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Michael Sierchio

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Jul 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/7/97
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Michael Chien wrote:

> Does anyone know of a good Japanese steakhouse?

No such thing... ;-)

Mitch Sako

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Jul 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/8/97
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Michael Chien (mike...@mindspring.com) wrote:
: Does anyone know of a good Japanese steakhouse?
: Everyone knows Benihana's but I was hoping to
: find someplace better. Preferably San Jose or
: San Francisco.

It's an oxymoron. It's almost like looking for a
good Afghani burrito shop. Benihana's food (teppanyaki)
the way that they present it is not exactly what
you'd call authentic. I believe in Japan it's
called Benihana of New York or something like that
while it's called Benihana of Tokyo here in the US.

The closest thing to a Japanese steak is going to
be something like "Beef Teriyaki" which is without
fail extremely Americanized when served here.
It's extremely sweet, the sauce is very thick
and is unlike anything that is served in Japan that would
pass for teriyaki.

If you want competent American style beef teriyaki, try
Gombei or Azuma, stay away from Ikenohana and Hamasushi.
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Joshua Lurie-Turrell

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Jul 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/8/97
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There are several non-Americanized steakhouses in Tokyo and environs - so
why do you call "Japanese Steakhouse" an oxymoron? There are plenty of
places that serve beef steaks, not necessarily teppanyaki style, from
inexpensive Chinese to outrageously pricey Kobe (Japanese rice-fed) beef
all over Japan. I don't understand why this is an oxymoron. Steak houses
have become very popular in Japan, at least among the city rich. These
are not "copies" of American places like Morton's, either, but a new
culinary genre unto themselves.

Joshua

: In article <msakoEC...@netcom.com>, Mitch Sako <ms...@netcom.com> wrote:


: >Michael Chien (mike...@mindspring.com) wrote:
: >: Does anyone know of a good Japanese steakhouse?
: >: Everyone knows Benihana's but I was hoping to
: >: find someplace better. Preferably San Jose or
: >: San Francisco.
: >
: >It's an oxymoron. It's almost like looking for a
: >good Afghani burrito shop. Benihana's food (teppanyaki)
: >the way that they present it is not exactly what
: >you'd call authentic. I believe in Japan it's
: >called Benihana of New York or something like that
: >while it's called Benihana of Tokyo here in the US.

: That being said, if you want teppanyaki cooking, both the South Bay (Santa
: Clara? Campbell? San Jose?) and San Francisco have branches of Benihana.
: There is also House of Genji in San Jose, which I used to like a bit more
: (haven't been there in a while).

: For a related type of food, you might want to try one of the Korean BBQ
: places - the main differences are that you handle the cooking yourself
: and they give you a *huge* array of pickled condiments and sauces.
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Mitch Sako

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Jul 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/9/97
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First, the original message was checking in the US, not Tokyo.
Second, the type of "new culinary genre" that you are talking
about in Tokyo (and elsewhere in Japan) are more yuppie
cuisine as opposed to typical "Japanese food." To me, a steak
is a steak, cooked on a grill over coals (you can push it an
consider broiling, too), sliced with a knife, eaten with a fork.
"Bifu Teki" (Beef Steak) falls into a grey area but is almost
always sliced into bitesized pieces by the preparer. The places
you refer to, as I have experienced them personally, are not
what I would call steakhouses, but I don't want to get into
a pissing match over semantics.

Joshua Lurie-Turrell (lur...@ccshp1.ccs.csus.edu) wrote:
: There are several non-Americanized steakhouses in Tokyo and environs - so

: Joshua

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Michael Sung

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Jul 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/10/97
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Mitch Sako wrote in article ...


>First, the original message was checking in the US, not Tokyo.
>Second, the type of "new culinary genre" that you are talking
>about in Tokyo (and elsewhere in Japan) are more yuppie
>cuisine as opposed to typical "Japanese food." To me, a steak
>is a steak, cooked on a grill over coals (you can push it an
>consider broiling, too), sliced with a knife, eaten with a fork.
>"Bifu Teki" (Beef Steak) falls into a grey area but is almost
>always sliced into bitesized pieces by the preparer. The places
>you refer to, as I have experienced them personally, are not
>what I would call steakhouses, but I don't want to get into
>a pissing match over semantics.
>

I don't know what the original poster actually means by "Japanese
Steakhouse", but in other asian country, the steak is a little different,
its still a slice grilled beef eaten with fork, but with different sauce
(usually black pepper sauceor mashroom sauce) and side dish (yam,
spaghetti, vegetable and egg) on a sizzling plate. I was told this style is
from Japan or Hong Kong. After I had a steak in a real American steakhouse
first time, my only conclusion is "that A1 sauce sucks!"
and we do have lots of Hong Kong (or Taiwanese) style steakhouses around
here bay area.

Michael Sung

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