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Aris Alexis

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Feb 3, 2015, 9:17:38 AM2/3/15
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Great news for the product and your team, congrats.

I want to ask if a Titan implementation will be available as open source with free license or it will only be included in the cassandra enterprise edition.

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Doug Schaefer

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Feb 3, 2015, 9:27:47 AM2/3/15
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That's the million dollar question. I didn't see a clear statement about that in any of the news releases and blogs.

I was about to dive in and try Titan on a project and am wondering how this news impacts the availability of Titan going forward.

It's great to see, though. We love Cassandra too and hopefully this will be a big boost for interest in graph database technology.

Andrew Fitzgerald

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Feb 3, 2015, 9:54:51 AM2/3/15
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Aris Alexis

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Feb 3, 2015, 10:35:03 AM2/3/15
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Thanks for the link but it is still unclear. Titan is not a stable product yet, who will be working on it if the main devs will be writing a new commercial product?
There was a milestone for a 1.0 release that would break compatibility. Will this be released? Continued? By whom?

I have spent many months writing my product with Titan just because I didn't like the policy of Neo4J , I hope I didn't make such a big blunder.


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Aris Alexis

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Feb 3, 2015, 10:41:34 AM2/3/15
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Yes I did make a huge blunder.

Nikolas Everett

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Feb 3, 2015, 10:45:32 AM2/3/15
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It looks like I'm right there with you.

Nik

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Bhargav Raut

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Feb 3, 2015, 4:06:54 PM2/3/15
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Is there any clarity on this point? Does Titan die, now that the main devs dont have the time to develop it further? Is this g.shutdown()?

Bhargav.


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Sheshadri Mantha

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Feb 3, 2015, 11:22:38 PM2/3/15
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Any chance of putting Titan as apache incubator ??

Aris Alexis

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Feb 4, 2015, 3:37:39 AM2/4/15
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Not even that. They pulled the plug without a stable product, no prior notice and not caring about the companies that used a buggy system that broke compatibility every time just because a version 1.0 was promised.

reboot now

Bhargav Raut

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Feb 4, 2015, 3:54:33 AM2/4/15
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I spent 4 months building my app around titan , this is fatal.

Aris Alexis

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Feb 4, 2015, 4:17:32 AM2/4/15
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Neo4J supports blueprints so I think we can make a reasonable change in the codebase and keep our projects alive..

Willem Salembier

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Feb 4, 2015, 6:34:13 AM2/4/15
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Still, for closed-sources projects, there is an important impact on licensing. Titan was Apache 2.0, Neo4j Community is GPL, Neo4j Enterprise AGPL.

I wonder when OrienDB will get TinkerPop3 support. OrientDB has an Apache 2.0 license just like Titan.

Doug Schaefer

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Feb 4, 2015, 10:13:02 AM2/4/15
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On Wednesday, 4 February 2015 06:34:13 UTC-5, Willem Salembier wrote:
Still, for closed-sources projects, there is an important impact on licensing. Titan was Apache 2.0, Neo4j Community is GPL, Neo4j Enterprise AGPL.

Yes, the licensing behind Neo4j is pretty rough. I don't mind spending money on support, but I don't want to be forced to if I don't need it. And I don't mind contributing fixes or little features back if it makes my life easier and helps grow the community. That's something of value I can give back as well. But GPLed libraries is a non starter.


I wonder when OrienDB will get TinkerPop3 support. OrientDB has an Apache 2.0 license just like Titan.

I think I'll wait until the dust settles. TinkerPop3 isn't even released yet. And I'd rather be using Cassandra for other reasons so I'm just giving up on graphs for now. Hopefully DataStax will see the light and keep the same business model they have with Cassandra.

Dmitry Minkovsky

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Feb 4, 2015, 11:04:50 PM2/4/15
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Wow this is brutally painful. :( 

Matthias Broecheler

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Feb 6, 2015, 8:42:55 PM2/6/15
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I didn't want to respond to each thread individually, so I created a new one to summarize:


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