2014 um 21:05 schrieb rh_
> <richard...@lavabit.com>:
>
> > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:32:19 -0600
> > Gerald Coley <ger...@beagleboard.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Definitely not one of those. Look at what it has on it and make a
> >> good guess.
> >
> > Ok "definitely" must mean $200-400. Is this not good guessing?
> > This starts to be a in different realm and the competition is more
> > fierce. But you know more about that than I ever will and it's
> > likely that I just don't understand the landscape. Dual Gb ethernet
> > will attract a lot of attention for server/firewall/IDS/IPS.
>
> I think the feature set of the X15 is almost comparable to the
> OMAP5432EVM (which AFAIR was originally planned to become
> a PandaBoard 5):
>
> http://www.svtronics.com/5432
>
> So this seems to confirm the price range $200-400...
X15 not interesting at this price range. Plus some of the features
are really vaporware as it's likely they remain in their software
blackhole, as mentioned earlier.
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If you don¹t stand up and be counted, then you have no right to complain.
Look at the recently submited mail box subsystem.
On 11/10/14, 10:58 AM, "Nishanth Menon" <n...@ti.com> wrote:
>On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:54 AM, John Syn <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 11/10/14, 1:15 AM, "Jason Kridner" <jkri...@beagleboard.org> wrote:
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>>>On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 1:13 AM, Maxim Podbereznyy <lisa...@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>> John Syn,
>>>> Wandboard Quad does have 64 bit memory bus.
>>>>
>>>> P.S. I don't know who needs dual DSP onboard because TI definitely
>>>>will
>>>>not
>>>> support them as should like it was for omap3/dm37. I'd better have
>>>>well
>>>> supported hardware video encoder/decoder rather than double general
>>>>purpose
>>>> DSPs without any software support
>>>
>>>When OMAP3 came out, the only compilers for C6000 were expensive,
>>>closed-source compilers. Now, there is support in mainline GCC for
>>>C6000. As the BeagleBoard.org community, we have to work together to
>>>enable use of the DSPs if they are of interest to the
>>>community---there aren't any barriers in our way.
>> The TI C6000 does some amazing pipeline optimization, which seems to be
>> missing from the GCC compiler. Anyway, using CCSV6 is no big deal, but
>> support for RPMSG/REMOTEPROC on this processor is a big issue. The
>>source
>> is difficult to follow and my guess is we would need input from the
>> original authors to do this work.
>
>Why dont we get involved in linux-omap discussions on the topic? most
>of the rpmsg and remote proc discussions do take place in kernel
>mailing list. usually discussing in context helps move patches forward
>since it makes it clear to certain maintainers that these things are
>important and help community.
>
>
>Do you have anything specific that you are concerned about?
Looking at git.ti.com/rpmsg/rpmsg, I don¹t see any support for AM572x
processors. Also, Beagleboard-X15 is to be released with Kernel V3.18 but
I don¹t see support for this kernel versions. Last I heard, RPMSG was
working on OMAP4, but not fully implemented on OMAP5, but this was a while
ago and perhaps this has changed. Perhaps Suman can give us an update.
Similar concerns about REMOTEPROC. What I know is that I have been pushing
this issue on the beta list and the only feedback I received was that
"RPMSG/REMOTEPROC was in a SW blackhole².
Based on the TRM, this processor looks extremely attractive, and we need
RPMSG/REMOTEPROC to take advantage of the powerful dual DSPs and dual
CortexM4s.
Regards,
John
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Any ideas how this compares to the wandboard quad? 4x Cortex-A9 vs 2x Cortex-A15?
TI is waiting for approval from the IP owner as to what can be put into the document. This was a way to get it out sooner and not have to wait on the IP owner.It will be included in the final release.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:25 PM, <danesh....@gmail.com> wrote:Was checking the AM572x TRM and noticed that the PCIe Controller section (24.9) is blank. Any particular reason why the information on this block cannot be shared in the public domain?
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