The Day Is Coming.....
Tracey12
that you can do, you will be allowed to go to work and come home, but
anything else will violate the law and likely result in a felony
charge.
The day will come, unless we stop this administration from regulating
everything, when you will have to be "approved" to use the Internet by
government.
We are fast approaching this day. Governments are feeling very
threatened by Free Speech on the net, and the release of documents
that the entire world can see that point to government abuse and
misuse of power.
Whether or not you approve of such documents being revealed to the
public, still just free political speech on the net is allowing
millions to form their own opinions in ways that governments never
dreamed of. The establishment who feel they are beyond mere citizens
are not happy. Their kingdoms are being threatened by mere
discussions. Their power is fading and most importantly their ability
to control The Great Unwashed, as they see us, has taken a major hit.
How can they resolve these problems?
STOP THE FREE POLITICAL SPEECH ON THE NET
That is what they are working on now. If you openly discuss the
problems in D.C. and their abuse of power, you may be labeled an enemy
combatant, or an enemy of the state in some way.
This is a fine example of Tyranny. And thought the Tea Party has made
a huge difference, the bureaucrats in D.C. who love power and control
are not being affected by changes on the electoral level.
If you are tired of regulation and daily new attempts to regulate your
entire existence, you are going to have to join in and sound off to
maintain your liberty.
Rightardia
Got a source for you claim? How is Washington curtailing free speech?
So far all the Tea Party has been is a fart in a bottle. We won't know
of its legacy for a couple of more years, assuming it has a legacy.
Provide some facts to back up you opinion.
Tracey12
Sure... see the Drudge Report for the links to the following stories
that are hot today:
Before I post the links, the question is, are you able to see beyond
the initial statements and attempts?
Here are the links at Drudge:
The FCC's Threat to Internet Freedom...
Dems play politics with 'net neutrality' vote...
'Sweeping new rules'...
SHUT: Music Web Sites Dispute Legality of Their Closing...
UK ministers threaten: Censor web, or we will legislate 'to protect
children'...
Plan to block all online porn...
Hugo Chavez defends plan for web regulations...
default
<tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>The day is coming when after Washington regulates every possible thing
>that you can do, you will be allowed to go to work and come home, but
>anything else will violate the law and likely result in a felony
>charge.
>
>The day will come, unless we stop this administration from regulating
>everything, when you will have to be "approved" to use the Internet by
>government.
Yup. The BP oil spill comes to mind as a good excuse to stop
regulating industry, coal mines another. We already know how bad it
is for banks to be regulated...
The rightards only want no regulations because regulations protect
consumers and workers and prevents big business from enforcing its own
brand of capitalism.
Regulation isn't a dirty word. People need freedom and corporations
need rules.
DogDiesel
<default> wrote in message
news:mdlvg69dbnog3iges...@4ax.com...
And the federal governmentr needs to stop spending and be downsized 50%.
And Americans need a Gold standard.
The Federal reserve needs to stop financing the debt.
And congress needs to stop spending it. .
Before China creates their own gold standard. and the dollar goes Kaput .
Obama signed the bill of rights away in February. By resigning the Patriot
act.
Obviously hes not about freedom.
And 45,000 manufacturing "Corporations" left the country since 2001.
The worthless dollar is the problem.
Not Corporations.
The fact is the Socialist European trash countries are hard at work trying
to shutdown Americas freedoms.
our businesses and rights to ownership.
Bob Hammer
How does business "enforce" anything?
> Regulation isn't a dirty word. People need freedom and corporations
> need rules.
That's why the number of felonies increases every year.
For freedom.
Bob Hammer
Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 13:33:40 -0800 (PST), Tracey12
> <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >The day is coming when after Washington regulates every possible thing
> >that you can do, you will be allowed to go to work and come home, but
> >anything else will violate the law and likely result in a felony
> >charge.
>
> Especially for dingbat mad-teawhackoffs pushing idiotic crap like you
> do.
What if government passes laws to restrict Tracey from posting stuff
that upsets you, then a Republican administration comes in and goes
after your statist ilk?
You'll cry like a baby.
pyjamarama
> On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 13:33:40 -0800 (PST), Tracey12
>
> >The day is coming when after Washington regulates every possible thing
> >that you can do, you will be allowed to go to work and come home, but
> >anything else will violate the law and likely result in a felony
> >charge.
>
> do.
You mean 'idiotic crap' like THIS, ass-clown?
Gary Roselles' (aka 'yoorg' ) is anything but silent as he posts how
he feels about blacks (and gays):
On 18 Feb 2007 14:05:28 -0700 Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com> "Then
why was you mother stupid enough to fuck all them black guys?"
On 6 April 2006 10:23:19 -0800, Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com>
wrote "Yeah, there's a real fucking credible authority----Hitchens a
faggot socialist."
On 11 Mar 2001 5:49:44 -0800, Gary Roselles <rosel...@idt.net> wrote:
"The word faggot just describes a gay person"
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:27:54 GMT, Gary Roselles
<rosel...@idt.net>wrote: "Bush's Uncle tom Cabinet is good first step
for GOP" -- Roselles' on Gen. Colin Powell as the first African-
American Sect. of State
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:27:54 GMT, Gary Roselles <rosel...@idt.net>
wrote:"You actually think that placing blackskinned, white thinking
people is going to gain anything with real minorities?"
On 30 Oct 2006 11:13:21 -0800, Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com>
wrote: "brown niggers need to be taken out"
On 2 Jul 2005 10:43:03 -0800, Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com> wrote:
"because of their rap speech"
On 23 Aug 2006 04:29:00 -0700, Gary Roselles <C...@KNICKLAS.COM>
wrote: "What the fuck would a dumb cocksucker like (distinguished
black scholar) Sowell, who sits out at Stanford, never having worked a
day in his Uncle Tom life, know anything?"
On 18 Dec 2000 20:26:48 GMT Gary Roselles <rosel...@idt.net> wrote (of
Colin Powell): "It's apparan[sic] he's being an uncle tom to appease
voters."
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:43:37 GMT Gary Roselles <rosel...@rapidnet.com>
wrote (of Michael Steele): "GOP Poised to Pick Uncle Tom in MD"
On 30 Jun 2005 8:51:19 -0800, Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com> wrote:
They talk in black english"
pyjamarama
> On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:50:23 -0600, Bob Hammer <B...@hammer.org> wrote:
> >In article <5tmvg6hgg0nv5bchjrpm5h2hhvrqdgc...@4ax.com>,
> > Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
> >> On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 13:33:40 -0800 (PST), Tracey12
> >> <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >The day is coming when after Washington regulates every possible thing
> >> >that you can do, you will be allowed to go to work and come home, but
> >> >anything else will violate the law and likely result in a felony
> >> >charge.
>
> >> Especially for dingbat mad-teawhackoffs pushing idiotic crap like you
> >> do.
>
> >What if government passes laws to restrict Tracey from posting stuff
> >that upsets you, then a Republican administration comes in and goes
> >after your statist ilk?
>
> nothing more than comic relief
Speaking of 'dumb fuckwits posting'....
>
> b) I'll refer you to the loonytarian system of economic and political
> idiocy that prevailed just prior to the collapse of the american
> economy in 1929.
>
> Without government siding with people, the corporate, wealth, and
> business classes were committing horrible social ills.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Tracey12
AMEN.
Tracey12
> In article <5tmvg6hgg0nv5bchjrpm5h2hhvrqdgc...@4ax.com>,
>
The Obama admin is working hard to pass enough rules and regs so that
when you do something they don't like, they will come and fine you, or
put you away so that you can't write unapproved thoughts.
In Europe, just writing something that bothers people can get you put
away.
We see today that in Florida, the government is going after a man for
a book he wrote. They don't like the content of the book, so they
have CHARGED him with a crime.
Soon, those same insane rules will be applied to silence the Americans
on the net.
DogDiesel
<Yoor...@Jurgis.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:54:36 -0500, "DogDiesel" <nos...@nospam.none>
> wrote:
>
>>And the federal governmentr needs to stop spending and be downsized
>>50%.
>
> cutting back on services?
>
> How fucking conservative of you.
Weather you like it or not services are going to be cut. Who's cow is
getting gored is still up in the air.
Cities ,,states, and counties wont lose a goddamned thing. I expect those
budgets to get raised.
The Federal government is taking the big cuts. Federal departments must be
closed.
I suggest cutting all budgets back to 1980 levels. Anything created since
then is closed. Patriot, OCommie Care and its 250 new departments. Other
then that. It can be done in other ways.
The 50% can come from the 67% of the TOTAL gubment spending that is off
limits under the Patriot act.
That the Commie Dickhead Kenyan resigned . After calling it Orwellian in
2006.
I would not touch most of any domestic spending. Its been slashed repeatedly
for decades.
However there would be no cash for illegals, welfare abusers or parasites
who wont work, and can.
Your options .
You can have a job, You can be unemployed, You can reeducate yourself. You
can be on welfare, If you had a job and lost it, and don't get pregnant. And
you aren't a foreigner or an illegal. Or an Islamist.
You can be disabled. mentally or physically. And get SSI , Medicaid, ect.
But you cant get pregnant and collect checks.
Under NO circumstances , Is the gubment your DADDY.
You want a Daddy, get married.
monkeywintest
Yea, since pelosi and dems took over? Right bitch?
> The worthless dollar is the problem.
>
> Not Corporations.
>
> The fact is the Socialist European trash countries are hard at work trying
> to shutdown Americas freedoms.
Yea, right, European countries control this country, not our
controlling them, right bitch? Ask Condii RIICE.
monkeywintest
The druuuuddge only seeks to be anti-liberal. It's worthless in
American politics, especially for the right. Aside from that you
freaks constant talk shit about liberal organizations like the ACLU
who have always fought for freedoms. You are about the only right
winger I have ever seen who even has a remote understanding of what
'true' freedoms and liberties are. But then, you only use these as an
anti-liberal attack method.
Join some liberal pro freedoms groups like the EFF ACLU etc.
Mike Smith
>On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:47:59 -0600, Bob Hammer <B...@hammer.org> wrote:
>
>>> The rightards only want no regulations because regulations protect
>>> consumers and workers and prevents big business from enforcing its own
>>> brand of capitalism.
>>
>>How does business "enforce" anything?
>
>After the days of FDR---the government stopped enforcing Business
>"laws" (like shooting striking miners), and that seemed to piss a lot
>of conservatives off.
>
>But to answer your question----the ability of business/corporations
>and special interests to deliver (literally) billions into politicians
>pockets---IS a way of enforcing what they want.
>
>>> Regulation isn't a dirty word. People need freedom and corporations
>>> need rules.
>>
>>That's why the number of felonies increases every year.
>
>The number of business felonies doesn't get bigger---the ability to
>subvert the system after GOP deregulation became MASSIVE.
>
>Bernie Madoff existed because of what the GOP did to financial
>regulation
>
>The Housing bubble happened because of GOP deregulation and failure of
>oversight.
You could not be any dumber if you tried. In fact, anyone believing
the exact opposite of what you post would be a lot closer to the
truth.
It is extremely easy to find out that Franks and Dodd stopped
legislation that would have prevented or seriously reduced the effects
of the housing bubble and the bubble was there because the democrats
believed everyone should get a house, no matter how poor they are, so
they adjusted the housing market financing to favor "big business"
making loans to people that were not qualified, giving "big business"
special government benefits to give money away to the democrat
constituents (the poor).
Mike Smith
Mike Smith
>On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:54:36 -0500, "DogDiesel" <nos...@nospam.none>
>wrote:
>
>>And the federal governmentr needs to stop spending and be downsized 50%.
>
>So---your plan is to starve cities, states, counties and people by
>cutting back on services?
>
>How fucking conservative of you.
Please explain your mindless statement, specifically:
How would cutting back on federal services starve cities, states
and/or counties? Be as specific as your little brain will allow you to
be, Gary Roselles.
Mike Smith
DogDiesel
"Bob Hammer" <B...@hammer.org> wrote in message
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No, felonies increase for minorities. Like this one. Who dont have to
follow Ameicas laws.,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DddHsPOHFC4&feature=related
DogDiesel
<Yoor...@Jurgis.net> wrote in message
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>>> consumers and workers and prevents big business from enforcing its own
>>> brand of capitalism.
>>
>>How does business "enforce" anything?
>
> "laws" (like shooting striking miners), and that seemed to piss a lot
> of conservatives off.
>
> But to answer your question----the ability of business/corporations
> and special interests to deliver (literally) billions into politicians
> pockets---IS a way of enforcing what they want.
>
>>> need rules.
>>
>>That's why the number of felonies increases every year.
>
> subvert the system after GOP deregulation became MASSIVE.
>
> Bernie Madoff existed because of what the GOP did to financial
> regulation
>
> The Housing bubble happened because of GOP deregulation and failure of
> oversight.
>
The housing bubble happened. like the other 8 times this exact same thing
happened. Since he countery was created. Because the government used
inflation to artificially raise prices. So it can spend . So people would
indebt themselves to buy one. Like everything else the gubment artificially
creates. It failed. And rightly so,.
Too bad you dimwits gave the banks the bailouts and let them reposses the
houses too.
DogDiesel
<Yoor...@Jurgis.net> wrote in message
news:af70h6pqtd8nne1di...@4ax.com...
> nothing more than comic relief
>
> idiocy that prevailed just prior to the collapse of the american
> economy in 1929.
>
> Without government siding with people, the corporate, wealth, and
> business classes were committing horrible social ills.
>
>
The only Social ills are created by the government, For spending . You
like that gubment mandated welfare poverty . That's taken the minorities
and Social rejects down the shitter since welfare was created. Do Ya ?
Dimwit.
default
wrote:
>
><default> wrote in message
>news:mdlvg69dbnog3iges...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 13:33:40 -0800 (PST), Tracey12
>> <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>The day is coming when after Washington regulates every possible thing
>>>that you can do, you will be allowed to go to work and come home, but
>>>anything else will violate the law and likely result in a felony
>>>charge.
>>>
>>>The day will come, unless we stop this administration from regulating
>>>everything, when you will have to be "approved" to use the Internet by
>>>government.
>>
>> Yup. The BP oil spill comes to mind as a good excuse to stop
>> regulating industry, coal mines another. We already know how bad it
>> is for banks to be regulated...
>>
>> The rightards only want no regulations because regulations protect
>> consumers and workers and prevents big business from enforcing its own
>> brand of capitalism.
>>
>> Regulation isn't a dirty word. People need freedom and corporations
>> need rules.
>
>And the federal governmentr needs to stop spending and be downsized 50%.
>
Agreed - it isn't like the banks give consumers any breaks when it
comes to credit spending. Why should a government be any different?
Stop earmarks
>And Americans need a Gold standard.
Americans need some currency standard that the government can't monkey
with. They have this idea that inflation is good and necessary to
drive the economy (or drive the economy into over drive).
Gold? Is just another metal, making it sacrosanct is asking for other
problems. How about an index of several metals, gold, platinum,
silver, copper, palladium, etc.? OR how about inflation as a standard
for how tight money should be (without the fed and politicians getting
their grubby paws and playing with the arithmetic)
>
>The Federal reserve needs to stop financing the debt.
Roger. Just abolish the fed.
>And congress needs to stop spending it. .
>
>Before China creates their own gold standard. and the dollar goes Kaput .
China doesn't need a gold standard, they could control the US economy
now.
>
>Obama signed the bill of rights away in February. By resigning the Patriot
>act.
>
Agreed. He's no patriot - but then there's only two or three
politicians who are (or may be).
>Obviously hes not about freedom.
The problem is endemic. Washington needs to be told in no uncertain
terms who they really work for.
>
>And 45,000 manufacturing "Corporations" left the country since 2001.
>
More like their plants, factories, and bank accounts moved off shore -
they still have their offices here and their fat cats.
Make money selling to the US and you pay taxes on that money - no
matter where your bank or factory resides. Do away with so called
"free trade." Have a bias that keeps jobs in the US. Value Added (a
misnomer if ever there was one) style taxes on goods that cross the
borders.
>The worthless dollar is the problem.
>
>Not Corporations.
It is when the Corporations that moved offshore to make higher profits
finance the politicians directly or indirectly.
>
>The fact is the Socialist European trash countries are hard at work trying
>to shutdown Americas freedoms.
>our businesses and rights to ownership.
>
Scum sucking politicians don't recognize borders. Follow the European
Union, World Bank, G2 summits, etc.. There is already a global
government.
default
>In article <mdlvg69dbnog3iges...@4ax.com>, default wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 13:33:40 -0800 (PST), Tracey12
>> <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >The day is coming when after Washington regulates every possible thing
>> >that you can do, you will be allowed to go to work and come home, but
>> >anything else will violate the law and likely result in a felony
>> >charge.
>> >
>> >The day will come, unless we stop this administration from regulating
>> >everything, when you will have to be "approved" to use the Internet by
>> >government.
>>
>> Yup. The BP oil spill comes to mind as a good excuse to stop
>> regulating industry, coal mines another. We already know how bad it
>> is for banks to be regulated...
>>
>> The rightards only want no regulations because regulations protect
>> consumers and workers and prevents big business from enforcing its own
>> brand of capitalism.
>
>How does business "enforce" anything?
>
Buy finance and control politicians.
>
>> Regulation isn't a dirty word. People need freedom and corporations
>> need rules.
>
>That's why the number of felonies increases every year.
>
I wasn't advocating for crime - just the so called victimless crimes -
the ones that owe their existence to social agendas.
>For freedom.
Don't confuse freedom with security. People are too willing to throw
away freedom because they are told it buys them security. Better a
terrorist or two then a totalitarian government employing terrorism.
default
>On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:54:36 -0500, "DogDiesel" <nos...@nospam.none>
>wrote:
>
>>And the federal governmentr needs to stop spending and be downsized 50%.
>
>So---your plan is to starve cities, states, counties and people by
>cutting back on services?
>
>How fucking conservative of you.
If you can't see the waste in government you must think Media presents
the truth too?
The Bridge to nowhere ring a bell? Every industry has its lobbying
group expecting the government to finance their advertising, research,
and trade agreements. How much of research is done with grants
financed by government only to have the eventual profits controlled by
one or two companies with patent protections?
Lee Curtis
How is that different from the Bush administration jailing a
writer for book she had not even written yet?
Author passes 100-day mark behind bars
Oct 29, 2001
As journalist Vanessa Leggett marks more than 100 days in a federal
prison, her attorney plans to ask a court this week to free her on bond
while her appeal proceeds.
It will be the fourth time that attorney Mike DeGeurin has asked
federal courts to set bond for Leggett, who has been held in the
Federal Detention Center in Houston since July 20 for refusing to
disclose confidential information to a federal grand jury. A subpoena
sought four years of research for a book Leggett planned to write about
the murder-for-hire of a Texas socialite.
The federal district court judge that ordered Leggett to jail for
contempt refused to set bond this summer. A three-judge panel of the
U.S. Court of Appeals in Houston (5th Cir.) and the entire appellate
court also have refused Leggett's requests for bond, DeGeurin said.
Lee Curtis
>
> <default> wrote in message
> news:mdlvg69dbnog3iges...@4ax.com...
> > On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 13:33:40 -0800 (PST), Tracey12
> ><tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The day is coming when after Washington regulates every possible
> > > thing that you can do, you will be allowed to go to work and come
> > > home, but anything else will violate the law and likely result in
> > > a felony charge.
> > >
> > > The day will come, unless we stop this administration from
> > > regulating everything, when you will have to be "approved" to use
> > > the Internet by government.
> >
> > Yup. The BP oil spill comes to mind as a good excuse to stop
> > regulating industry, coal mines another. We already know how bad it
> > is for banks to be regulated...
> >
> > The rightards only want no regulations because regulations protect
> > consumers and workers and prevents big business from enforcing its
> > own brand of capitalism.
> >
> > Regulation isn't a dirty word. People need freedom and corporations
> > need rules.
>
> And the federal governmentr needs to stop spending and be downsized
> 50%.
But just try closing one military base to save money and watch the
"fiscal conservatives" howl.
Bob Hammer
Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:47:59 -0600, Bob Hammer <B...@hammer.org> wrote:
>
> >> The rightards only want no regulations because regulations protect
> >> consumers and workers and prevents big business from enforcing its own
> >> brand of capitalism.
> >
> >How does business "enforce" anything?
>
> After the days of FDR---the government stopped enforcing Business
> "laws" (like shooting striking miners), and that seemed to piss a lot
> of conservatives off.
>
> But to answer your question----the ability of business/corporations
> and special interests to deliver (literally) billions into politicians
> pockets---IS a way of enforcing what they want.
Yes, that's common in all forms of governance. It's magnified in a
capitalist system simply because we have so much damn money.
Beats the hell out of choice #2.
> >> Regulation isn't a dirty word. People need freedom and corporations
> >> need rules.
> >
> >That's why the number of felonies increases every year.
>
> The number of business felonies doesn't get bigger---the ability to
> subvert the system after GOP deregulation became MASSIVE.
Ah, and which deregulation was that?
> Bernie Madoff existed because of what the GOP did to financial
> regulation
They deregulated Ponzi schemes?
> The Housing bubble happened because of GOP deregulation and failure of
> oversight.
You likely mean the Financial Services Act, supported and signed into
law by Bill Clinton, after passing both houses of congress, which oddly
included Democrats.
OTPH, during Bush's deregulatory frenzy (which oddly resulted in LOTS of
new regulations), he targeted Fanny & Freddy early and often.
He was assured by a democrat, Barney Frank, that they were sound, and
Bush was accused of racism.
Of course we know now that Mr(?) Frank was lying. He's a Democrat, by
the way.
Now tell me, how did the GOP do all this again?
Mike Smith
>On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 04:53:42 -0600, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
>
>>>The Housing bubble happened because of GOP deregulation and failure of
>>>oversight.
>>
>>You could not be any dumber if you tried. In fact, anyone believing
>>the exact opposite of what you post would be a lot closer to the
>>truth.
>>
>> It is extremely easy to find out that Franks and Dodd stopped
>> legislation that would have prevented or seriously reduced the effects
>> of the housing bubble and the bubble was there because the democrats
>> believed everyone should get a house, no matter how poor they are, so
>> they adjusted the housing market financing to favor "big business"
>> making loans to people that were not qualified, giving "big business"
>> special government benefits to give money away to the democrat
>> constituents (the poor).
>
>THen again, I'm not rebutting the truth with faux snooze propaganda
>like you just did
I didn't think you could even begin to start backing up your mindless
garbage.
Mike Smith
Tracey12
> <Yoorg...@Jurgis.net> wrote in message
>
> news:af70h6pqtd8nne1di...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:50:23 -0600, Bob Hammer <B...@hammer.org> wrote:
>
> >> Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
> >>> On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 13:33:40 -0800 (PST), Tracey12
> >>> <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> >The day is coming when after Washington regulates every possible thing
> >>> >that you can do, you will be allowed to go to work and come home, but
> >>> >anything else will violate the law and likely result in a felony
> >>> >charge.
>
> >>> Especially for dingbat mad-teawhackoffs pushing idiotic crap like you
> >>> do.
>
> >>What if government passes laws to restrict Tracey from posting stuff
> >>that upsets you, then a Republican administration comes in and goes
> >>after your statist ilk?
>
> > a) I'd be pissed if a dumb fuckwit like tracy can't post---he's
> > nothing more than comic relief
>
> > b) I'll refer you to the loonytarian system of economic and political
> > idiocy that prevailed just prior to the collapse of the american
> > economy in 1929.
>
> > Without government siding with people, the corporate, wealth, and
> > business classes were committing horrible social ills.
>
> The only Social ills are created by the government, For spending . You
> like that gubment mandated welfare poverty . That's taken the minorities
> and Social rejects down the shitter since welfare was created. Do Ya ?
> Dimwit.
Thats the whole idea. Get them addicted to welfare, then when its
time to vote, they are not going to vote against the party that feeds
them. Blacks vote 90 pct democrat in presidential elections every
time.
Tracey12
Now thats saying something!
Yes, its much better to have occasional problems that you have to deal
with vs. having a nanny state authoritarian government that both
protects you while robbing you of liberty.
• R. L. Measures.
<B...@hammer.org> wrote:
>In article <v770h6hff3hg0rk26...@4ax.com>,
> Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:47:59 -0600, Bob Hammer <B...@hammer.org> wrote:
>>
>> >> The rightards only want no regulations because regulations protect
>> >> consumers and workers and prevents big business from enforcing its own
>> >> brand of capitalism.
>> >
>> >How does business "enforce" anything?
>>
>> After the days of FDR---the government stopped enforcing Business
>> "laws" (like shooting striking miners), and that seemed to piss a lot
>> of conservatives off.
>>
>> But to answer your question----the ability of business/corporations
>> and special interests to deliver (literally) billions into politicians
>> pockets---IS a way of enforcing what they want.
>
>Yes, that's common in all forms of governance. It's magnified in a
>capitalist system simply because we have so much damn money.
>
>Beats the hell out of choice #2.
>
>> >> Regulation isn't a dirty word. People need freedom and corporations
>> >> need rules.
>> >
>> >That's why the number of felonies increases every year.
>>
>> The number of business felonies doesn't get bigger---the ability to
>> subvert the system after GOP deregulation became MASSIVE.
>
>Ah, and which deregulation was that?
>
• allowing derivatives and credit default swaps.
--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
Bob Hammer
So that is the MASSIVE deregulation?
Would this deregulation have caused the current problems if the subprime
market was not as it were?
� R. L. Measures.
<B...@hammer.org> wrote:
� Trying to prevent an encore Great Depression was the reason such
instruments were originally made unlawful.
>
>Would this deregulation have caused the current problems if the subprime
>market was not as it were?
� I don't know for sure.