Hi Everyone.
More people are using the ADSB external devices and while I am not in favor of using them, as more questions are coming up I decided to create a post that should help setting it up.
Post here if you have any suggestions and or find something in error.
Thank you. TV
Below there is a textual description, and the pic has text and visual description.
About Stratux, in particular, there seem to be multiple
variations of hardware being used, different versions of PI boards, some have
WiFi built in, like the PI 3 B, some use the dongle.
Make sure that you get the latest code for the particular version board that
you have. CYoung? and there may be others that contributed their efforts
to provide the Free software are doing their best to keep the code updated / in
sync with the latest hardware versions.
I will try to do my best to describe the PI 3 B that has a built in WiFi, this
will work for other versions if you have the WiFi dongle.
If you have a device that is assembled, you must:
1-In your Tablet / receiving device, make sure WiFi is ON.
2-Start your Stratux and wait until your device is booted up, Green LED starts
to blink, or about 1min.
3-In your Tablet, Connections>WiFi, make sure that you see Stratux and
get it Connected, Do Not proceed beyond this point unless you have that
satisfied. Note: If you are close to another WiFi source / Modem etc. you may
not see the Startux, move to a different location.
4-Start Avare, enable GPS and confirm that you do not see the " No
GPS Signal", you can also verify at least 3 Green Satellites in Tools.
5-In Menu Preferences Weather>Use ADSB Weather selected.
6-Create a Flight Plan in the area, may not be needed.
7-Send Avare to background, do not exit, Home key.
8-Sart Avare IO, version 4.0.2 or later.
9-From the top Down arrow, select WiFi, verify that port 4000 is entered, and
select Listen. At this point you should see data streaming below, if not go
back and verify WiFi still connected... I observed many WiFi connections drop
offs when near other sources.
10-Restart Avare and be patient, you may not see any Wx, unless you are in the
vicinity of transmitting stations on the ground, but should work above 3000
Ft., and if you are close to the airport you should see some traffic,Blue dots.
I haven't tried Stratux, nor used I/O on my VZW S7. That said, in S7
I'm learning a lot from this discussion.
From the FAQ (https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/programs/adsb/faq/):
What are FAA ADS-B In broadcast services?
Aviation Routine Weather Reports (METARs)
Non-Routine Aviation Weather Reports (SPECIs)
Terminal Area Forecasts (TAFs) and their amendments
NEXRAD (regional and CONUS) precipitation maps
Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) Distant and Flight Data Center
Airmen's Meteorological Conditions (AIRMET)
Significant Meteorological Conditions (SIGMET) and Convective
SIGMET
Status of Special Use Airspace (SUA)
Temporary Flight Restrictions (TFRs)
Winds and Temperatures Aloft
Pilot Reports (PIREPS)
I'm not currently sure the status of receiving all these in
Avare... I flew my stratux box (first times) for just under 5
hours last week. I got recall seeing TAFs, winds, and pireps. I
didn't get any NEXRAD (despite having plenty of nearby precip).
I'm equipped with ADSB-out, but they don't broadcast to you unless
you have ADBS-in. As there aren't many birds in the air in my
region, I don't get to piggy back too often.
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By the way, ADSB also includes traffic (TIS-B) which is not available through an Internet source.
Okay, TV, we understand you are against ADSB for in cockpit data for some reason but you are in an increasing minority as pilots become more educated and experienced with ADSB. It is simply wrong to rely only on Internet info acquired before a flight and to ignore a perfectly useful - and accurate - data source during the flight. Pilots should avail themselves to ALL available information for safety reasons.
By the way, ADSB also includes traffic (TIS-B) which is not available through an Internet source.
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Here is my experience. I get weather and TFR briefings before the flight, usually through the 1800wxbrief website and will do an Avare internet download if WiFi is available. Then when I'm in the air I switch to adsb weather and traffic to supplement the info I already have. However in adsb mode, Avare does not display the borders of the TFRs that were downloaded on the ground.
In my situation, it would be nice if we could either 1) View the TFRs that are being transmitted through adsb or 2) Allow the internet downloaded TFR data to be displayed in adsb mode (consider decoupling it from the weather expiration time clock?). I think either of those options provides better info to me than relying on my memory alone, especially when operating near a complex shaped presidential TFR like we currently see near NY/NJ.
- Christine
I don't think TV sounds against ADSB. It's just not reliable in my experience and that's why I think he is saying. I myself rarely use it because I am not sure if I will get anything at a particular time.
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But the fraction you see is more than not using it at all for traffic. Isn't it better to have more data about traffic as long as you understand it may not be complete? My experience is that weather is close to 100% reliable and traffic depends on how many "out" aircraft are nearby. I would still rather see the partial picture than none.
To All
I assembled many Stratux and all of my customers are very happy. None of them use AVARE. I use AVARE for approach practice as it is faster to change plates than my iFLYGPS. I can tell you with certainty that the Stratux works perfectly on iFLYGPS. All FIS-B functions work perfectly. BUT TIS-B cannot be relied on until the 2020 mandate. For now the only traffic you will see directly is from planes that are 1090ES equipped and then only if you are running dual radios. If you are flying in an ATC radar veil you will see the traffic ATC sees. ATC sends the radar tracking information to the ground station and re-transmits it to any ADS-B receiver so the information is delayed by a few seconds.
Have you ever wondered why you see traffic and then it just disappears? It is because the plane dropped below radar altitude or simply is out of range.
ADS-B is mature. It works. But you cannot count on FIS-B until 2020. For you guys flying around with your Stratux guess what. If you are not flying in a radar environment NO one can see you and you can’t see them.
In 2020 everyone will be flying ADS-B out. Everyone will see everyone. But for now we will only directly ‘see’ planes with ADS-B out or 1090ES.
With your single radio Stratux you can see
Planes with ADS-B out
Planes being tracked by ATC radar
With your dual radio Stratux you can see Planes with 1090ES as they transmit directly to you.
I do not use AVARE enroute so I can’t speak about the helper plug-but I can tell you with certainty FIS-B works perfectly iFLYGPS. I have over 200 hours with my Stratux and I am totally confident in the information is receives.
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If you are flying in an ATC radar veil you will see the traffic ATC sees. ATC sends the radar tracking information to the ground station and re-transmits it to any ADS-B receiver so the information is delayed by a few seconds.
I'm also under the Boston mode C veil (based at 1B9) and I can't remember a time when I've seen NO traffic displayed around here. For sure I don't see everything. For every aircraft I spot with my visual scan, I'd say 40% of those are not displayed in my iPad. I have 1 antenna on my raspberry pi and it's usually monitoring the 978 band. I do not have adsb out (yet).
Hi Everyone.
More people are using the ADSB external devices and while I am not in favor of using them, as more questions are coming up I decided to create a post that should help setting it up.
Post here if you have any suggestions and or find something in error.
Thank you. TV
Below there is a textual description, and the pic has text and visual description.
About Stratux, in particular, there seem to be multiple variations of hardware being used, different versions of PI boards, some have WiFi built in, like the PI 3 B, some use the dongle.
Make sure that you get the latest code for the particular version board that you have. CYoung? and there may be others that contributed their efforts to provide the Free software are doing their best to keep the code updated / in sync with the latest hardware versions.
I will try to do my best to describe the PI 3 B that has a built in WiFi, this will work for other versions if you have the WiFi dongle.
If you have a device that is assembled, you must:
1-In your Tablet / receiving device, make sure WiFi is ON.
2-Start your Stratux and wait until your device is booted up, Green LED starts to blink, or about 1min.
3-In your Tablet, Connections>WiFi, make sure that you see Stratux and get it Connected, Do Not proceed beyond this point unless you have that satisfied. Note: If you are close to another WiFi source / Modem etc. you may not see the Startux, move to a different location.
4-Start Avare, enable GPS and confirm that you do not see the " No GPS Signal", you can also verify at least 3 Green Satellites in Tools.
5-In Menu Preferences Weather>Use ADSB Weather selected.
6-Create a Flight Plan in the area, may not be needed.
7-Send Avare to background, do not exit, Home key.
8-Sart Avare IO, version 4.0.2 or later.
9-From the top Down arrow, select WiFi, verify that port 4000 is entered, and select Listen. At this point you should see data streaming below, if not go back and verify WiFi still connected... I observed many WiFi connections drop offs when near other sources.
10-Restart Avare and be patient, you may not see any Wx, unless you are in the vicinity of transmitting stations on the ground, but should work above 3000 Ft., and if you are close to the airport you should see some traffic,Blue dots.
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Hi Eubie and everyone.
The reason I, TV, bring up WiFi is because I tested the unit in an environment that had many Sources of WiFi and every time it stopped working, for an illogical reason, I found out the Stratus was replaced by other devices around / disconnected.
We get very few details from the users abut the problems they encounter and most of the the uncommon problems are related to unusual procedures during the setup and not the app itself.
To the point of having only one WiFi source inside the aircraft I would be cautious, I fly some birds that have multiple instruments that interface / communicate via WiFi.
As to the Stratux and ADS-B traffic in general, I do not support using it yet, at this stage it can be more of a problem than help, it can be be of some use for Wx.
As to the Stratux itself, Avare only provides a conduit, communication channel, for it, and it is Not an Avare group developed code, and we just provide as much help as we can for Avare users. The code in Avare for Stratux works very well and the only issues I was able to find is the users not following the proper procedure to set it up.
If Users would give more details on the Procedure they follow, step by step, we can more efficiently help. In most cases the problems are created when a user attempts to do something that is out of sequence and or they do not properly know how to use their own device. You can also do a Search here on the Forum, All the problems showing up lately, have been discussed, an solution found for them.
For better help, post details and pics. when you can. TV
On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 9:28:45 AM UTC-7, eub...@gmail.com wrote:I am wondering why TV keeps stating with multiple WiFi sources Stratux tends to disconnect. I have built many Stratux and tested them in an environment with three WiFi routers up and running. Never a disconnect. But the real rub is how can this be a problem in the plane? In the plane you are NOT going to "pickup" a WiFi signal period.
Anyway, try turning off the Smart Network Switch
On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 6:32:42 PM UTC-4, John Wiley wrote:I haven't tried Stratux, nor used I/O on my VZW S7. That said, in S7
Settings > Wi-Fi > Advanced (pull-down three dots at top-right) I have
"Smart network switch" turned off. This might help, given TV's idea
below. On other devices and Android versions this setting will of
course be in different places, and might not be available at all on some.
Seems to me that Google, OEMs (e.g. Samsung) and carriers (e.g. Verizon)
all want to know where we are and what we're doing at all times. They
also like to know where every wifi hotspot is, and to test them all
looking for open ones. So maybe the default settings for wifi are to
always scan everything, and switch to the strongest signal with an
internet connection. Anyway, I turn off everything possible and haven't
had problems with my home wifi. I also use Airplane Mode aloft and when
not wanting incoming calls (asleep, etc.). Every time Samsung has
pushed an update, I've needed to Disable more bloatware they've
installed and re-check settings they've turned back on. Doing all this
enables me to enjoy going a week or so on a battery charge. :)
TV:
> with multiple WiFi sources Stratux tends to disconnect
Eric:
>> S7 from Verizon does not want to latch in the the I/O
Is there a permission setting or another app that might interfere/prevent Wi-Fi data from getting to the IO app?
Thanks
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I was able to meet Christine today and check what was going on. I was able to find it a Stratux issue. My Stratux works fine with my phone (just tested again) but Christine's Stratux does not work with same phone.
There is no data flowing to port 4000. But Christine's Stratux works with one of her devices. Never seen a problem like that before but Stratux sometimes surprises me. I think reformatting SD card on it should help. Regardless it's not an Avare issue.
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-------- Original Message --------On Jul 21, 2017, 8:41 PM, Christine R < rhuba...@gmail.com> wrote:
The attempts last night were with a previous version of Avare. I have updated to Avare 7.7.1 and tried again today with the same results. I always hit a brick wall at step 9. When I click listen in the IO app, there is no data showing. I don't even see the 'low battery false' message I would normally expect to see. I am sure the WiFi is still connected when the app is minimized, and I can see traffic and weather data rolling in with the stratux manager app.
Is there a permission setting or another app that might interfere/prevent Wi-Fi data from getting to the IO app?
Thanks
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I'm no Raspberry Pi expert but I believe the red led light shows power and green shows that the board is accessing memory. The red light should be steady with proper power input. Flashing red suggests voltage is dropping below 4.6 volts. The Raspberry Pi is very sensitive to power supply. Could your problem be poor power supply?
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I ran Avare with Stratux and Pitot a few weeks ago. With the Avare current update.Nexrad and Metar appears when the adsb tower was transmitting FiS-B weather information, at times it does not transmit nexrad/metar if no change has taken place At least this is case for my flight
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I know this has come up before, I've searched the archives and tried everything suggested. I'm using an Android tablet (Nook HD 7) that has worked great with a Dual XGPS-150 via Bluetooth for navigation in Avare.
Now trying to make a Stratux work. I fire up the Stratux, connect the tablet to the Stratux wifi hotspot and open the Avare I/O app to wifi, port 4000, click on listen. Info starts streaming, red and green lights are solid (no voltage issue) on the Stratux. But within 3 to 5 minutes info stops, I get a "No GPS Signal" in Avare and info stops streaming in the Avare I/O app. If I disconnect then reconnect wifi on the tablet it all starts up again but soon stops. This has happened on the ground, in my car and in the air.
I suspected a wifi problem with the tablet but the same thing happens on my LG-3 phone. I'm using a Raspberry Pi 3 with built-in wifi, 2 NooElec Nano SDRs and VK-162 remote GPS. yesterday I updated the Stratux firmware to latest version, made no difference; reimaged the SD card once again, no change. I've also uninstalled & reinstalled/updated Avare and the I/O app.
Not sure what else to try. Bad wifi on Pi? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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I'm using a 2.4 amp battery and the red light on the Stratux never blinks, so I think I'm good there.
Hi Z.
I have an out.bin with the No Nexrad overlay problem that you requested. We had quite a few clouds and the Marine layer.
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