Necessitas alpha 3 release

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BogDan

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Oct 29, 2011, 2:52:35 PM10/29/11
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Hello everybody,

I know we are a little late to the party, but we'd like to say:
Happy birthday KDE !!!
Of course we couldn't come with empty hand, so we come with a gift:
the Necessitas alpha3 release !

Necessitas alpha3 release should be the last but one release, before
we'll ship first beta version. Why the beta release is so important
and why is delayed that much? The beta release will *GUARANTEE* the
API/ABI compatibility, meaning that an application which uses that
version will run without *any* change, on any further releases! It
also means you can target a billion devices using Qt, much sooner than
you expected :) Of course if the situation will require we reserve the
right to release additionally alpha releases, because going to beta is
a great responsibility we can't afford to screw it up. *IF* everything
goes right, we want to release the first beta SDK until the end of
this year !

Also don't forget that this release is focused mostly on features
completeness, the next releases will be focused mostly on stability,
so if your issue(s) is/are not yet fixed, please have a little more
patience (and understanding :) ).

Most of all, we need your help to make it happen, so please:
- help us to write documentations, FAQ, and to update and maintain
project web pages.
- help us to answer peoples questions on android-qt mailing list,
doing this you are helping us more than you can imagine.
- report any issues you find using http://code.google.com/p/android-lighthouse/issues/list,
or https://sourceforge.net/p/necessitas/tickets/
- help us to check and fix the opened issues.
- help us to implement the remaining features http://community.kde.org/Necessitas/TODO
, http://community.kde.org/Necessitas/Schedules/alpha4


Alpha 3 release brings you lots of exciting features, I'd like to talk
a little bit about two of them:
* OpenGL this is probably the most expected and exciting feature of
this release. Yes, is here ! We tried (and succeed) to give you a
seamless OpenGL support, even if we have different platform plugins to
handle raster and OpenGL drawings, you don't need to worry about it,
if your application will require OpenGL, we'll choose automatically
the right plugin for your application.
* Java redesign and Ministro II, this is a huge step forward for this
project, this work will give us freedom to change the platform plugin
as we wish without breaking any existing application. How it works ?
Your applications doesn't know anything about qt libs, platform
plugins and stuff like that, it only knows that it needs to connect to
Ministro service, pass some parameters to it and to wait for its
response, when the response comes it will have a list with .jar files
which your applications needs to load them at runtime and to
instantiate the startup class, this class will load Qt libs and your
application. Basically the old java part was moved to these .jar files
which will be provided by Ministro, Ministro will take care that
the .jar files and qt platform libs will always be compatible.

BE AWARE !!! Because your application needs other java sources, please
make sure you are removing the old ones (please remove android folder
from any existing project)!!!

I'd like to highlight the most important features:

Qt framework:
* OpenGL Support
* Java part redesign
* QAtomic implementation
* Seamless Android assets support
* Sync with upstream Qt 4.8.0-rc1

QtCreator:
* Prepare the package for android market publishing
* Sync with QtCreator 2.3.1

QtWebkit:
* Sync with QtWebkit 2.2.0
* It seems that the massive memory leak form 2.1.x was fixed.

QtMobility:
* Sync with Qt framework changes.

Necessitas SDK:
* Linaro toolchain based on gcc 4.6.x (it is experimental)
* Android-4+ (armv5 & raster only) SDK
* Android-5+ (armv5&armv7, raster&OpenGl) SDKs

Minitro:
* Can provide specific CPU extensions libraries, this feature allows
us to provide not only platform specific libs (armv5, armv6, armv7,
x86, etc.) but also libs for specific CPU extensions, e.g. if your CPU
supports VFP but the platform not (is the case of armv5) Ministro can
download libs for armv5 *WITH* VFP flags turn on, also if automatic
vectorization [1] will improve the speed will ship Qt libs compiled
*completely* with NEON, where devices CPU supports NEON instructions,
currently Qt detects at runtime if your CPU supports NEON and it uses
that extension only in a few drawing functions.
* Sync with Qt framework changes

For a complete change log please run the following command on every
repository:
$ git log n0.21..n0.3

The following people have contributed to this project:
== Code ==
* Thomas Senyk: OpenGL support, fixes
* Ray Donnelly: Linaro toolchain integration, NDK, gdb, Windows, and
Mac fixes and SDKs.
* Nuno Pinheiro: beautiful artwork for necessitas project (except the
SDK watermark).
* Robert Schuster, Christian Küster java redesign proof of concept,
Ministro code cleanup and fixes.
* Espen Riskedal: fixes (initial fonts fixes)
* Marius Bugge Monsen: cleanup the repo.
* Åke Svedin: initial DPI fix patch.
* all Nokia developers which worked to all qt projects !
* BogDan Vatra: Java redesign, QAtomic implementation, Android
assets, QDesktopServices, QtCreator Android market publishing,
QtCreator android plugin rework, Ministro, SDK for Linux, fixes.


== Localizations ==
* Lauri Laanmets: Estonian
* Joost Bloemen, Maarten Ditzel: Duch
* Alexander Wolf: Russian
* Nikos Gerontidis: Greek
* Samuel Gaist: French
* Andrius da Costa Ribas, Anselmo L.S. Melo: Brazilian
* Leonard Lee: Malay, Chinese (Simplified and Traditional)
* Thomas Senyk, Josua Dietze
* Ivan <ipan...@googlemail.com>: Indonesian
* Dejan Gojkovic: Serbian
* Maciej Kujalowicz: Polish
* Tomas <toma...@gmail.com >: Norwegian
* Taro <taro.d...@gmail.com >: Japanese
* Seyyed Razi Alavizadeh: Persian
* Roberto Luttino: Italian
* BogDan Vatra: Romanian

The SDKs installers can be downloaded from: https://sourceforge.net/projects/necessitas/files/
The new Ministro packages from: https://sourceforge.net/projects/ministro.necessitas.p/files/


Known issues:


Linux:
- None till this date.

Mac:
- Sadly we found a show stopper just before release and we delayed
the release a few days until we'll figure out what is wrong. We'll
come with a separate announcement when this platform will be ready.

Windows:
- You must select manually the application (projects->run->package
configurations->Run: <select the application >) Open [2] and search
for "Application Tab". A fix will be available next week.
- You can't create AVDs from within QtCreator.

I want to personally thank to all who answered other people
questions, to all how reported errors and made suggestions !


[1] http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.dht0002a/ch01s04s03.html
[2] http://sourceforge.net/p/necessitas/wiki/How to write Qt apps for
Android

Cheers,

BogDan.

BogDan Vatra

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Oct 29, 2011, 4:27:49 PM10/29/11
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I forget to mention that android-14 doesn't come with an AVD image, so
you need to use android package manager to download it.

Cheers,
BogDan.

2011/10/29 BogDan <taipan...@gmail.com>:

qtnext

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Oct 30, 2011, 7:53:00 AM10/30/11
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Good :) :)
the install is fine on windows ... no more trouble at install ...

Will there be an announcement on planetqt.org, planetkde.org, and qt blog ?


Le 29/10/2011 22:27, BogDan Vatra a �crit :

>> * Android-4+ (armv5& raster only) SDK


>> * Android-5+ (armv5&armv7, raster&OpenGl) SDKs
>>
>> Minitro:
>> * Can provide specific CPU extensions libraries, this feature allows
>> us to provide not only platform specific libs (armv5, armv6, armv7,
>> x86, etc.) but also libs for specific CPU extensions, e.g. if your CPU
>> supports VFP but the platform not (is the case of armv5) Ministro can
>> download libs for armv5 *WITH* VFP flags turn on, also if automatic
>> vectorization [1] will improve the speed will ship Qt libs compiled
>> *completely* with NEON, where devices CPU supports NEON instructions,
>> currently Qt detects at runtime if your CPU supports NEON and it uses
>> that extension only in a few drawing functions.
>> * Sync with Qt framework changes
>>
>> For a complete change log please run the following command on every
>> repository:
>> $ git log n0.21..n0.3
>>
>> The following people have contributed to this project:
>> == Code ==
>> * Thomas Senyk: OpenGL support, fixes
>> * Ray Donnelly: Linaro toolchain integration, NDK, gdb, Windows, and
>> Mac fixes and SDKs.
>> * Nuno Pinheiro: beautiful artwork for necessitas project (except the
>> SDK watermark).

>> * Robert Schuster, Christian K�ster java redesign proof of concept,


>> Ministro code cleanup and fixes.
>> * Espen Riskedal: fixes (initial fonts fixes)
>> * Marius Bugge Monsen: cleanup the repo.

>> * �ke Svedin: initial DPI fix patch.

BogDan Vatra

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Oct 30, 2011, 8:38:27 AM10/30/11
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Hi,

I sent the announcement also to kde-promo mailing list, in the end
we are KDE project. I don't have an account on planetqt.org,
planetkde.org, ot qt blog, so I don't know if will be announcements,
of course anybody is free to announce it anywhere !

I'm using only the project mailing lists, android-qt (this one) and
necessitas-devel
(https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/necessitas-devel).

Cheers,
BogDan.

2011/10/30 qtnext <qtn...@gmail.com>:


> Good :) :)
> the install is fine on windows ... no more trouble at install ...
>
> Will there be an announcement on planetqt.org, planetkde.org, and qt blog ?
>
>

>>>  * Robert Schuster, Christian Küster java redesign proof of concept,


>>> Ministro code cleanup and fixes.
>>>  * Espen Riskedal: fixes (initial fonts fixes)
>>>  * Marius Bugge Monsen: cleanup the repo.

>>>  * Åke Svedin: initial DPI fix patch.

BogDan Vatra

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Oct 30, 2011, 10:37:41 AM10/30/11
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More about assets support you'll find here:
http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Necessitas

Cheers,
BogDan.

enrico....@gmail.com

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Oct 30, 2011, 11:13:11 AM10/30/11
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Hi, thanks for the replay. I will not bore you, but in these dayhs we are traveling with bike and cat to Ibiza byboat, so I should concentrate mails ans questions when there is line and we have some hours of stop.

I keep you updated soon. Enrico

Sent from my Nokia phone

Tam Hanna

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Oct 30, 2011, 11:19:54 AM10/30/11
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Hello,
already posted it to my blogs:
http://tamss60.tamoggemon.com/2011/10/30/qt-for-android-alpha-3-out/
http://tamsandroid.tamoggemon.com/2011/10/qt-for-android-alpha-3-out/

Also: if you need a German translation, send me the files to my
business email adress!

All the best
Tam

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BogDan Vatra

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Nov 2, 2011, 1:55:41 AM11/2/11
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Thanks Tam !

We already have German translations.

Cheers,
BogDan.

Sent from my HTC Desire HD.

ngocketit

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Nov 2, 2011, 5:48:41 AM11/2/11
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This is really great news! I've been waiting for this for long time.
Btw, I am willing to do translation to Vietnamese. If you need help on
that, just drop me an email.

Br,
Phi

On Nov 2, 7:55 am, "BogDan Vatra" <taipanroma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Tam !
>
> We already have German translations.
>
> Cheers,
> BogDan.
>
> Sent from my HTC Desire HD.
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Tam Hanna" <tam.ha...@gmail.com>
> To: <andro...@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Necessitas alpha 3 release
> Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 17:19
>
> Hello,
> already posted it to my blogs:http://tamss60.tamoggemon.com/2011/10/30/qt-for-android-alpha-3-out/http://tamsandroid.tamoggemon.com/2011/10/qt-for-android-alpha-3-out/
>
> Also: if you need a German translation, send me the files to my
> business email adress!
>
> All the best
> Tam
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 10:27 PM, BogDan Vatra <taipanroma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I forget to mention that android-14 doesn't come with an AVD image, so
> > you need to use android package manager to download it.
>
> > Cheers,
> > BogDan.
>
> > 2011/10/29 BogDan <taipanroma...@gmail.com>:
> >> orhttps://sourceforge.net/p/necessitas/tickets/
> >>  - help us to check and fix the opened issues.
> >>  - help us to implement the remaining featureshttp://community.kde.org/Necessitas/TODO
> >> ,http://community.kde.org/Necessitas/Schedules/alpha4
> >>  * Ivan <ipansm...@googlemail.com>: Indonesian
> >>  * Dejan Gojkovic: Serbian
> >>  * Maciej Kujalowicz: Polish
> >>  * Tomas <tomas...@gmail.com >: Norwegian
> >>  * Taro <taro.deve...@gmail.com >: Japanese
> >>  * Seyyed Razi Alavizadeh: Persian
> >>  * Roberto Luttino: Italian
> >>  * BogDan Vatra: Romanian
>
> >> The SDKs installers can be downloaded from:https://sourceforge.net/projects/necessitas/files/
> >> The new Ministro packages from:https://sourceforge.net/projects/ministro.necessitas.p/files/
>
> >> Known issues:
>
> >> Linux:
> >>  - None till this date.
>
> >> Mac:
> >>  - Sadly we found a show stopper just before release and we delayed
> >> the release a few days until we'll figure out what is wrong. We'll
> >> come with a separate announcement when this platform will be ready.
>
> >> Windows:
> >>  - You must select manually the application (projects->run->package
> >> configurations->Run: <select the application >) Open [2] and search
> >> for "Application Tab". A fix will be available next week.
> >>  - You can't create AVDs from within QtCreator.
>
> >>  I want to personally thank to all who answered other people
> >> questions, to all how reported errors and made suggestions !
>
> >> [1]http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.dht0002a/...
> >> [2]http://sourceforge.net/p/necessitas/wiki/Howto write Qt apps for

EndSiv

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Nov 4, 2011, 12:13:09 PM11/4/11
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Hello BogDan,

The new release is great! congratulations!

But, I got a problem, my label's do not show more Pixmaps... I create
a project in Necessitas 0.21 and copy this to Necessitas 0.3 and that
doesn't display the image... Do you know why? There's another way to
do this?

Cheers,

EndSiv

On 2 nov, 07:48, ngocketit <ngocke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is really great news! I've been waiting for this for long time.
> Btw, I am willing to do translation to Vietnamese. If you need help on
> that, just drop me an email.
>
> Br,
> Phi
>
> On Nov 2, 7:55 am, "BogDan Vatra" <taipanroma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thanks Tam !
>
> > We already have German translations.
>
> > Cheers,
> > BogDan.
>
> > Sent from my HTC Desire HD.
>
> > ----- Reply message -----
> > From: "Tam Hanna" <tam.ha...@gmail.com>
> > To: <andro...@googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: Necessitas alpha 3 release
> > Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 17:19
>
> > Hello,
> > already posted it to my blogs:http://tamss60.tamoggemon.com/2011/10/30/qt-for-android-alpha-3-out/h...
> > >> [2]http://sourceforge.net/p/necessitas/wiki/Howtowrite Qt apps for

wim delvaux

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Nov 6, 2011, 7:16:53 AM11/6/11
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Is there a shared version of QtUiTools available or can anybody provide one ?

 

Thx

Stuart

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Nov 8, 2011, 6:58:52 AM11/8/11
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Excellent work on this. I wanted to check that Ministro II would work
on my device before I downloaded the whole Necessitas suite to port an
app I am working on.

My device (HTC Desire HD running Cyanogen Mod 7.1) is shown as not
compatible in the android market. I managed to sideload it and it
installed fine but how do I test it works. When I install the animated
tiles demo it tries to install Ministro I and does not use Ministro
II. Is there any Ministro II based demo apps on the market or an apk I
can download to ensure it works as expected? I do not want to download
the whole suite NDK, SDK, etc just to build a demo app. Can someone
please suplly an app for me to confirm that it is going to work on my
device.

I have had previous version of Ministro and the animated tiles demo
working on this phone so it should be possible.

Many thanks,

Stuart

Florian Apolloner

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Nov 9, 2011, 5:39:39 AM11/9/11
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Hi,

thx for the new Alpha looks great for now -- do you think there is any chance of getting the QtDesigner module (especially the QFormBuild class -- http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qformbuilder.html ) into the release?

Thx for this great work,
Florian

BogDan Vatra

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Nov 9, 2011, 12:52:09 PM11/9/11
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Salut Florian,

We ship Necessitas SDK with QtUiTools module (as a static library)
which does the same thing as QFormBuilder, check [1]. We don't have
any plans to ship QtDesigner module.

Cheers,
BogDan.

[1] http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/quiloader.html#details

2011/11/9 Florian Apolloner <f.apo...@gmail.com>:

Florian Apolloner

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Nov 9, 2011, 1:29:10 PM11/9/11
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Hi BogDan,

How could I miss that? Sry for the stupid question :/

Thx,
Florian
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