Global Warming A Lot Of Bunk--Climate Expert
Libertarian
risen less than 1 degree over the last century. The highest annual
temperature recorded was way back in 1938 long before America
and the world became heavily industrialized. The climate-change
specialist speaking on Fox News last night said that liberal
anti-capitalists
like Al Gore have tried to ascribe the many bad hurricanes of 1005 on
global
warning, but in 2006 the number of hurricanes in the Atlantic was
well below the average of the last century.
He went on to say that the world's climate was probably higher
in the 9th century, the time of the Vikings, when much of southern
Greenland was actually green, thus getting its name.
-
Marxism's half-life has been amazing.
Outside of our finest universities, pretty
much no one believes in the junk, and
yet it hangs over the intellectual and
political landscape like background
radiation.-- Jonah Goldberg
dechucka
"Libertarian" <liber...@cyberpunk.com> wrote in message
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> Proof of this is that the mean temperature of the planet has only
> risen less than 1 degree over the last century.
so the globe is getting warmer, hence global warming is occurring. You have
contradicted your subject line in the opening sentence
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ottodachat
> Proof of this is that the mean temperature of the planet has only
> risen less than 1 degree over the last century. The highest annual
> temperature recorded was way back in 1938 long before America
> and the world became heavily industrialized. The climate-change
> specialist speaking on Fox News last night said that liberal
> anti-capitalists
> like Al Gore have tried to ascribe the many bad hurricanes of 1005 on
> global
> warning, but in 2006 the number of hurricanes in the Atlantic was
> well below the average of the last century.
>
> He went on to say that the world's climate was probably higher
> in the 9th century, the time of the Vikings, when much of southern
> Greenland was actually green, thus getting its name.
ok mr. inbred, why are all the glaciers esp. the ones in Switzerland
melting away????
>
> -
> Marxism's half-life has been amazing.
> Outside of our finest universities, pretty
> much no one believes in the junk, and
> yet it hangs over the intellectual and
> political landscape like background
> radiation.-- Jonah Goldberg
--
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dechucka
"ottodachat" <www.youtube.com/timsmithfilmfestival> wrote in message
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> Libertarian wrote:
>> Proof of this is that the mean temperature of the planet has only
>> risen less than 1 degree over the last century. The highest annual
>> temperature recorded was way back in 1938 long before America
>> and the world became heavily industrialized. The climate-change
>> specialist speaking on Fox News last night said that liberal
>> anti-capitalists
>> like Al Gore have tried to ascribe the many bad hurricanes of 1005 on
>> global
>> warning, but in 2006 the number of hurricanes in the Atlantic was
>> well below the average of the last century.
>>
>> He went on to say that the world's climate was probably higher
>> in the 9th century, the time of the Vikings, when much of southern
>> Greenland was actually green, thus getting its name.
>
> ok mr. inbred, why are all the glaciers esp. the ones in Switzerland
> melting away????
because of the global warming it says is occurring
Fred
But it's an unmissable tax raising opportunity and an
ideal topic for politicians to earnestly talk about without committing
themselves to making difficult decisions in more sensitive areas,
decisions that may annoy the EU politburo for example.
Prophet Hannity
> ok mr. inbred, why are all the glaciers esp. the ones in Switzerland
> melting away????
>
in Iraq!
alan kyder
It's not called global warming anymore, it's called Weather Change.
The change in weather patterns is causing Icebergs to appear of
NZ, Melting and Retreat of every Glacier on the Planet, getting
summer weather in winter time and Winter weather in Summer.
The weather is changing due to Increased Temperatures.
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LOL's.... you idiots still beleive in magical faryies too right....
The Great Scum!
First they called it global cooling, now they flip flop and call it global
warming. It's all nonsense and another scam to keep you paying and paying
SUV's On Jupiter?
Kofi Annan today slammed global warming skeptics as being "out of step" and
"out of time," but how will altering human activity halt climate change when
the evidence clearly indicates that the sun itself and not SUV's is heating
up the entire solar system?
SUV's On Jupiter?
Are humans responsible for climate change on the outer reaches of the solar
system, or is it the sun?
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Thursday, November 16, 2006
Kofi Annan today slammed global warming skeptics as being "out of step" and
"out of time," but how will altering human activity halt climate change when
the evidence clearly indicates that the sun itself and not SUV's is heating
up the entire solar system?
"The U.N. chief lamented "a frightening lack of leadership" in fashioning
next steps to reduce global emissions. "Let us start being more politically
courageous," he urged the hundreds of delegates from some 180 member nations
of the 1992 U.N. climate treaty," reports Forbes.
But how do we square the fact that almost every planet in our solar system
is simultaneously undergoing temperature change and volatile weather
patterns. Does this not suggest that global warming is a natural cycle as a
result of the evolving nature of the sun? Can Al Gore fill me in on this
one?
- Space.com: Global Warming on Pluto Puzzles Scientists
In what is largely a reversal of an August announcement, astronomers today
said Pluto is undergoing global warming in its thin atmosphere even as it
moves farther from the Sun on its long, odd-shaped orbit.
- Space.com: New Storm on Jupiter Hints at Climate Change
The latest images could provide evidence that Jupiter is in the midst of a
global change that can modify temperatures by as much as 10 degrees
Fahrenheit on different parts of the globe.
- Current Science & Technology Center: Global Warming on Mars?
A study of the ice caps on Mars may show that the red planet is experiencing
a warming trend. If both Mars and Earth are experiencing global warming,
then perhaps there is a larger phenomenon going on in the Solar System that
is causing their global climates to change.
- United Press International: NASA looks at a monster storm on Saturn
NASA says its Cassini spacecraft has found a hurricane-like storm at
Saturn's South Pole, nearly 5,000 miles across -- or two-thirds Earth's
diameter.
- Science Agogo: Global Warming Detected on Triton
There may not be much industrial pollution on Neptune's largest moon, but
things are hotting up nonetheless. "At least since 1989, Triton has been
undergoing a period of global warming," confirms astronomer James Elliot,
professor of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences at Massachusetts
Institute of Technology. "Percentage-wise, it's a very large increase."
- Associated Press: Study says sun getting hotter
Solar radiation reaching the Earth is 0.036 percent warmer than it was in
1986, when the current solar cycle was beginning, a researcher reports in a
study to be published Friday in the journal Science. The finding is based on
an analysis of satellites that measure the temperature of sunlight.
- London Telegraph: The truth about global warming - it's the Sun that's to
blame
Global warming has finally been explained: the Earth is getting hotter
because the Sun is burning more brightly than at any time during the past
1,000 years, according to new research.
The simple fact is that throughout the ages the earth has swung wildly
between a warm, wet, stable climate, to a cold, dry and windy one - long
before the first fossil fuel was burned. The changes we are now witnessing
are a walk in the park compared to the battering that our planet has taken
in the past.
This is not a defense of the oil cartels or the Neo-Con wreckers, who would
have every motivation to ignore global warming whether it is man-made or
not.
Nor is it a blanket denial of the fact that the earth is getting very
gradually hotter, but how do we reconcile global warming taking place at the
farthest reaches of the solar system with the contention that it is caused
by human activity? Have our exhaust fumes left earth's atmosphere and
slipped through a black hole to Triton?
The assertion that global warming is man made is so oppressively enforced
upon popular opinion, especially in Europe, that expressing a scintilla of
doubt is akin to holocaust denial in some cases. Such is the insipid
brainwashing that has taken place via television, newspapers and exalted
talking heads - global warming skeptics are forced to wear the metaphoric
yellow star and only discuss their doubts in hushed tones and conciliatory
frameworks, or be cat-called, harangued and jeered by an army of do-gooders
who righteously believe they are rescuing mother earth by recycling a wine
bottle or putting their paper in a separate trash can.
Fearmongering about an imminent climate doomsday also hogs news coverage and
important environmental issues like GM food, mad scientist chimera cloning
and the usurpation and abuse of corporations like Monsanto flies under the
radar.
Global warming is cited as an excuse to meter out further control and
surveillance over our daily lives, RFID chips on our trash cans, GPS
satellite tacking and taxation by the mile, as well as a global tax at the
gas pump.
The extremist wing of the environmentalist movement, characterized by people
like Dr. Erik Pianka, advocate the mass culling of humanity via plagues and
state sanctioned bio-terrorism, in order to "save" the earth from the
disease of humanity. Nazi-like genocial population control measures and the
environmental establishment have always held a close alliance.
The orthodox organized religion of global warming and its disastrous
consequences for our freedom of speech, freedom of mobility and our right to
remain outside of the system, needs to be questioned on the foundational
basis that the phenomenon is solar-system wide and it is mainly caused by
the natural evolution of the sun and not human activity.
New UN Children's Book Promotes Global Warming Fears to Kids
A new United Nations children's book promoting fears of catastrophic manmade
global warming is being promoted at the UN Climate Change Conference in
Kenya.
Pay up ... or the planet gets it
HARD-WORKING families face crippling new bills as the Government fights
global warming with a raft of stinging taxes.
Guilt-edged profits
Almost every day produces another doom-filled warning about global warming:
a report tomorrow predicts a worldwide recession as a result of climate
change. But, as Ross Clark reports, where there is anxiety, there's also
business opportunity. and taxes, of course
dechucka
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>> "Libertarian" <liber...@cyberpunk.com> wrote in message
>> news:456c9d35$0$1611$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com...
>> > Proof of this is that the mean temperature of the planet has only
>> > risen less than 1 degree over the last century.
>>
>> so the globe is getting warmer, hence global warming is occurring. You
> have
>> contradicted your subject line in the opening sentence
>
>
> LOL's.... you idiots still beleive in magical faryies too right....
> The Great Scum!
>
> First they called it global cooling, now they flip flop and call it global
> warming. It's all nonsense and another scam to keep you paying and paying
The OP poster is the one who claimed the globe is getting warmer, go attack
it
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Roedy Green
<liber...@cyberpunk.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
who said :
>Proof of this is that the mean temperature of the planet has only
>risen less than 1 degree over the last century.
Why are you attempting to commit planetcide with your lies?
Why do you hate your planet?
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green, http://mindprod.com
Priorities: Prevent global climate destabilisation. End both wars. Prepare for oil shortages.
pcourterelle
"Roedy Green" <see_w...@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:37:40 -0500, "Libertarian"
> <liber...@cyberpunk.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
> who said :
>
>>Proof of this is that the mean temperature of the planet has only
>>risen less than 1 degree over the last century.
>
> Why are you attempting to commit planetcide with your lies?
>
> Why do you hate your planet?
planetcide...lol...my what arrogance you have, thinking that mere humans
could destroy the planet.
Whatever you say Chicken Little
Libertarian
--
Marxism's half-life has been amazing.
Outside of our finest universities, pretty
much no one believes in the junk, and
yet it hangs over the intellectual and
political landscape like background
radiation.-- Jonah Goldberg
"Prophet Hannity" <pro...@hannity.org> wrote in message
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> ottodachat <www.youtube.com/timsmithfilmfestival> said:
>> ok mr. inbred, why are all the glaciers esp. the ones in Switzerland
>> melting away????
>>
There hasn't been any melting going on in Alberta and Saskatchewan during
the last few days. Lowest temperatures recorded in over a century.
B J Foster
> Libertarian wrote:
>
>> Proof of this is that the mean temperature of the planet has only
>> risen less than 1 degree over the last century. The highest annual
>> temperature recorded was way back in 1938 long before America
>> and the world became heavily industrialized. The climate-change
>> specialist speaking on Fox News last night said that liberal
>> anti-capitalists
>> like Al Gore have tried to ascribe the many bad hurricanes of 1005 on
>> global
>> warning, but in 2006 the number of hurricanes in the Atlantic was
>> well below the average of the last century.
>>
>> He went on to say that the world's climate was probably higher
>> in the 9th century, the time of the Vikings, when much of southern
>> Greenland was actually green, thus getting its name.
The 1 degree (F) is from a computer *simulation* - the model excluded
data from mediaeval times when it was several degrees higher than now
>
>
> ok mr. inbred, why are all the glaciers esp. the ones in Switzerland
> melting away????
>
Musta been a 'global warming' conference there
richard schumacher
For discussion by scientists of global warming see http://realclimate.org
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Get over it bubba....
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LOL's.... First they called it global cooling in the 70's, now they flip
flop and call it global
warming in the 90's. It's all nonsense and another scam to keep you paying
and paying more money for political scumbags
dechucka
"Brig Gen Tuttle USAF NI-Freedom_Forces........69778..." <Brig Gen .. Tuttle
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what have SUV got to do with it?
dechucka
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>
> "richard schumacher" <no-...@invalid.net> wrote in message
> news:no-spam-EBFA4A...@news.isp.giganews.com...
>> Thanks for sharing.
>>
>> For discussion by scientists of global warming see http://realclimate.org
>
> LOL's.... First they called it global cooling in the 70's, now they flip
> flop and call it global
> warming in the 90's. It's all nonsense and another scam to keep you paying
> and paying more money for political scumbags
>
> SUV's On Jupiter?
what is it with you and SUVs
snip
Ronald
> "Brig Gen Tuttle USAF NI-Freedom_Forces........69778..." <Brig Gen .. Tuttle
> USAF
> NI.Freedom_Forces.........@.....gov.pen....roomBGy7985.icsncg.69785848..30607.DCwash.usand
> their crimes...> wrote in message news:usqbh.5676$hn.4248@edtnps82...
> >
> > Get over it bubba....
> >
> >
> > SUV's On Jupiter?
>
>
> what have SUV got to do with it?
>
Are humans responsible for climate change on the outer reaches of the solar
system, or is it the sun?
By Paul Joseph Watson
www.prisonplanet.com's resident conspiracy genius. All the kooks believe him.
The Toad
Is it "global warming" or "human-caused global warming"
that is occurring?
If the former but not the latter, then Kyoto is a trillion
dollar fraud and its promoters are swindlers of the first
magnitude.
Toad-Beneath-the-Harrow
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Carbon credits are the indulgences of the 21st century. Useless
pieces of paper sold to gullible believers -- at great cost to
them and great profit to the sellers -- guaranteeing escape from
an imaginary "greenhouse warming" version of Hell.
-- The Toad, 2006
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LOL's you are either dense or just willfully ignorant...
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"Ronald" <ronaldw...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> dechucka dech...@vomithotmail.com said:
> > "Brig Gen Tuttle USAF NI-Freedom_Forces........69778..." <Brig Gen ..
Tuttle
> > USAF
> >
NI.Freedom_Forces.........@.....gov.pen....roomBGy7985.icsncg.69785848..3060
7.DCwash.usand
> > their crimes...> wrote in message news:usqbh.5676$hn.4248@edtnps82...
> > > [quoted text muted]
> > >
> > > Get over it bubba....
> > >
> > >
> > > SUV's On Jupiter?
> >
> >
> > what have SUV got to do with it?
> >
> SUV's On Jupiter?
> Are humans responsible for climate change on the outer reaches of the
solar
> system, or is it the sun?
It's the sun.....
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What is it with you morally bankrupt wankers who just can't get past the
fact, that global WARMING IS THE BIGGEST FRAUD TO HIT YOU SMACK IN THE FACE
DO YOU UNDERSTAND POOF....
>
> snip
>
>
dechucka
>> "Brig Gen Tuttle USAF NI-Freedom_Forces........69778..." <Brig Gen ..
>> Tuttle
>> USAF
>> NI.Freedom_Forces.........@.....gov.pen....roomBGy7985.icsncg.69785848..30607.DCwash.usand
>> their crimes...> wrote in message news:usqbh.5676$hn.4248@edtnps82...
>> > [quoted text muted]
>> >
>> > Get over it bubba....
>> >
>> >
>> > SUV's On Jupiter?
>>
>>
>> what have SUV got to do with it?
>>
> SUV's On Jupiter?
> Are humans responsible for climate change on the outer reaches of the
> solar
> system, or is it the sun?
sorry again I ask what has this got to do with IF the planet is getting
warmer or not?
dechucka
"Brig Gen Tuttle USAF NI-Freedom_Forces........69778..." <Brig Gen .. Tuttle
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so your argument is with the cause of the current global warming not if is
occurring or not
dechucka
"The Toad" <the....@trashcanistan.ca> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:56:44 +1100, "dechucka"
> <dech...@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>>"Libertarian" <liber...@cyberpunk.com> wrote in message
>>news:456c9d35$0$1611$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com...
>>> Proof of this is that the mean temperature of the planet has only
>>> risen less than 1 degree over the last century.
>>
>>so the globe is getting warmer, hence global warming is occurring. You
>>have
>>contradicted your subject line in the opening sentence
>
>
>
> Is it "global warming" or "human-caused global warming"
> that is occurring?
and that is the question
Ronald
where I discredited the moron who cooked up the silly notion.
dechucka
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Indiana
global warming. It's written in stone. Don't confuse the issue with the
science or the facts. As long as they can find a handful of paid shills to
support their beliefs, they'll stick to them.
The same applies to the theory of evolution.
dechucka
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USAF
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so are you claiming that the Earths climate is static? because if you look
over the millennium that is blatantly wrong.
dechucka
dechucka
Ronald are you and Big Gen Tuttle the same person
dechucka
"Indiana" <indi...@forethough.net> wrote in message
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The earths climate has never been static it is always changing. IMHO the
evidence points to a period of warming. What these people can't understand
is that if global warming is occuring it does not mean it is man made.
However these nutters cannot see that there are 2 seperate questions
>
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Gee buckwheat, did you not understand the news article and who was pointing
what out! yup your willfully ignorant alright.......read the article instead
of snipping everything you just can't grasp, with that pointed head of
your's...
>
>
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> dechucka dech...@vomithotmail.com said:
> >
> > "Brig Gen Tuttle USAF NI-Freedom_Forces........69778..." <Brig Gen ..
Tuttle
> > USAF
> >
hahahahahahhahaha, well it takes all kinds and dechucka fits right in with
those socialist who believe in magical fairies...
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>
> "Ronald" <ronaldw...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> > dechucka dech...@vomithotmail.com said:
> >>
> >> "Brig Gen Tuttle USAF NI-Freedom_Forces........69778..." <Brig Gen ..
> >> Tuttle
> >> USAF
> >>
hahahahahhaha, no...but you seem to be right out in outer space...are you
smoking to much pot by chance!
>
>
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you seem to be having problem's grasping what up...OH well my eyes will keep
on rolling...hahahahahha
I feel sorry for you lardy, if your going to buy all this global warming
crap, at least do some home work before you go on the internet...
That way you'll understand the facts.....good luck with this idiot thing you
got going!!!
>
>
Ronald
> The earths climate has never been static it is always changing. IMHO the
> evidence points to a period of warming. What these people can't understand
> is that if global warming is occuring it does not mean it is man made.
>
governments believe that it is.
Ronald
I mock his prisonplanet kooksite source and somehow that flew right over your
head and now you go on the attack. I only discuss things with those who have a
brain, not imbeciles.
Don't bother me.
dechucka
"Brig Gen Tuttle USAF NI-Freedom_Forces........69778..." <Brig Gen .. Tuttle
USAF
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you fit the profile of the nutters involved in this debate
>
>
dechucka
>> so are you claiming that the Earths climate is static? because if you
>> look
>> over the millennium that is blatantly wrong.
>
> you seem to be having problem's grasping what up...OH well my eyes will
> keep
> on rolling...hahahahahha
> I feel sorry for you lardy, if your going to buy all this global warming
> crap, at least do some home work before you go on the internet...
> That way you'll understand the facts.....good luck with this idiot thing
> you
> got going!!!
so you beleive what that the Earths climate is static at the moment. Please
try and explain your pov without abuse if you can
>
>>
>>
>
>
dechucka
I agree but while IMHO there is overwhelming evidence of global warming
occurring the extent of mans contribution to this warming is less certain
The Toad
<dech...@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>
>so you beleive what that the Earths climate is static at the moment. Please
>try and explain your pov without abuse if you can
WHY PEOPLE FALL FOR THE HUMAN-CAUSED WARMING FRAUD
I suspect that most people falling for the human-caused
global warming scam are under the illusion the world's
climate is normally static.
Starting from that erroneous assumption, it's easy for
them to jump to the conclusion that recent changes
must be the result of something completely new on the
planet -- industrial civilization.
If they were only aware of the wild temperature
fluctuations that have occurred throughout the Earth's
history, they wouldn't be so easily deceived.
For example, only 18,000 years ago, a mere moment
ago in the Earth's history, Southern Ontario was
in the grip of Wisconsin glaciation and completely
buried under roughly 2 kilometers of ice.
Toad-Beneath-the-Harrow
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COLD HISTORICAL FACTS
361 YEARS AGO
"The year was 1645, and the glaciers in the Alps were on
the move. In Chamonix at the foot of Mont Blanc, people
watched in fear as the Mer de Glace (Sea of Ice) glacier
advanced. In earlier years, they had seen the slowly
flowing ice engulf farms and crush entire villages. They
turned to the Bishop of Geneva for help, .... At the ice
front he performed a rite of exorcism. ... Similar dramas
unfolded throughout the Alps and Scandinavia during the
late 1600s and early 1700s, as many glaciers grew farther
down mountain slopes and valleys than they had in thousands
of years. Sea ice choked much of the North Atlantic, causing
havoc with fisheries in Iceland and Scandinavia. ... At
the same time in China, severe winters in Jiang-Xi province
killed the last of the orange groves that had thrived there
for centuries."
1,000 YEARS AGO
Norse settlers are building farms in southern Greenland.
The farming communities will survive raising sheep, cattle,
and goats for more than three centuries until the climate
begins to cool. Their last written record will be that of
a wedding held there in 1408.
2,000 YEARS AGO
In Rome, Augustus, adopted son of Julius Caesar, rules
over the entire Roman world as its first Emperor. And
in Jericho, Herod the Great, King of Judea is dying.
4,600 YEARS AGO
In Egypt, Pharaoh Khufu is building the Great Pyramid
at Giza as his tomb.
6,000 YEARS AGO
".. a period known as the "Holocene Maximum," global
temperatures were about 2 degrees Fahrenheit warmer
than today. Rainfall patterns also were different. For
example, in what is now the arid core of the Sahara desert,
hippopotamuses and crocodiles thrived in lakes and swamps.
Moister conditions in Mesopotamia and the Indus Valley
aided the development of agriculture and humanity's first
great civilizations in these regions."
11,200 YEARS AG0
The southern edge of the great Laurentide Ice Sheet lies
a few miles north of modern Ottawa. Southern Ontario is
ice-free. The depressed area around the modern the Ottawa
and St. Lawrence rivers has been inundated by a salt-water
arm of the Atlantic Ocean forming the Champlain Sea.
18,000 YEARS AGO
The Wisconsin Glaciation is at its height. The Laurentide
Ice Sheet covers northern North America. It's southern
edge lies near modern New York City and extends through
northern Pennsylvania and central Ohio. In eastern Ontario,
the ice sheet may exceed 2 kilometers in thickness.
75,000 YEARS AGO
The most recent glacial episode, the Wisconsin Glaciation,
is beginning.
2,500,000 YEARS AGO
Quaternary Ice Age (a period of the earth's history
when a significant, extended cooling of the atmosphere
takes palace) is beginning.
55,000,000 YEARS AGO
It is the "Paleocene Eocene Thermal Maximum" and the Arctic
enjoys a "Floridian" year-round average temperature of 74
degrees Farheneit.
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> dechucka dech...@vomithotmail.com said:
> >
> > "Ronald" <ronaldw...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.1fd8161ef...@news.motzarella.org...
> > > dechucka dech...@vomithotmail.com said:
> > >>
> > >> "Brig Gen Tuttle USAF NI-Freedom_Forces........69778..." <Brig Gen ..
> > >> Tuttle
> > >> USAF
> > >>
You only mock your retardation in not being able to tell facts from neo-con
Liberal fiction, but then I would expect socialists' claiming their
conservatives or liberals to stop selling out the Canadian people with
BS....
Keep your cone head on ronnie macdonnie, it suits you queers!
Gen .. Tuttle USAF NI.Freedom_Forces.........@.....gov.pen....roomBGy7985.icsncg.69785848..30607.DCwash.usandtheircrimes Brig Gen Tuttle USAF NI-Freedom_Forces........69778...
When you learn to read idiot, get back to me as your a nut!
> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Gen .. Tuttle USAF NI.Freedom_Forces.........@.....gov.pen....roomBGy7985.icsncg.69785848..30607.DCwash.usandtheircrimes Brig Gen Tuttle USAF NI-Freedom_Forces........69778...
The only nuts is you and the big poof ronnie!
> >
> >
>
>
Siobhan Medeiros
> Proof of this is that the mean temperature of the planet has only
> risen less than 1 degree over the last century.
One degree is a hell of a lot. The ice age was only five degrees
cooler than now.
>The highest annual
> temperature recorded was way back in 1938 long before America
> and the world became heavily industrialized.
LOL!!! Wrong on both counts! The highest recorded average
temperature, last I heard, was in 1998. ANd in case you skipped
history, by 1938 America was very industrialized. The industrial
revolution was back in the 19th century, doorknob.
>The climate-change
> specialist speaking on Fox News
Oh, that's reeeeeaaaaaallll credible. I dont' suppose this guy had a
name?
>last night said that liberal
> anti-capitalists
> like Al Gore have tried to ascribe the many bad hurricanes of 1005 on
> global
> warning, but in 2006 the number of hurricanes in the Atlantic was
> well below the average of the last century.
>
> He went on to say that the world's climate was probably higher
> in the 9th century, the time of the Vikings, when much of southern
> Greenland was actually green, thus getting its name.
IT STILL IS!!!
>
> -
> Marxism's half-life has been amazing.
> Outside of our finest universities, pretty
> much no one believes in the junk, and
> yet it hangs over the intellectual and
> political landscape like background
> radiation.-- Jonah Goldberg
Lambourne, is that you?
Siobhan Medeiros
> "Roedy Green" <see_w...@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:rd3qm2h94dj91qadm...@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:37:40 -0500, "Libertarian"
> > <liber...@cyberpunk.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
> > who said :
> >
> >>Proof of this is that the mean temperature of the planet has only
> >>risen less than 1 degree over the last century.
> >
> >
> > Why do you hate your planet?
>
> planetcide...lol...my what arrogance you have, thinking that mere humans
> could destroy the planet.
>
> Whatever you say Chicken Little
Nope. Just wreck the environment (and yes, the economy along with it),
and probably end the age of technology.
Siobhan Medeiros
How many times do I have to say it? The current rate of global warming
is TEN TIMES faster than it was during the end of the ice age.
0.6C in one century. The ice age was about 5C cooler than now. So by
your math, if this is normal the ice age should have ended only 1000
years ago.
dechucka
>
> The only nuts is you and the big poof ronnie!
that is the level of your understanding and ability to debate this topic
dechucka
>> try and explain your pov without abuse if you can
>
>
> When you learn to read idiot, get back to me as your a nut!
Oh well you failed this little test as you have to put forth any logical
argument backed up by facts
Roedy Green
<liber...@cyberpunk.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
who said :
> but in 2006 the number of hurricanes in the Atlantic was
>well below the average of the last century.
The final weather is a combination of effects. El Ninio ocean
currents worked to reduce severity, and global warming worked to
increase it. The net result was a year quieter than 2005.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green, http://mindprod.com
Priorities: Prevent global climate destabilisation. End both wars. Prepare for oil shortages.
Tora
> On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:37:40 -0500, "Libertarian"
> <liber...@cyberpunk.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
> who said :
>
> > but in 2006 the number of hurricanes in the Atlantic was
> > well below the average of the last century.
>
> The final weather is a combination of effects. El Ninio ocean
> currents worked to reduce severity, and global warming worked to
> increase it. The net result was a year quieter than 2005.
> --
I'm convinced that man made global warming exists. However, when
periodic and proven cyclical weather conditions like hurricanes,
canceling the World Cup Downhill ski events in the Alps because of no
snow or many more things that have been observed and recognized as
being a repetition of recognized weather cycles which occur over
decades; people are not contributing positively to the cause by making
claims to do with weather because weather and climate are not the same
thing.
Doing so is just as bad as when some dumbass says "It's cold in Moose
Jaw today! So much for global warming!"
Or the idea that there was a mini-ice age, when in fact it was a
European phenomenon and not world wide, or the localized (Gulf Stream
caused) warming trend in Greenland 1000 years ago.
In summary, it's unwise to start saying that there isn't as much snow
these days as there was when you were a boy in an attempt to add to the
evidence of global warming because that's not the way it works.
--
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> snip
> >
> > The only nuts is you and the big poof ronnie!
>
> that is the level of your understanding and ability to debate this topic
You know your mind is a terrible thing to waste. As if, you can debate, you
just snip everything out goofy....hahahahhaha, that just too funny...you
debate....LOL's
Gen .. Tuttle USAF NI.Freedom_Forces.........@.....gov.pen....roomBGy7985.icsncg.69785848..30607.DCwash.usandtheircrimes Brig Gen Tuttle USAF NI-Freedom_Forces........69778...
Facts were given, but your small mind and two brain cell stupidity, just
didn't grasp what was being said....as you snip the contends and then plead
ignorance...way to go junior!
>
>
Roedy Green
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>planetcide...lol...my what arrogance you have, thinking that mere humans
>could destroy the planet.
>
>Whatever you say Chicken Little
Like is not me, it is the vast majority of the climate scientists. You
search junk sources for garbage to spread as legit science.
What possible benefit do you get from that other that being a paid
shill?